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(Message started by: Transamdoug on May 15th, 2008, 4:11pm)

Title: Sugar as a trigger?
Post by Transamdoug on May 15th, 2008, 4:11pm
Hi all, read somewhere a chronic CHer cut sugar completely out of his diet and CH gone? Never was much for sweets when I was younger but sure crave them now, shortly before getting cycles myself started eating lots of sweets. Anyone experimented with this or have any proof one way or another? I'm starvin!

Title: Re: Sugar as a trigger?
Post by Tara Ann on May 15th, 2008, 4:16pm
I've never noticed any link with sugar and trigger.  (I'm chronic).  Your starvin huh?  Steroids? lol ;)

BTW  what year Transam is your fave?  I like the last year they had the round headlights (1969 if I'm correct)  It's my dream car.

Title: Re: Sugar as a trigger?
Post by Transamdoug on May 15th, 2008, 4:51pm
Hi Tara, ya gotta love those roids! My TA is a 78, the 2nd year of the square headlights but 69 is my fave as well.

Title: Re: Sugar as a trigger?
Post by Transamdoug on May 15th, 2008, 5:11pm
Let  me put it this way, ate a bunch of sweets yesterday and had shadows all day and a 7 last night. Today stayed away from the sweet stuff and much better. I plan on experimenting with this and wondered if anyone else had?

Title: Re: Sugar as a trigger?
Post by starlight on May 15th, 2008, 9:29pm
Hi,

I don't know about it, but it sure seems worth a try to cut it out and see.  I know I would always have sugar in my coffee but have since cut it out (for different reasons).  Only food I ever said hmmmm.... this seems like it might be helping was salmon--noticed a few pain free nights after eating salmon although sometimes it did not seem to bring about a painfree night.  So, it's worth experiementing with nutrition and foods--it can't hurt, maybe might help.  Good luck.

Title: Re: Sugar as a trigger?
Post by vietvet2tours on May 15th, 2008, 10:45pm
   Annette needs to research this.

          Potter

Title: Re: Sugar as a trigger?
Post by jon019 on May 16th, 2008, 10:46pm
Ummm... nope. In high cycle, if I don't keep my blood sugar level up, I'm screwed. Means eating candy which I don't normally do. Yup, I know, roller coaster ride. The alternative is bam.....bam....bam...

Regards,

Jon

Title: Re: Sugar as a trigger?
Post by George_J on May 16th, 2008, 11:33pm
Purely anecdotal, and based only on my own experience....

Been there, done that, didn't work.  I went through a long period of cutting out various things to see whether or not doing so would help.  Other than alcohol, I was never able to isolate any foodstuff that altered a cycle in any way--eliminating the recognized migraine triggers (like chocolate and cheese) made no difference whatsoever.  

In saying so, I mean that I wasn't looking at whether I got hit after eating something specific, or not eating something specific--I was looking at the average number of hits that occurred over a given period of time.  That did not change in any significant way.  

I've always been a bit obsessive about documenting my cycles--before I met any of you, it was more morbid fascination than anything else, I suppose.  These things tend to hold your attention.

Best,

George      




Title: Re: Sugar as a trigger?
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on May 18th, 2008, 8:44pm
I eat a lot of sugar all the time.  My head varies.  Sometimes I get 7 HA a day, sometimes its 5 a week, but the sugar is constant.


Title: Re: Sugar as a trigger?
Post by Transamdoug on May 18th, 2008, 9:40pm
Great news! I really didn't want to give up sugar for this! Thank you all for sharing your experience with me. It means a lot.

