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Re: Weird Triggers....
« Reply #25 on: Feb 2nd, 2008, 9:42am » |
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a few triggers for me triggers. in the summer. air conditioned buildings. any kind of smoke. the dry heater in my truck. one time i was cleaning a walkway with some bleach and that started my last cycle. perfume and aftershave lotion. when i laid tile i could run jackhammers 12 to 14 hours a day and not get until 20 minutes into my ride home. anytime of day...????? i used to swear the presence of one wifes friends would set them off. i think it was the way i cringed my face when i had to listen to her squeaky ass voice. i've heard of regular people getting migraines listening to her talk. of course beer and pot will set me on fire. ( not that i've ever smoked pot ::) nitrates seemed to do it too. i used to tell this guy i worked with that his bad breathe would set them off. he was a real prick about my condition so i had to fire back with something. did any of that occur to you man.... sir....lol. sorry i still make references to the big laboski. let me know if that helps you out dude.
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Re: Weird Triggers....
« Reply #26 on: Feb 6th, 2008, 12:46pm » |
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Good morning, besides dealing with CCH, I also have Lyme and have to experiment a lot with treatments and supplements. I agree: If you know your triggers, avoid them. Stress, sleep, showers, loud noises and bright lights set me off. These can't really be avoided, but I have to take a deep breath and tell myself, that I can deal with them. A lot of prescription drugs do it also, so I don't take them anymore. Chicken, tomatos, some nuts, ice cold food or drinks and certain enzymes definetely trigger attacks. As far as the popcorn question goes: Corn is a common allergen. Don't eat it. I find the triggered attacks worse than the "scheduled" ones. See, what you can find under "Leaky Gut". I have that, I have to avoid a lot of food in general and detox a lot. Slippery elm powder helps me a lot, because it binds toxins in the gut. I get less attacks, when I only eat, what I can tolerate. Check your skin products and house cleaners for triggers also. Don't use anything with Isopropyl Alcohol or anything else, that you don't tolerate. Be better, Sonja
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Re: Weird Triggers....
« Reply #27 on: Feb 11th, 2008, 8:13pm » |
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When I am in a 'high cycle' (am chronic but somewhat controlled by massive amounts of meds), alcohol is definately a trigger but I can imbibe at any other times without aggravation. It's strange, but I definitely have to watch the position I lay my head in at all times. If I am watching tv or reading in bed and my head or, more accurately my neck, is bent at a certain angle, it will trigger a shadow which will usually develop into a full blown HA if I do not correct the position immediately. In my opinion, it has nothing to do with 'relaxing' as I just need to change my position and am still 'relaxed'. Besides which, I spend alot of time relaxing (maybe I'm just lazy!) doing meditation and during yoga...it has never 'triggered' an attack for me. Just gotta watch how I lean, bend or twist my neck is all...
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Re: Weird Triggers....
« Reply #28 on: Feb 11th, 2008, 8:54pm » |
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Everyone talks about caffiene to abort. I feel caffeine is a trigger for me. I gave up cafeine my last cycle (4years ago. So after 3 1/2 years of no caffeine, I start to drink it again. And the next time I was due for a cycle, it came and is still here. Cold be a coincidence but why tempt it. Those from the philly area could attest to a good Wawa coffee. I hate to give it up but my body tells me otherwise. If popcorn triggers, then eat some chips.
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Re: Weird Triggers....
« Reply #29 on: Feb 11th, 2008, 9:59pm » |
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on Feb 11th, 2008, 8:13pm, Miz_D wrote:It's strange, but I definitely have to watch the position I lay my head in at all times. If I am watching tv or reading in bed and my head or, more accurately my neck, is bent at a certain angle, it will trigger a shadow which will usually develop into a full blown HA if I do not correct the position immediately. |
| There is at least one study which shows that neck movement can trigger/aggravate or, in some cases, alleviate ch attacks. http://www.ouch-us.org/chgeneral/neckpain.htm It has also been documented that neck position can trigger attacks in Paroxysmal Hemicrania. http://www.ouch-us.org/chgeneral/chandrelatedha.htm http://www.emedicine.com/neuro/topic67.htm
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Re: Weird Triggers....
« Reply #30 on: Feb 12th, 2008, 2:51pm » |
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Thanks for posting those articles Gator, always appreciate good information!
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Re: Weird Triggers....
