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(Message started by: LV on Oct 12^th, 2005, 4:38pm)

Title: Capsaicin constitutent of cayenne papper
Post by LV on Oct 12^th, 2005, 4:38pm

Hi

I am an episodic sufferer and currently in the cycle, has anyone tried

Capsaicin, a constituent of cayenne pepper which can reduce the levels of substance P in nerves
Substance P is a nerve chemical involved in pain transmission that may cause some of the symptoms of cluster headache

Many thanks
LV

Title: Re: Capsaicin constitutent of cayenne papper
Post by unsolved1 on Oct 12^th, 2005, 4:47pm

My neuro said it wouldn't help me any.

Goodluck

PF Wishes
UNsolved

Title: Re: Capsaicin constitutent of cayenne papper
Post by nani on Oct 12^th, 2005, 4:59pm

Hi LV...
here's what our learned member Floridian has to say about substance P (and capsaicin)
http://med-owl.com/clusterheadaches/tiki-index.php?page=Substance+P
pain free wishes, nani

Title: Re: Capsaicin constitutent of cayenne papper
Post by rextangle on Oct 12^th, 2005, 5:05pm

I've snorted cayenne pepper before as an abortive.
Don't recommend it... it's a jackass thing to do.
It hurts like a mofo and, sure it distracts the pain for a minute, but don't do it, unless you enjoy being maced.

However, using hot pepper in my daily food seems to clear up some nasty shadows...

Rex

Title: Re: Capsaicin constitutent of cayenne papper
Post by Jill on Oct 12^th, 2005, 6:33pm

on 10/12/05 at 17:05:53, rextangle wrote:

LOL - I am so glad that I am not the only one who has done this! Looking back now, I cant believe that I tried it but when the pain level is high enough... well... I will do anything - though somethings only once.

And I too dont recommend it, the pain of the pepper up the nose is bad - made the CH attack go through the roof!

Jill

Title: Re: Capsaicin constitutent of cayenne papper
Post by Mr. Happy on Oct 12^th, 2005, 7:21pm

Civamide is the purified cis isomer of capsaicin

4. Civamide clinical trials have closed out and the number crunching has begun. What they learned from the earlier trials with civamide is that it works most effectively in a prevention mode. It appears to work on a cumulative effect. The first week does not show much improvement, but by the time they get out to 20 days there is marked improvement. This may be something that can be used to abort a cycle, not just an attack. (http://www.clusterheadaches.org/conventions/2003/report.htm)

OUCH comvention report, 2003

Title: Re: Capsaicin constitutent of cayenne papper
Post by Jeepgun on Oct 13^th, 2005, 6:53am

Capsiacin massage oil makes a horrible "personal lubricant." It's a long, painful, embarrassing story, so I won't go into it. Just trust me on this one. :'( ;;D :( :o

Title: Re: Capsaicin constitutent of cayenne papper
Post by ExplodingEyeBall on Oct 13^th, 2005, 12:34pm

My diet consists of some of the spiciest foods that can be found. The level of capsaicin in my body is usually higher than what you would get to after using one of these treatments.

I don't think it helps me a bit when it comes to CH. I still get them when I'm in cycle.

Title: Re: Capsaicin constitutent of cayenne papper
Post by madprof on Oct 16^th, 2005, 12:48am

Having tried every last miracle cure over the last thirty four years, I was skeptical, to say the least, of Sinus Buster. Tried it nonetheless and can't assert for sure that it doesn't help. It clears up the sinuses instantly. It also got rid of some of my usual shadows. I have the impression - nothing more than an impression - that it reduces the severity of an attack. Not a cure, certainly, nor is it something I would do for fun. But I was surprised - it does something. You might want to try it once, see if it makes a difference for you.

Title: Re: Capsaicin constitutent of cayenne papper
Post by Dragonwynd on Oct 16^th, 2005, 9:52am

I myself have also snorted dried pepers of all sorts. As well as eatting very hot foods and pepers by themselves. But one thing that seems to help a little, not alot but a little is wasabi mustard. i love sushi so both go together. I know that if you put your head in a wood vise and beat it till you pass out has helpped me on many occasions....... :-/

Title: Re: Capsaicin constitutent of cayenne papper
Post by rextangle on Oct 16^th, 2005, 11:58am

Don't put wasabi IN THE NOSE, though...
You can never run fast enough to get away from that pain.
It truly really incredibly sucks... not for the faint of heart! :o

Title: Re: Capsaicin constitutent of cayenne papper
Post by ben_uk on Oct 18^th, 2005, 10:37am

From the current edition of New Scientist
Page 14.

Spice up your nights
If you want to sleep better, eat chillies. Not only will you sleep more deeply, but you will feel more alert the next day. Andrew Davies of the University of Tasmania in Launceston and his team placed 25 people on a diet containing 30 grams of chopped chilli a day for four weeks. On average, the volunteers went to bed 2 hours later and slept for 20 minutes less than in the previous four weeks, when their diet had been chilli-free. But they were also less active in their sleep and seemed to sleep more deeply, Davies told the Australasian Sleep Association conference held last week in Surfers Paradise, Queensland. The participants also reported feeling more alert the next day and were more physically active. The researchers have yet to pinpoint which ingredients in chilli are responsible.

:o

Title: Re: Capsaicin constitutent of cayenne papper
Post by rextangle on Oct 18^th, 2005, 1:15pm

Ben, I continue to eat hot peppers daily. In my case, I can't say that I sleep better. With CH, who does?

More alert? Don't think so...

But the title of that article should be
"SPICE UP YOUR MORNINGS!"

You know, that feeling of "HEAT" you get before your flush down what you ate the night before? ;)