Title: Re: Sugar as a trigger?
Post by Barry_T_Coles on May 19th, 2008, 12:02am
Sugar doesn’t seem to be a prob with me; 3 spoons per mug of coffee times 5 mugs a day, but if I eat chocolate the Emus’ kick me dunny door down.
Cheers
Barry

Title: Re: Sugar as a trigger?
Post by mezza on May 20th, 2008, 12:02am
while in high cycle i stayed away from chocolate-  i have no idea though whether that helped anything-  been eating chocolate again and haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary-

Title: Re: Sugar as a trigger?
Post by Brew on May 20th, 2008, 8:00am

on 05/19/08 at 00:02:10, Barry_T_Coles wrote:
...but if I eat chocolate the Emus’ kick me dunny door down.

Okay, Barry - I'll bite. What the hell is a dunny door?

Title: Re: Sugar as a trigger?
Post by Linda_Howell on May 20th, 2008, 12:43pm

 Was wondering the same exact thing Brew.

   And why would an emu like chocolate?

Title: Re: Sugar as a trigger?
Post by Barry_T_Coles on May 20th, 2008, 10:24pm
Old dunny, the colloquial word for an outdoor toilet near Burraga in country New South Wales, Australia.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3148/2510418682_b543b4e955.jpg?v=0

The Dunny is also know as the Out house, Loo, bog, crappa, shit house, library etc.

When an Aussie wants to jokingly inflict a fate worse than death on someone they will use the phrase “I hope your chooks turn into emus’ & kick your dunny door down”

As for emus’ eating chocolate, they will eat just about anything but their favourite food is the quongdong seed; a small marble sized fruit with a thin layer of flesh over a very hard round seed pod, quongdong seed also makes very good jam but only if it has been through the emus first otherwise the jam has a sour taste to it.

Cheers
Barry

Title: Re: Sugar as a trigger?
Post by Brew on May 20th, 2008, 10:29pm
Thanks for the Dunny clarification - I think.


on 05/20/08 at 22:24:49, Barry_T_Coles wrote:
As for emus’ eating chocolate, they will eat just about anything but their favourite food is the quongdong seed; a small marble sized fruit with a thin layer of flesh over a very hard round seed pod, quongdong seed also makes very good jam but only if it has been through the emus first otherwise the jam has a sour taste to it.

Kind of like that expensive coffee that's "harvested" from civet shit?

Title: Re: Sugar as a trigger?
Post by George_J on May 21st, 2008, 12:59am

on 05/20/08 at 22:24:49, Barry_T_Coles wrote:
quongdong seed also makes very good jam but only if it has been through the emus first otherwise the jam has a sour taste to it.


I'll pass on the quongdong jam.  

Best,

George

Title: Re: Sugar as a trigger?
Post by Barry_T_Coles on May 21st, 2008, 7:42pm

on 05/20/08 at 22:29:53, Brew wrote:
Thanks for the Dunny clarification - I think.

Kind of like that expensive coffee that's "harvested" from civet shit?


That's just about it Brew but like George says that's one brand of coffee I would pass on. Stone the crows a bloke can only take so much shit. ;;D

Title: Re: Sugar as a trigger?
Post by chefjohn on May 21st, 2008, 8:55pm
Found this on another website

Banging like a dunny door in a thunderstorm      

Having sexual relations vigorously.


'Oh man I saw the grossest thing last night.'
'Oh, dude, what happened?'
'I walked in on my room mate.'
'I bet that would have been spectacular.'
'Banging like a dunny door in a thunderstorm.'


Title: Re: Sugar as a trigger?
Post by Linda_Howell on May 22nd, 2008, 12:06am

Barry...seriously...you need to come to America.


   I worry about you.

Title: Re: Sugar as a trigger?
Post by kcopelin on May 22nd, 2008, 2:06am
;;D
This is the most multi-lingual group that I am a member of.  
I cannot imagine saying "the emus kick me dunny door down" and keeping a straight face.
;;D
Sugar does not affect my CH.  HOWEVER, if my 10 year has too much sugar THAT can aggravate matters.

PFDAN
kathy

Title: Re: Sugar as a trigger?
Post by Kirk on May 22nd, 2008, 9:36am
  I asked Ringo for his opinion. And he said it makes no differance at all.
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