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What kind of people are we???
« on: Apr 19th, 2004, 11:09am » |
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I was wondering if any kind of offical study has ever been done on just what kind of people suffer from CH's.
I'm not just talking about the age/race/region thing.
I'm talking more about what kind of people we really are.
I know that we ALL have something in common just by the fact that we have all looked here for advice. There has to be some other common tie. We all probably have something else in common that is either causing the HA's or a common trait that is caused as a result of them.
I'd like to see any study that explores how many CH sufferers are.......
Left/Right handed
Musicians/Artists/Teachers/Etc..
Computer Geeks/Scientists/Cops/Fire Fighters/Etc..
Criminals/Nut Cases(My wife would put me here)/ADHD/ADD/Etc..
Pedophiles/Arsonists/Murderes/Etc..
How many have had traumatic experiences as a child???..Death of a loved one/Sexual abuse/Other physical abuse/Etc..
Get the picture???
I know that it would be asking a lot to get people to be totally honest about some of these things but it would be really interesting if to see the results of a very in depth study on this and see where I fit in.
If anybody knows of a good source to see this kind of info, could you please let me know?
If not, I know that there has to be at least one person here that does this kind of work (research/statistics) for a living. Put together a questionairre and post it here for everybody to see until we come up with what we consider a good set of data.
Have somebody do the numbers (A moderator here just for the sake of anonimity???) and post the results.
Just an idea.... I have these sometimes at precisely 1:44 A.M. when I have nothing better to do except beat my head against the wall.
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Re: What kind of people are we???
« Reply #1 on: Apr 19th, 2004, 11:56am » |
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Oh man, this topic will get the cluster snobs on the prowl. Over the years this question has been posted a lot.
I see you are new and I will be nice.
Especially about the right handed vs. left handed thing.
That question gets asked a lot and a lot of people grind thier teeth and tell you to read the archives. So, read the archives.
However, whether we are murderers, and arsonists, pedophiles, and such, thats a new one. I don't know any correlation between murders and CHs, but thats just me.
I started a fire in 4th grade and the fire trucks came. So maybe that is why I get them. I played with fireworks in junior high school too. But that was just a phase.
I don't know. This may start some funky postings.
In all seriousness. Read through some of the old threads in the archives. There does not seem to be many traits other than the 75% man thing (I believe). I also read that many cluster heads have some sort of grumpy face?? I am not sure.
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Re: What kind of people are we???
« Reply #2 on: Apr 19th, 2004, 12:09pm » |
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I want to apologize if anybody was offended by the Pedophile/Murderer/Arsonist part of my post. I admit that I started some fires when I was younger.
These were only included by me for the sake of including defferent traits that people may have. The more data you have in a study like this, the more precise your results can be.
I did say that this would be hard to analyze (Did I spell that right?) because people wouldn't want to talk about it and it's none of my business. That's why this would have to kept anonymous.
I have just done a lot of looking around and have found no studies that go into these areas. I think it would be interesting to see the results of this kind of a study.
BTW... I am new here and I will check the archives.
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Re: What kind of people are we???
« Reply #3 on: Apr 19th, 2004, 4:14pm » |
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Hey! I started a few fires as a kid too! Maybe we're on to something here!
Shit... I'm gonna be really pissed if that's why I have clusters! 
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Re: What kind of people are we???
« Reply #4 on: Apr 19th, 2004, 5:35pm » |
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There are a couple of surveys on links off the main message board that answer these kind of questions.
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Re: What kind of people are we???
« Reply #5 on: Apr 19th, 2004, 8:03pm » |
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As a newbie, don't EVER feel embarassed or whatever about posting. There are people who have posted 8000+ times on here. They understand.
Keep reading, and you'll get a good feel.
Feel well.
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Re: What kind of people are we???
« Reply #6 on: Apr 19th, 2004, 8:37pm » |
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Just as an fyi . . .as a former social worker (worked with at-risk-youth), and now, as a person who works with emotionally disturbed youth . . .children who light fires generally have a common issue even if they don't remember the issue conciously. Notice: the key word is generally.