« Reply #31 on: Feb 13th, 2008, 12:27pm » |
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This has become a perennial theme, so here's a somewhat larger list of the sometimes wild and wacky triggers reported by CH sufferers over the years (now updated): Air travel/altitude Air conditioning Alcohol/red wine/beer Allergies Antibiotics Antihistamine Avocado Barometric pressure changes/storm systems Breathing Bright light (strobe lights/shadows/sunlight) Caffeine Cessation of stress Change in seasons (Fall/Spring) Cheese/strong/ripe cheese Chewing/eating (too long/hard) Chlorine (swimming pools) Chocolate Cigarettes Cigarette smoke Climate change/holidays Cocaine Cold remedies/nasal sprays Cold/cold environment Coughing/sneezing/nose blowing Crying Dairy products Eggs Exercise Fatigue Flour Gummi Bears Heat/warm environment High altitude Histamines Hormonal changes Hot baths/showers Hunger Infrared heat/light Irregular sleep Lack of sleep Laying in awkward positions (non-sexual) Laying in awkward positions (sexual) Limey-bird Long drives Long lists of things Loud noises Marijuana Mold spores Mother-in-laws MSG Naps Narcotics Nitrates Nitrites Nitroglycerine NREM sleep Nuts/almonds Outofcommission’s friend’s wife Peanut butter Pop corn Relaxation REM sleep Salt Sensory overload (too much noise/activity) Sexual intercourse Shellfish/shrimps Showers Sitting for too long Sleep Sleep apnea Smoking Stress Strong smells/solvents (candles/petrol/perfume/paint/glue) Sulphates (sulfates) Sulphites (sulfites) Tangerines Topical steroids Waking up early Yeast extract (Marmite) Interesting that there may be a homeopathic element to many of these i.e. what triggers some people can often be successful abortives for others I challenge anyone to give up everything above and monitor the outcome Let me know if I've missed any -Lee
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Re: Weird Triggers....
« Reply #32 on: Feb 13th, 2008, 12:35pm » |
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on Feb 13th, 2008, 12:27pm, LeeS wrote: I challenge anyone to give up everything above and monitor the outcome -Lee |
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Re: Weird Triggers....
« Reply #33 on: Feb 13th, 2008, 1:54pm » |
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Hey Lee!!! You forgot "Long lists of things that trigger CH"
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« Reply #34 on: Feb 13th, 2008, 2:09pm » |
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No I didn't
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Re: Weird Triggers....
« Reply #35 on: Feb 17th, 2008, 2:25am » |
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my wifes friend has been pretty tough to give up lee but it has helped i didn't see sneezing on that list but theres another one you can through on the pile. johnny
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Re: Weird Triggers....
« Reply #36 on: Feb 18th, 2008, 6:23am » |
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on Feb 17th, 2008, 2:25am, outofcommission wrote:i didn't see sneezing on that list but theres another one you can through on the pile. |
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Re: Weird Triggers....
« Reply #37 on: Feb 22nd, 2008, 11:20am » |
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I think somewhere along the way this post has lost its focus! I think Lebowski wanted to know strange triggers not just all trigger so here ya go Lebowski for strange triggers, my Mrs works with perfumes, body lotions, shower gels and candles, most of the time im fine with them and the fragrances but when im on a cylce only ONE fragrance triggers me and sets me off on an all mighty attack and thats Pomegranate, no other combo or fragrance affects me just that one no matter what form, WEIRD HEY!!
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Re: Weird Triggers....
« Reply #38 on: Feb 23rd, 2008, 5:56am » |
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Now that is interesting and weird Tr1n1ty. Perhaps a long shot, but pomegranate (the juice anyway) enhances nitric oxide, which has been implicated with the pathogenesis of primary headaches, including CH: cue patti If you Google it, you'll find loads of references; here's just one: Quote: Anyone ever been hit after drinking pomegranate juice; never tried it personally? -Lee
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Re: Weird Triggers....
« Reply #39 on: Feb 25th, 2008, 12:31pm » |
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LeeS uve just blown me away!! Brilliant bit of info!!! I have drank pomegranate juice my mrs loves it but never noticed if it triggers my heads but i will keep a vigil eye out for that!! Awesome!!!
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Re: Weird Triggers....
« Reply #40 on: Mar 1st, 2008, 4:49am » |
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I'm new to this message board, it's really interesting to read what sets off an attack in other people - and so good to know I'm not alone (I know that's what everyone says - but it's so true!). For me, air conditioning - hot or cold - or "false" heating, ie the sun doesn't set off CH and nor does being next to an open fire but sitting next to a radiator does. Weird. Or being in a room without fresh air - my house is always arctic in the winter! I also have a really bad cold at the moment with blocked sinuses and am convinced that's why I am still in a cycle much longer than usual and my attacks are a lot worse (and during the day when, luckily, I usually only get them at night). Oh yes, the cruelest one for me that has been a trigger on several occasions over the years - crying. The effect is very similar to my current blocked sinuses, I think. And re alcohol, I found sometimes it did, sometimes it didn't so now I don't risk it at all.
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Re: Weird Triggers....
« Reply #41 on: Mar 1st, 2008, 5:05am » |
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on Mar 1st, 2008, 4:49am, BeckyK wrote:...And re alcohol, I found sometimes it did, sometimes it didn't so now I don't risk it at all. |
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Re: Weird Triggers....
