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(Message started by: thomas on Mar 9th, 2004, 12:54pm)

Title: Interesting post from archives......
Post by thomas on Mar 9th, 2004, 12:54pm
http://www.clusterheadaches.com/wwwboard/messages/6464.html

Title: Re: Interesting post from archives......
Post by ave on Mar 9th, 2004, 2:16pm
Yaeh, but never had herpes in my life....

Title: Re: Interesting post from archives......
Post by Prense on Mar 9th, 2004, 2:21pm

on 03/09/04 at 14:16:07, ave wrote:
Yaeh, but never had herpes in my life....


Not even chicken pox or a cold sore?

Title: Re: Interesting post from archives......
Post by Melissa on Mar 9th, 2004, 3:02pm
I wish there woulda been some more follow-up on that post. :-/

Title: Re: Interesting post from archives......
Post by thomas on Mar 9th, 2004, 3:09pm

on 03/09/04 at 15:02:24, Melissa wrote:
I wish there woulda been some more follow-up on that post. :-/

That is why I brought it back up.  I think this is an area that should be looked into a little deeper.  Before my first cycle I had some type of herpes simplex that affected the area between my 11th and 13 ribs.  The doctor said it was brought on by stress. :-/

Title: Re: Interesting post from archives......
Post by pubgirl on Mar 9th, 2004, 4:14pm
Thomas


Bizarre! I was drunkenly propounding the same theory at the weekend, because someone at our conference reminded me that I had "carefully" mentioned it last summer and I had forgotten about it since.

The problem is that no-one likes to admit having had contact with herpes because of the sexual connotation, but there are other types as mentioned, and even the sexuallly transmitted kind you can come into contact with and never know and get no symptoms.

Wonder how we would get an accurate assessment of CH sufferers without testing it?

W

P.S. I'm not ashamed to admit that after one smear I was told that I had come into contact with herpes at some point in my life, and I certainly never knew.

Title: Re: Interesting post from archives......
Post by Robert the....... on Mar 9th, 2004, 4:22pm
Good ol

Glandular Fever is a Herpes family Virus
As is a host of other throat infections.
It was straight of the back of a major viral infection similar to GF that CH was triggered in ME.

Scott  

Title: Re: Interesting post from archives......
Post by t_h_b on Mar 9th, 2004, 7:28pm

on 03/09/04 at 15:09:51, thomas wrote:
That is why I brought it back up.  I think this is an area that should be looked into a little deeper.  Before my first cycle I had some type of herpes simplex that affected the area between my 11th and 13 ribs.  The doctor said it was brought on by stress. :-/


Thomas, are you sure that wasn't herpes zoster virus?  It's the chicken pox virus.  It hides out in the nerve roots after you have chicken pox and causes shingles, which is often brought on by stress.  It frequently occurs on the trunk, usually on one side, and covers the skin area corresponding to the area served by the affected nerve.  It can also be very painful and you use topical capsaicin to treat it if it is.

Herpes Simplex Virus I & II cause fever blisters and genital herpes respectively, although they are very similar and you can have genital herpes caused by HSVI.  

You shed HSV and pass it on to others even when you're not having an outbreak.  (Please try not to think about that next time you're having oral sex. ;;D)

I get two out of the three.  Don't ask me which two and I won't tell.

There is a bit of research now into possible infectious cause of diseases that we don't think of as caused by an organism.  Think about stomach ulcers--the current treatment is antibiotics, not milk.

Thomas

Title: Re: Interesting post from archives......
Post by Melissa on Mar 9th, 2004, 9:18pm
well, I've had the chicken pox, does that count?

Title: Re: Interesting post from archives......
Post by jmorgan52 on Mar 10th, 2004, 2:57am
I had a series of bad illnesses for about 6 months sometime between the age of about 9 and 11. This included yellow jaundice, glandular fever, dysentery and much more. I also had some "cold sores" that took months to clear up at that time.

I had not even thought about this ilness for over 30 years. Reading this post triggered my memory. Is it even remotely possible that this could be the cause of my CH? I sometimes used to think that CH was a virus until I found this site a few years ago and was shot down for my thinking   :-/

John

Title: Re: Interesting post from archives......
Post by ave on Mar 10th, 2004, 6:36am
Oh yes, chicken pox and some cold sores, both before age 7 and never again.

I didn't get  clusters until in my fifties.

Bit of a long shot; besides so many people get chicken pox, and the rest  get inoculated with it!

They should all have clusters, or...

Title: Re: Interesting post from archives......
Post by Melissa on Mar 10th, 2004, 8:01am
who knows, perhaps the virus triggered something which set the clusters in motion?  I believe everyone has clusters (i feel the same way about cancer), but we all just don't have the same trigger to bring the disease to the surface.  JMO

Title: Re: Interesting post from archives......
Post by Prense on Mar 10th, 2004, 11:10am

on 03/10/04 at 06:36:18, ave wrote:
Oh yes, chicken pox and some cold sores, both before age 7 and never again.

I didn't get  clusters until in my fifties.

Bit of a long shot; besides so many people get chicken pox, and the rest  get inoculated with it!

They should all have clusters, or...


That's what I am thinking Ave.  However, there are many forms of herpes.

Chris

Title: Re: Interesting post from archives......
Post by vig on Mar 10th, 2004, 11:42am
I had shingles shortly before I started getting CH.
hmmm.

"What is Shingles?
Shingles is an infection caused by the varicella-zoster virus, which is the virus that causes chickenpox. Shingles occurs in people who have had chickenpox and represents a reactivation of the dormant varicella-zoster virus. The disease generally affects the elderly, although it occasionally occurs in younger and/or immunodeficient individuals. The first sign is usually a tingling feeling, itchiness, or stabbing pain on the skin. After a few days, a rash [editor removed the gross description of the rash... ]  ....within several days. When the rash is at its peak, symptoms can range from mild itching to extreme and intense pain.

So if you've had chicken pox, you are carrying this virus.
...Just waiting for shingles to rear it's ugly head.

Title: Re: Interesting post from archives......
Post by miapet on Mar 10th, 2004, 12:27pm
Shingles are the residual from chicken-pox.


Title: Re: Interesting post from archives......
Post by Tiannia on Mar 10th, 2004, 2:28pm
Had chicken pox at the age of 5, really bad case. Had a viral attack in college that was diagnosed as Bonet Syndrom (sp?) not sure if that was one of the many sypes of herpes that there are.  My father is a carrier of herpes simplex.  I go through cycles of cold sores. where i will get like 5 at a time and they will stay for about 2 weeks then go away for months at a time.  

Not sure, but worth a shot.  

Tiannia

Title: Re: Interesting post from archives......
Post by KarynG on Mar 11th, 2004, 10:40pm
I had shingles several times from the time I was about twenty- three until I was thirty (the first sunburn/tan of the season always triggered it for me), and I developed clusters at twenty-eight.  I don't know how a connection would fit in with the hippothalamus thing though; maybe shingles is just a fairly common condition.

As with most health questions, this is a sensitive topic and to really find out you would probably need a place people could respond anonymously.

Title: Re: Interesting post from archives......
Post by Jimmy_B on Mar 12th, 2004, 9:03am
Just to add..."and the maximum dose of Duract -A strong NSAID".

This drug "Duract"was withdawn from the market a few years ago, due to causing many problems.

Hopefully this writer is ok.

Jimmy



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