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modification: fires that are not the random *oops*
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Re: What kind of people are we???
« Reply #7 on: Apr 19th, 2004, 9:13pm » |
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I was a total pyro!
We had a neighborhood pyro gang. We did the whole dog shit in a bag, ring the door bell thing. Then we got into Raid can-torches. Then we found an antique shop that sold fireworks to minors. In upstate NY where DOT class 3 fireworks are illegal. I remember as a 7th grader riding my bike 5 miles to this old store and asking all nervoulsy if the guy had any firecrackers. He moved a phonebook, and said, "I got some smokers!" He had smoke bombs, and bottle-rockets. We had to pay $0.15/bottle-rocket. That was 1985. We were getting just slightly ripped off.
We then found some kids whose parents didn't mind if they mail-ordered $900 worth of fireworks for themselves and all the neighborhood kids. That is when the fun began. Bottle rocket guns.
I like explosives. Rockets. I built Estes rockets. I also dismantled their engines. Saw one go ablaze in poor Billy Chergosky's face. Ah, the hair-burn. Oh, and M-80's. Had to go to Chinatown, NYC for that. That was serious. Had the whole f'n neighborhood rocking! Sure way to get cops to come.
I think Def Leppord said it best, "I'm a pyromaniac!"
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Re: What kind of people are we???
« Reply #8 on: Apr 19th, 2004, 11:37pm » |
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Re: What kind of people are we???
« Reply #9 on: Apr 20th, 2004, 9:28am » |
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I guess the main reason that I started this post in the first place is that I don't think I'ver ever met someone else who has cluster headaches and I'd like to just find out a little more about this group of people.
A lot of people I talk to claim that they get the worst headaches.
When I tell someone about the problems I'm having they always reply with 'Oh Yeah, I get migraines somtimes too. You just have to find a quiet place and lay still'. Is it OK to strangle people who say stuff like that???
Also: In all fairness to my first question here on this topic, here is who I am.
41 years old.
Left handed.
Musician-Self taught on guitar and drums 32 year vet.
Current work - Computer geek- maintain 450 computer systems for the County Library Hardware/Software/Security/Programming
1 very old felony record (1980)- B&E looking for cash to buy more beer. Have since learned to maintain when using alchohol.
Arsonist?-Used to catch the woods on fire, burn model cars, garbage cans, etc... (I think it's a little boy thing if you ask me.)
ADHD/ADD? I'm the poster child for adults with ADHD.
Traumatic experience - sexually abused at age 10
Hobbies/Likes? My wife and my 3 year old daughter, Music, Computers, Nascar racing, Church, Camping, Reading, Movies (Not neccesarily in that order.)
OK. That is who I am. If nobody else wants to divulge, that is fine. I just wanted to show that I would be willing to go with something like this. If I ever find a picture of me that doesn't scare small children, I may post it.
miapet.. Do I sound like one of your children?? Sexual abuse... fires???
Well... Thanks everybody for not flaming me when I asked an old question and helping me instead. It's time for me to get some work done.
Pat
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Re: What kind of people are we???
« Reply #10 on: Apr 20th, 2004, 9:47am » |
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One study found no psychological difference between clusterheads and other headache sufferers. That study also compared photographs of cluster/non-cluster faces, and found that the mid-face height tended to be different in clusterheads.
Another study comparing clusterheads to other headache sufferers found we have the largest percent of people that were abnormal, and the largest percent of people that were (apparently) psychologically balanced. (I think each group was 15 or 20% of the total).
Another study found that we are more anxiety prone and less socialized- ie, more loners, and rated high on the hostility index (no shit, professor!). No relationship between handedness and clusters found in this study.
A fourth study looked at the results of Jungian/Myers-Briggs personality and headaches. About 3/4 of men with clusters fell into the "sensing" category - this is almost identical to the personality profile of women with migraines. We got male migraines! Let the flames begin!! 
