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Title: OUCH: Just Out Of Curiosity... Post by Frank_W on Apr 6th, 2005, 8:30pm Where are all of the members of OUCH lately, and what the hell is THIS all about? http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=dallas2005;action=display;num=1111865484;start=0 [smiley=huh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Just Out Of Curiosity... Post by don on Apr 6th, 2005, 8:33pm Non member for obvious reasons. |
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Title: Re: Just Out Of Curiosity... Post by Frank_W on Apr 6th, 2005, 8:55pm Well, I'm strongly re-thinking my membership at the moment. [smiley=huh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Just Out Of Curiosity... Post by Ree on Apr 6th, 2005, 8:56pm well I am a member and it became such a peyton place i dont even go in there anymore...... Frank they auction off items that people make or buy to contribute... they roast people at the conventions... I thought you went to a convention... I got http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3d903b3127cce9e05941ee21700000026108AaNXLdu4bs4at the NY convention and I think its a great likeness of Tim the turtlehttp://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3d611b3127cce9e05941a1d0e00000016108AaNXLdu4bs4 don't you??? Man I have a big ass in that picture....... |
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Title: Re: Just Out Of Curiosity... Post by Jonny on Apr 6th, 2005, 8:57pm Im a life time member ;;D |
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Title: Re: OUCH: Just Out Of Curiosity... Post by pubgirl on Apr 6th, 2005, 9:38pm Shit! That thread doesn't make for pleasant reading and there are some really worrying responses...... W the B |
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Title: Re: OUCH: Just Out Of Curiosity... Post by M.R. on Apr 6th, 2005, 10:10pm I do think I miss the old days more and more. We were still standing around pissing on each others feet, but at least we were all on the same side. And no Ree, I don't think your ass looks fat in that picture...... ;;D Mike (Still a member) |
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Title: Re: OUCH: Just Out Of Curiosity... Post by clarence on Apr 6th, 2005, 10:55pm on 04/06/05 at 21:38:32, pubgirl wrote:
As always, Wendy makes a good point. If I were not a member, that thread would make me think. Casey |
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Title: Re: OUCH: Just Out Of Curiosity... Post by PrettyH8Machine on Apr 7th, 2005, 2:15am :'( My head hurts too bad to try and make any sense of it all. I'm staying out of this one. Carl |
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Title: Re: OUCH: Just Out Of Curiosity... Post by Missy_Donna on Apr 7th, 2005, 7:36am Casey......thats exactly what the members SHOULD be doing......thinking....AND looking for answers. Thanks. |
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Title: Re: OUCH: Just Out Of Curiosity... Post by Bob P on Apr 7th, 2005, 9:57am Quote:
Shut the door in their face and they will leave. |
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Title: Re: OUCH: Just Out Of Curiosity... Post by Margi on Apr 7th, 2005, 10:24am on 04/07/05 at 09:57:29, Bob P wrote:
Not quietly, Bob. Some of them might go out in a blaze of glory. |
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Title: Re: OUCH: Just Out Of Curiosity... Post by lionsound on Apr 7th, 2005, 10:32am Okay folks…..here more than my two cents… it’s my professional opinion. I have volunteered my time for many non-profit organizations. I have been a PR consultant, run events, fundraisers, and alumni weekends. I currently played a pivotal role in launching a 2 million dollar endowment campaign, which came out of the box with over 1 million dollars already donated. I’ve dealt with my fair share of pee-on to millionaire egos, BoD’s and volunteers. And this is what I’ve found to be my experience. I am not taking any sides or criticizing anyone People, I don’t care who they are, people have some fundamental issues with change. It hard to digest even if it means good things are on their way. Sometimes that won’t be seen for a while. Here are a couple of things I’ve learned. 1. People like to know where there money is going. I don’t care if it’s the Rori Lockman Box-o-Paper Clips or the Frank Weeden Post-It Note….people need to know exactly where their $$ are going. 2. Communication is key. Even if it’s in disagreement. No two people are will approach the same issue the same way. If you know where each other stands, you can agree to disagree and then figure out a middle ground for the good of the organization. US and THEY mentality exists only if we allow it. Yes, I am a member of OUCH. And even if I don’t agree with everything they do, I know that I would have trouble offering constructive criticism if I were not a member. (I also have trouble with people that criticize our government and don’t vote) So for me canceling membership, though it would send a message, is not an option at this time. There are old times and new timers here according to some and I respect that. Still, the old timers need to understand that they were once newbies, albeit six years ago. And the new timers might find it very helpful if they called up the old folks for some advice. Organizations go through periods if waxing and waning…it’s just the nature of the beast. (yes, I know I said beast) People understandably take things to heart because they’ve poured their heart into it. Apple carts get overturned, and perhaps that is a good thing because with out that change will never happen. I think we all agree that the status quo is not what we want, especially in the area of communication. And from what I’ve read in the past few days OUCH has done some very good things that we need to recognize as well. I, for one appreciate the passion on both sides of the aisle. I just hope it doesn’t do in an organization I feel has a lot of potential. May you all be well and Pain Free, Rori L. Lockman (lionsound) |
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Title: Re: OUCH: Just Out Of Curiosity... Post by Frank_W on Apr 7th, 2005, 10:38am Well, it certainly does seem that the members don't matter anymore. No elections, no opportunity to give suggestions, people asking questions being treated like errant children, vague answers, all the secrecy... There's no longer any impetus to be involved, to "row," to donate, to volunteer, or to be a member. The most frustrating thing is that it just doesn't have to be this way. I feel like a fool for even caring enough to speak up. *sigh* Well said, Rori. The things you've pointed out are very much, the heart of the situation. |
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Title: Re: OUCH: Just Out Of Curiosity... Post by nani on Apr 7th, 2005, 10:44am Check the OUCH boards...there's some communication happening over there. Hmmm...funny....members have always had that forum to ask and get questions answered. |
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Title: Re: OUCH: Just Out Of Curiosity... Post by Margi on Apr 7th, 2005, 10:55am on 04/07/05 at 10:44:20, nani wrote:
and isn't it tragic that long-standing members have to make asses out of themselves here in order for that communication to finally happen? ::) Questions aren't being answered, Nani - we're being thrown bones. Good post, Rori - REALLY good post. OUCH needs more people like you. |
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Title: Re: OUCH: Just Out Of Curiosity... Post by sandie99 on Apr 7th, 2005, 11:11am on 04/07/05 at 02:15:23, PrettyH8Machine wrote:
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Title: Re: OUCH: Just Out Of Curiosity... Post by cootie on Apr 7th, 2005, 9:25pm Is that what is ment by the term 'clicky'........good gone bad Pam |
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Title: Re: OUCH: Just Out Of Curiosity... Post by Lizzie2 on Apr 7th, 2005, 9:52pm on 04/07/05 at 10:44:20, nani wrote:
No offense because you know I like you...but that's being blind to the situation. Much goes on that the membership at large (or even those who are nonmembers but still give of their time and money) has no idea about. When the BOD and officers are held accountable, WE get treated like we are ignorant children. Look where that auction thread went bad. Who started the childish behaviour? Really take a look. Just because some of us choose to question things and not act like lemmings off a cliff does NOT make us bad people. We care about the way things are being handled...and I think because some of us care so much...that's why tempers are flared. Carrie |
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