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(Message started by: Lalady on Dec 27th, 2004, 3:46pm)

Title: Any Military Members?
Post by Lalady on Dec 27th, 2004, 3:46pm
I am a very concerned spouse of an active duty military man who has been getting CH's for the last 13 years on an annual basis. The CHs are getting worse and this time they are lasting longer. In the past they would last 2-4 weeks and now they are lasting over a month. Each CH lasts about 8 hours and usually happen at night about 2 hours after going to sleep. Any other gulf war veterans out there experiencing the same? Since finding this resource you are all in my prayers because these Chs are very painful. Any advice ???  

Title: Re: Any Military Members?
Post by Grandma_Sweet_Boy on Dec 27th, 2004, 5:42pm
I'm pretty sure there are some military guys around here somewhere and no doubt one of them will respond to your post.

Has your hubby been diagnosed with CH by a neuro? The part about getting hit when he's asleep sounds like it, but the 8 hour duration doesn't.  Most seem to last 45 minutes to about 90 minutes and some have said 3 hours, but 8 hours seems awfully long for it to be CH.

Have you looked into all the information sections to the left of the MB?  Have him take the cluster quiz.  It may help when he next seeks medical attention.  There is a ton of information there and sometimes it's a good idea to print it out and take it with him to the doctor.

Has he tried O2?  What is he taking for the pain.  Most of the pain meds cause rebounds HA's.

Check out the supporter area of the MB as well.  You'll find many others like yourself and they will all help you in any way they can.

Hope some of this helps.

Carol


Title: Re: Any Military Members?
Post by guesst on Dec 27th, 2004, 5:54pm
Yes I am ex-military.  Started getting mine while on active duty, but if you think the military is responsible, I would have to disagree with you.

Title: Re: Any Military Members?
Post by Lalady on Dec 27th, 2004, 5:55pm
Yes he has been diagnosed and is currently taking Fioricet and Zomig and initially took Predazone. I appreciate your reply. It is so hard to see him suffer and I just wish there was sonething I could do.

Title: Re: Any Military Members? Guesst
Post by Lalady on Dec 27th, 2004, 6:11pm

on 12/27/04 at 17:54:03, guesst wrote:
Yes I am ex-military.  Started getting mine while on active duty, but if you think the military is responsible, I would have to disagree with you.


I do not know who or what is responsible all I know that he is in pain and we are limited by military health benefits. I hope that your CHs are few and far between and that you have many pain free days

Title: Re: Any Military Members? Guesst
Post by guesst on Dec 27th, 2004, 6:14pm

on 12/27/04 at 18:11:33, Lalady wrote:
I do not know who or what is responsible all I know that he is in pain and we are limited by military health benefits. I hope that your CHs are few and far between and that you have many pain free days

Ok, he needs to get Oxygen presribed at 15 lpm with a non-rebreather mask.  And some imitrex, zomig or amerge only one of those three, you CAN NOT mix them.  Print out some of the imformation found here to help educate your doctor, if you have any problems or questions, I will not hesitate to help.

Title: Re: Any Military Members?
Post by Biker on Dec 27th, 2004, 8:05pm
Go to the VA hospital.  Get a referral to a neurologist.  Dont expect alot  there.  You may have to educate the neuro.    The VA will give verapamil fairly easy, triptians are very limited, and oxygen is nearly impossible to get a perscription for.    After my insurance ran out, I have had to rely on the VA for my medical.  Not the best in the world, but better than nothing.  Expect long lines, unknowledgeable doctors, and overcrowded parking lots.   They do what they can, but the gov. has them fairly limited------especially for a mere "headache."   You could get lucky and find a VA hospital that is linked to other hospitals, and those are lots better than the one I visit.    Good Luck.  