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Re: What kind of people are we???
« Reply #12 on: Apr 20th, 2004, 10:08am » |
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on Apr 20th, 2004, 10:03am, Bob P wrote:
Thanks Bob.
This is getting closer to what I was looking for.
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« Reply #13 on: Apr 20th, 2004, 10:24am » |
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According to Rock_Lobster this is me
on Apr 19th, 2004, 10:11pm, Rock_Lobster wrote:He is chock-full of fine qualities, ie:
Handsome (assuming that is him and not the milkman in his little icon)
Gentleman
Sharp Dresser
Porn Star
Shitload of Zomig stashed away
Can fix shit
His room at the convention is already paid for
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Re: What kind of people are we???
« Reply #14 on: Apr 20th, 2004, 10:52am » |
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Well, here's one music-loving, media-stydying, right-handed brunette, who loves sitcoms, has a gift of writing stuff of her own (novel lives in plans) and has been bullied in school by 3 different group of being short (I'm 4ft 11 at 24), had a difficoult relationship with my dominating mum and lost my father who was also a close friend at 17. That's my story.
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« Reply #15 on: Apr 20th, 2004, 11:44am » |
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Seriously, didn't some literature once say that cluster heads had a rough face or a chunky face, or a tough face or something like that? I thought I remembered reading that.
Me, I got one Fugly looking face.
I got hit with the ugly stick 50 times when I was born.
Plus, I have this total fear of sock puppets and clowns. Totally frightening.
-Scott
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Re: What kind of people are we???
« Reply #16 on: Apr 20th, 2004, 12:18pm » |
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My wife has told me on many occasions that I look like I'm pissed off about something.
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on Apr 20th, 2004, 12:18pm, ExplodingEyeBall wrote:| My wife has told me on many occasions that I look like I'm pissed off about something. |
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I always look like I'm ready to ripp someone's head off. lol
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« Reply #18 on: Apr 20th, 2004, 2:08pm » |
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I dunno Thomas......to me you always look like you had just finished ripping someone's head off. There is a difference ya know.
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Re: What kind of people are we???
« Reply #19 on: Apr 20th, 2004, 2:19pm » |
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on Apr 20th, 2004, 12:18pm, ExplodingEyeBall wrote:| My wife has told me on many occasions that I look like I'm pissed off about something. |
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EVERYBODY says that about me...
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Re: What kind of people are we???
« Reply #20 on: Apr 20th, 2004, 2:43pm » |
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You know... Looking like that comes in pretty handy sometimes when you find yourself in some undesirable situations.
People who may like to give other people a hard time have a tendancy to leave you alone if you look like your going to have them for a snack if they get in your way.
I think it helped stop us from getting jumped after a Bulls game one night.
I'm glad that some people don't realize that the dude that looks like he's pissed off is really a pretty nice guy and happens to be in a wonderful mood.
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Re: What kind of people are we???
« Reply #21 on: Apr 20th, 2004, 2:49pm » |
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OK.
Here's who I really am.
I am trying to insert a picture here and I don't have a clue if it will work.
I'm just a computer geek. I'm to to message boards and not familiar with how to do this.
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« Reply #22 on: Apr 20th, 2004, 3:02pm » |
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OK.
I'm officially embarrassed. I can't even link a picture into a message.
I'll find a way eventually.
In the mean time just think...Incredibely handsome, young looking, dark haired, Irish guy with a lot of charm and looks..... Who am I kidding? Think overweight, 40ish, Dark haired Irish guy with a head as big as a bowling ball.
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« Reply #23 on: Apr 20th, 2004, 3:12pm » |
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Hey I can't seem to get pictures to go in here either...
I had hoped to put one in my profile so at least a face can go with the name...no such luck...lol.
I think this is some conspiracy...lol.
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« Reply #24 on: Apr 20th, 2004, 3:34pm » |
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OK.
Maybe it will work this time.
If it doesn't, just go with the last description.
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