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What do we call it (Part ???)?
« on: Sep 29th, 2003, 10:02am »
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I've seen several threads in the past discussing the drawbacks of calling what we have "headaches" as it colors most peoples minds as to what we are experiencing.  Much discussion has been made as to what it should be called. (Though as far as I know, there has been no concensus reached.) In researching CH, I have come across the following names: Bing's erythroprosalgia, Bing-Horton syndrome, ciliary neuralgia, erythroprosopalgia, Harris neuralgia, histamine cephalalgia, Raeder's syndrome, sphenopalatine neuralgia, and vidian neuralgia.  As an experiment, over the past two months, I have chosen to tell people (when it has come up - which is not often) that I have CH 50% of the time and that I have (insert fancy sounding name here) 50% of the time, to try to judge a difference in reaction. It is fascniating to me that when people hear "headache" they immediately file CH under the things-we-all-have-to-suffer-through-but-some-people-are-whimps category and are all but dismissive of the seriousness/import of this disease.  Conversely, when they hear (insert important sounding name here) it is given the respect normally reserved for terminal illnesses.
 
I would love to hear others thoughts on this.  Should we, as a community and a family, move away from CH as a name because of the frivolity and unimportance attached to headache?
 
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PS: BTW, I am PF today, and last night had the best night sleep I have had in MONTHS!
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Re: What do we call it (Part ???)?
« Reply #1 on: Sep 29th, 2003, 11:13am »
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Glad you got some sleep last night.  
 
We've tried in the past to come up with something real IMPORTANT sounding, but keep going back to CH. But we all know what you mean - Headache just drawls those "yawns" and "take an aspirin" stares from most people.  
 
The one I hate most is, "OH I had one of those ONE time - they're really terrible aren't they?!!!" No jury in the world would convict me...... LOL!  
 
Education is the only thing we can count on = educating the PUBLIC on CH and how bad they really are and that's just gonna take time. OUCH is working on it. Get INVOLVED and help the cause. That's the ONLY way we're gonna change anything. I know I know -- I keep repeating myself, but it's the ONLY way we're gonna change PUBLIC opinion and that's just how it is. Sorry 'bout that....
 
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Re: What do we call it (Part ???)?
« Reply #2 on: Sep 29th, 2003, 11:14am »
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i Agree with youm 100%.
 
 When I was first diagnosed the specialist thought I had 1 of 2 things, TriGeminaneuralgia (not sure of the spelling) or ch.  When I repeated this to my friends and family, the emphasis was on th TGN and concern BUT....
when it was ruled out, and the verdict was in for CH,
 All the concern and interest stopped because I think like you do, the sufferer can live with a headache so they think it is just that.  What name to give it?
I don't know, but how do we rename something that a doctor has difficulty with even diagnosing let alone curing!
 YES it should be renamed BUT>>> WE NEED SOME DR.S OUT THERE TO START RESEARCHING AND FINDING SOME ANSWERS AND CURES!
 Because I am a woman, I still have drs. refusing to believe that this is what I have because ( I AM WOMAN,  HEAR ME ROAR)
Where do we start?
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Re: What do we call it (Part ???)?
« Reply #3 on: Sep 29th, 2003, 5:50pm »
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This is an interesting topic...CH got the name simply because the HAs would come in "clusters".  While that is true for episodic sufferers, it is not accurate at all for us chronics.   Roll Eyes
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Re: What do we call it (Part ???)?
« Reply #4 on: Sep 30th, 2003, 6:11am »
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F#CKING AGONY

 
Thats what I call it.
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Re: What do we call it (Part ???)?
« Reply #5 on: Sep 30th, 2003, 6:20am »
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I agree withBadfly;
 
except I not sure if more emphasise the F#CKING orthe AGONY.
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« Reply #6 on: Sep 30th, 2003, 7:16am »
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Love the f#cking agony.  Priceless !
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Re: What do we call it (Part ???)?
« Reply #7 on: Sep 30th, 2003, 4:38pm »
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With people I don't know well I say in a very off hand way, `Oh, I just have this neurological condition.'  
 
Then I  detail the different sorts of pain in the different locations on and in my head and add in a comforting tone of voice, `but don't get upset, it passes in half an hour. And then 2 hours later it starts up again. But don't worry. I always live through it.'
 
People get REALLY upset when you start to comfort them in this way, and tell them there's nothing to worry about.  
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« Reply #8 on: Sep 30th, 2003, 6:16pm »
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Mom's right,
 
You cant just up and change what the Doc's call it and make up a new name, the initials CH are finally getting some play and if we try and change it now we go a thousand steps backwards.
 
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Re: What do we call it (Part ???)?
« Reply #9 on: Sep 30th, 2003, 8:42pm »
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I'm sorry Ave but I'm sitting here laughing at your explanation - I can just see you sitting there patiently explaining - "Now don't worry - it's just a neurological disorder - it will only last a few minutes and then it will go away BUt then it will come back (and I'll be crazy again) but don't worry it will go away in a few minutes and I'll be sane again..... etc  etc... LMAO  Hell, that would scare ME and I know what you're talking about.
 
Maybe I have a STRANGE sense of humor but I'm sitting here with tears rolling down my face and it's not from CH - it's from just picturing someone listening to that - IT"S PRICELESS -- I've got to try that one.   Thanks that's the most I've laughed in a week.  You're a sweetheart.
 
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« Reply #10 on: Oct 1st, 2003, 8:27pm »
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I call them Cluster Attacks...
 
but elect Cluster Head Trauma
 
Still keeps the CH, just adds a T.
 
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Re: What do we call it (Part ???)?
« Reply #11 on: Oct 2nd, 2003, 8:40am »
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Thank you all for your input.  I know this topic has probably been talked-to-death, but I'm relatively new here. I was not implying that we should just make up some new name; all the names I quoted are noted medical terms for CH. I was more curious what other's experiences had been regarding people's reaction to it being called a headache.  Personally, I'd just tell people I have sphenopalatine neuralgia if I could figure out how to say it! Smiley
 
Thanks again all.  I'm going to go back and hit the O2.  The evil clown seems to have sharpened his teeth...
 
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Re: What do we call it (Part ???)?
« Reply #12 on: Oct 2nd, 2003, 10:15am »
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on Sep 30th, 2003, 6:16pm, jonny wrote:
Mom's right,
 
You cant just up and change what the Doc's call it and make up a new name, the initials CH are finally getting some play and if we try and change it now we go a thousand steps backwards.
 
......................................jonny

Jonny
 
Your mom is 100% on the mark.  She sounds like a great lady   (WTF happened to you?  LOL   Wink)
 
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« Reply #13 on: Oct 2nd, 2003, 11:39am »
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A Downright Dirty Shame
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