Title: Re: Any Military Members?
Post by medic1852 on Dec 29th, 2004, 5:15pm
Hello and welcome. I spent 8 Years in the Marine Corps, I am a gulf war vetran, I doubt it is linked as I have had my CH since I was 16. Sorry

Title: Re: Any Military Members?
Post by Rhemah on Oct 10th, 2005, 10:17pm
USArmy, CHs started after Desert Storm. The VA provides Zolmitriptan but they do nothing for the CHs. The VA can not get me Imitrex I have to buy it at Raleys. Also when they started 6 to 8 per day at 10 on the scale, the local VA rep just told me there was nothing he or the VA would do for me. After 9 months I was a disaster, living in my bed room hiding from my wife and kids. I lost my job and my wife supported us for a year. Life is better now as I had a few years with only 5 or 6 per month. My triggers are many but the worst is laser printers and copy mechines. These set off BIG #10s ,30mins after exposure. Imitrex is the cure and I chew them. Vicoden for the rebounds. One or two Vicodens before bed and the monster is just a small pain when I wake up insted of a full head banger.

Title: Re: Any Military Members?
Post by Gator on Oct 11th, 2005, 8:39am
Welcome to our little corner of the web.  Sorry your husband is suffering regardless of the reason.

As you have no doubt discovered, the links to the left have tons of good info in them.   There is more info on the OUCH website (http://www.clusterheadaches.org).   Read everything you can, have him take the cluster quiz (http://www.clusterheadaches.com/quiz.html) and print stuff out that seems applicable.  Unfortunately, because of the rarity of the disorder, you may end up teaching whatever doctor about CH.

Here is a link to read and print and take to his doctor.  It describes preventative, transitional, abortive and surgical treatments for CH.

http://www.brightok.net/~mnjday/chtherapy.pdf

Here is a link to some non-prescription alternatives different people have used to help with the pain:

http://www.clusterheadaches.org/resources/non_script_treat.htm

I would suggest talking with his doctor and/or pharmacist before taking any of the nutritional supplements.  At the very least check for interactions at a website such as:

http://www.drugdigest.org/DD/Home/AllAboutDrugs

Nutritional supplements can interact with prescription meds just the same as some prescription meds interact with each other.  Better safe than sorry where your health is concerned.
 
Oxygen is an excellent abortive.  Works for most people when used properly.  Defintely try this.  As well as it works, I have a hard time understanding why more doctors do not prescribe it.  It must be used correctly to work, though.  Get it prescribed for up to 15 lpm through a non-rebreathing mask for no more than 20 minutes.  If the doc won't prescribe it, he might try welder's O2.  It's the same pure oxygen used by medical suppliers.  Many people here use it and would be more than happy to help you set it up.  Here are some links that tells about using O2:

http://www.maplefallswebdesign.com/misc/oxygen/oxygen.htm

http://www.headaches.org/consumer/topicsheets/oxygen.html

http://www.chhelp.org/mhni.html  

Here is a link to a letter that may help explain things to friends, family and co-workers.

http://www.clusterheadaches.org.uk/home/index.cfm?address=../clusters/note_colleagues.cfm&added=04/01/04&code=CB

Again, welcome to CH.com.  There's no better place in the world for info and support of cluster headaches.


Mike


Title: Re: Any Military Members?
Post by Phil L on Oct 12th, 2005, 6:29pm
Sorry to here of your husbands Ch. I receive all my medical treatment at the VAMC in San Diego. This facility is perhaps the best in the VA system as it is a teaching hospital for UCSD Medical School. If a veteran is rated 50% or greater disabled, he/she is entitled to full medical benefits extending beyond any service connected conditions, without co-pay. My experience has been that yes, some treatments are hard to get prescribed, but that said, with enough umph and a Doctor who is willing to push hard for you, most anything is attainable, so don't give up on the system.

Phil L

Title: Re: Any Military Members?
Post by Jeepgun on Oct 13th, 2005, 7:20am
US Army, 1987-1993. CH started in 1998. I don't believe there's any connection. I hope your husband finds the help he needs. Gator and others have offered some good advice. Good luck to you both.

-Frank



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