« Reply #42 on: Mar 2nd, 2008, 3:03am » |
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hi becky. being outside in the cold air will suppress them as long as i am in it. soon as i come inside I'm on eggshells. would like to know what kind of beer brian drinks that helps his headaches. as much i love to drink beer it will set me off fast. maybe it's just american beer that sets them off. i'm glad that works for you brian. wish it did for me.
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Re: Weird Triggers....
« Reply #43 on: Mar 2nd, 2008, 5:25pm » |
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Bright sunlight and heat will set me off. I took my daughter to the zoo, got halfway round and got hit with the headache from hell. We had to stand in the castle shop, because it is stone it was cold, we stood there for 20mins I swear the staff thought I was a shoplifter . I now keep my head covered at all times when I am out in the summer. Hello Becky from another Becky.
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Re: Weird Triggers....
« Reply #44 on: Mar 3rd, 2008, 9:10am » |
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some triggers. well for me.. paint...sux cause my hobby is painting....lol annoying noise...like air con and the like in the background... beer...but with this its very strange...like most have said is kinda hit and miss...half a beer and it could go either way...could be f#$%ed or if not im cool for the night or when a normal hit is timed to come. one strange thing ive noticed is that if i can and do drink that the next day is usually a very mild day if i had drank alot...anyone else had this?? for me drinking can help to give a little break for a day...still get hit but never as hard after...strange..but it seems to be true for me. flashing lights and loud sounds....sux living in tokyo...lol bad weather...storm/typhoon in summer is always a rough week cheap japanese food...msg? perfume..i once had a house mate who had a girly girlfriend...everytime she walked in the do the beast would strike.. REM sleep is a sure fire. going to the movie theater...strange...now im thinking its the popcorn...lol swimming pool. flying is n super no go even when just finished cycle.. theres more but i cant think atm...lol
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Re: Weird Triggers....
« Reply #45 on: Mar 3rd, 2008, 6:36pm » |
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There is a catagory or workout suppliments that are listed as "hemodialotors" whihc help one get all pumped up by opening the blood vessels. Those do me everytime. So does working out. I have to quit working out when I am in cycle. This year is sucked because I was "coming out of retirement" for semi-pro football this fall. Not anymore with the shape I am in.......I don't think there is a postion called "chubby-back" or "round-end".......
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Re: Weird Triggers....
« Reply #46 on: Mar 9th, 2008, 12:03pm » |
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When i'm at the peak of my cycle...pretty much everything can be a trigger....for sure no alcohol, no chinese food, chocolate and no naps, watching tv, etc. No rhyme or reason with these things. I do lose weight when in cycle because eating a meal will bring one on. Whatever it is I eat. So I neat a small meal daily. And that brings one on too. Langa
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Re: Weird Triggers....
« Reply #47 on: Mar 12th, 2008, 3:06pm » |
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Using Lees list, these are mine Air travel/altitude Barometric pressure changes/storm systems Bright light (strobe lights/shadows/sunlight) Change in seasons (Fall/Spring) Chardonay Wine Climate change/holidays Drastic temperature changes - usually 30 degrees or greater over 24 hours High altitude - above 31K ft Lack of sleep - (caused by CH - it's a downward spiral) MSG Narcotics REM sleep Stress Strong smells/solvents Time zone changes 2hrs or more
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« Reply #48 on: Mar 12th, 2008, 5:02pm » |
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hmmmmmm.since still new @ this, i basically can only say the vino, thus havent had any in wks......... . however, my FEH ( future ex husband!!!) stopped by this morning to get the tax papers for the accountant, and he proceeded to say"you are getting a flat tire"..............and GOT IN HIS CAR & DROVE AWAY!!! WTF LMAO.........now!!!!needless to say i have been in pain all day........btw, this is a man i would be married to 4 27 yrs who told me 1 1/2 yrs ago he hasnt loved me for 10 yrs, wants to date..and just waited for our youngest to graduate high school............as much as i resent him, i would still never ever wish this on him................................
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Re: Weird Triggers....
« Reply #49 on: Mar 12th, 2008, 8:28pm » |
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My biggest trigger is perfumes and colognes. You know, you can't go anywhere without getting hit by some sort of perfume. It's in hair products, shampoos, detergents, etc. I can't go to indoor functions and have had to request that my coworkers not use any sort of fregrances. I can't even smell the "flavor" of the scent. It's like getting hit onn the right side of the face with a wrecking ball. A wierd trigger for me is one of the fake sugars. I have eaten a yogurt and drank a couple of drinks that have fake sugar in them and within 5 min. I am heading to the maxalt. Don't know which one and don't intend on doing a survey to find out. 3 times is enough for me. Finally, saw the note from the guy about drinking cold water. I have a nurse friend that suggested to me I drink something really cold at the onset of an episode. She claims that if you can cause a brain freeze, it counteracts the Cluster or Migraine. Icees do it for me if I have one just starting. An airconditioner full on, directly on my face, will eleviate the swelling in the eye and sinus and affords some relief. Hope this helps.
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