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(Message started by: daveham on Mar 11th, 2008, 9:01am)

Title: Is my tension headaches related to my CH's?
Post by daveham on Mar 11th, 2008, 9:01am
My problems started at 13.  Restless legs, back and neck tension, headaches and periods of severe headaches.

The severe headaches were not diagnosed until I was 30.  They are cluster headaches.  1-2 daily for 2-4 months every second year.  I respond really well to Zolmitripan so the diagnosis was a breakthrough.  Unfortunately I had no success with preventatives.

But this leaves quite a period between the headaches where I still have problems.  Muscular problems in the upper and lower back, stiff neck and tension headaches (tender spots on front side of neck).  After 20 years of therapy (chiro, massage, chinese medicine, etc) I just can't get to the bottom of it.  The behavior is almost random and doesn't make sense to an honest therapist.  That is, I don't have a musculoskelatal problem per se.

Over time I have discovered three things.  When I have CHs and take Zomig, I have no back or neck problems.  Secondly my neck and back tension crescendos in the months prior to the CHs.  Finally my muscle tension occurs mostly at about 5am (REM sleep) which is the same time my classic CH occurs!

This led to an experiment and the discovery that 1/4 of a zomig tablet can fix my back often when a good chiropractor cant unlock it.  It also fixes fatigue that I suffer from when my neck is stiff and sore.  The relief can last for weeks.  I have medical advice that Zomig should NOT be used this way - only for the real headache.

My neuro claims that there is no chance that CH's are related to other rheumatological problems.  But I am curious to know more.  Either zolmitripan has a great side affect for my 'other' problem or it is all one in the same problem - just different degrees of symptom.

Does anyone know more?  Are muscle problems and fatigue part of CH's?

Title: Re: Is my tension headaches related to my CH's?
Post by monty on Mar 11th, 2008, 9:32am
Kudzu (which many people use to prevent clusters) has traditionally been used for neck problems. Based on that, and what you've described, it sounds like your neck/back/shoulder problems are could be linked to serotonin and clusters.

I wouldn't rule out some tension effects generated by the reaction to pain in clusters, but it sounds like what you are describing could be neurological too.


Title: Re: Is my tension headaches related to my CH's?
Post by GonnabeatemJudi on Mar 11th, 2008, 12:44pm
I have had tension to beat all for the past two years, but no headaches during that, until a month or so ago.  So, I guess not related.
At least not for me.  

Title: Re: Is my tension headaches related to my CH's?
Post by kevmd on Mar 11th, 2008, 5:16pm
I'd say they are related to CH.  THis is my first cylce where I am experiencing a similar situation to yours.  Have lots of tension in my neck, upper back, and shoulders.  When I do neck rolls, you can hear all kinds of cracking, sounds like my head is full of rice crispies.  A nice hot shower seems to help along with some tylenol

Title: Re: Is my tension headaches related to my CH's?
Post by Annette on Mar 11th, 2008, 5:25pm
Have you had your magnesium and calcium levels checked ? CH can be related to lower level of those 2. In fact, some people here take magnesium and calcium supplement for CH with very good effect.

My husband had a lot of muscle cramps during cycle, especially in the calves, upper back, shoulders and neck. He took magnesium and calcium supplement as well as potassium, taurine and omega 3 fish oil, all with intention to treat CH but the cramps disappeared when he was on them.

Strong vibes and painfree wishes to you.


Edited cos its too early in the morning for spelling  :P



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