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(Message started by: Argonaut on May 7th, 2008, 11:52pm)

Title: How do you tell when cycles are ending?
Post by Argonaut on May 7th, 2008, 11:52pm
Apologies if this sounds like a silly question, but how do you know when your headache cycle is ending or starting?

I can't work out if I'm going towards the end of a cycle or if I'm starting another. It wasn't a huge deal when I was unmedicated but now that I am, I think I have to adjust the amount of meds I take accordingly. Admittedly, I've been very bad with keeping records of my headaches in the past, which does not help!

Here's a brief run-down of my latest 'cycle':

It started around the end of March, with persistent KIP 3-4 shadows through the majority of my waking day, then escalating to about at least 1 KIP 8-9 headache a day. The most intense part lasted for most of April.

From around the 24th April, I've gone down to having  to the persistent KIP 3-4 shadows, but the past two nights, I've been hit with 7s and the shadows are more persistent.

Does it sound like the end of a cycle, or the beginning of another? Anyone else had cycles like these?


Title: Re: How do you tell when cycles are ending?
Post by Linda_Howell on May 8th, 2008, 12:17am

 I think a lot of episodics will tell  you their cycles go out with a bang.  Meaning they get worse before they stop.

 Until the next time. months...even years down the road.

Being chronic I am just telling you what other episodics have said

   I can only hope that this is exactly what is happening to you  and pray that you will please stick around here after your cycle ends.

Linda

Title: Re: How do you tell when cycles are ending?
Post by George_J on May 8th, 2008, 2:18am
...and some episodics will tell you they go out with a whimper.   ;)

Mine invariably get weaker and weaker and farther and farther apart until they disappear altogether.

So--no way to tell for sure that the cycle is ending.  But this is how to get through them:  One day at a time, one hit at a time.  Sooner or later it ends.  Get hit--live anyway.     ;)

All the best,

George

Title: Re: How do you tell when cycles are ending?
Post by Paige_H. on May 8th, 2008, 8:46am
I haven't posted here in years.  But being episodic, my concern was always when does it end.  I've noticed that I start out with one HA every other night for a week, then for at least the next 4 weeks I'm hammered with 2-4 every night or I get one KIP 8-9 instead every night.  Then all of the sudden I won't have any for a night or two, get a few small ones and then "poof".  Of course being episodic, my greatest fear is turning chronic.  Most of my cycles last about 6 weeks.  I had better be at the end of this one.

Title: Re: How do you tell when cycles are ending?
Post by Barry_T_Coles on May 8th, 2008, 9:33am
[quote author=George_J link=board=chspecific;num=1210218760;start=0#2 date=05/08/08 at 02:18:50  Sooner or later it ends.  Get hit--live anyway.     ;)
All the best,

George[/quote]

Exactakally

When it happens it will, no point in loosing sleep over it & good to see you still around.

Cheers my friend
Barry

Title: Re: How do you tell when cycles are ending?
Post by Jean on May 8th, 2008, 9:36am
Mine slow down at the end too.  I am also episodic.

Hang in there.

Jeannie

Title: Re: How do you tell when cycles are ending?
Post by mezza on May 8th, 2008, 10:03pm
I do believe that everyone is different in terms of cycle duration and characteristics.  I have read so many posts where the end of the cycle is characterized by a terrible night or two of ha's high on the kip scale.  I've been sorta waiting for that myself.

However, my cycle is over now and i haven't had a shadow or ha in two weeks.  Really since starting the verapamil all i've had are a shadow here and there and maybe two kip 4-5's-  

So i guess mine go out with a whimper!  This cycle lasted 8 weeks .  Last two cycles lasted 1-2 weeks but were killed with preds only  ( got lucky I guess)

So what the others said just take it day by day and enjoy every pain free moment you get!!   :)

kelly

Title: Re: How do you tell when cycles are ending?
Post by AussieBrian on May 9th, 2008, 12:34am
You'll know they're ending when we start doing the happy dance for you.

Hey, I hear music!!

Title: Re: How do you tell when cycles are ending?
Post by Argonaut on May 12th, 2008, 6:08am
Thanks guys, the headaches seemed to have slowed down - so I'll enjoy it while it lasts.

I'm not sure if I'm chronic or episodic because the longest break I've had is about a month. The definition between chronic and episodic confuses me but I guess having those breaks still makes me episodic?



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