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mike
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Re: accupuncture
« Reply #50 on: Nov 15th, 2007, 11:35pm » |
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People, even doctors, are often times wrong. When I hear people say they tried it but they put the needles in my lip, between the eyes, etc. what am I to think when for me 4 needles in completely different spots worked. A cast is a cast even if it's on the wrong leg, but it won't work. It sounds as though everyones experience with acupuncture was different than my own, but the placement of the needles was also different. What should I believe, that the other acupuncturist are treating the right area and that I just got lucky, or it was crazy coincidence???
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Re: accupuncture
« Reply #51 on: Nov 15th, 2007, 11:49pm » |
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It is difficult Mike. Others have claimed their acupuncturist knew it correctly by hitting the right spot in their ear. Another by small electrical shocks to the needles.
Different stories of how it happened with acupuncture make it hard. It is tough to relate to say what is happening.
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mike
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Re: accupuncture
« Reply #52 on: Nov 15th, 2007, 11:57pm » |
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Kevin,
While I haven't read of that, I'm sure it's true. Isn't that part of the beauty of living in this day and age when we can share such ideas with people all over the world in minutes. The problem is when people trash talk others, cut and paste previous statements-only to twist the meaning, and as far as I'm concerned just plain argue.
There may be 100 different spots on the body that can eliminate CH...who knows. But as long as people are critisized for stating which ones work and which don't, how's anyone to ever know. I'll bet if everyone who's ever tried it gave details instead of just saying "it doesn't work, don't do it" you would start to find similarities that could benefit many.
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Re: accupuncture
« Reply #53 on: Nov 16th, 2007, 12:04am » |
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Mike
What your acupuncturist achieved by putting needles into the ganglion you can do yourself by applying ice to it, and its free, ice doesnt cost anything.
Now its your turn to be skeptical and I can fully understand that. The only way you can tell for yourself whether it was the greatest cure on earth that you discovered or was it a crazy coincidence is for you to wait until the next cycle, then you can return to the same acupuncturist, get him to put needles in the same spots 3 times and see whether it will work again.
In the mean time, please dont tell people " you should try acupuncture, it cured me for sure, if you try it and it doesnt work its because your acupuncturist doesnt know what to do so keep going to different ones until it works ". That is very misleding advice and it can cost people a lot of money for nothing.
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Re: accupuncture
« Reply #54 on: Nov 16th, 2007, 12:10am » |
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on Nov 15th, 2007, 11:57pm, mike wrote:
The problem is when people trash talk others, cut and paste previous statements-only to twist the meaning, and as far as I'm concerned just plain argue.
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If you believe what I posted to you is "trash talk" and that I cut and pasted your previous statements with only the intention to twist your meaning then I have nothing more to say to you.
Good luck and goodbye.
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Re: accupuncture
« Reply #55 on: Nov 16th, 2007, 3:37am » |
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Anette, I will try to get my practitioner to respond, though I cannot promise. I am not familiar with mechanism of acupuncture, so I am not able to reply to you in anyway. If you are right and acupuncture is not the thing that made the pain bearable, then either tt is placebo, or there is something else I have been doing, will try to find out, but do not think this is the case, so although it may be hazardous for me to find out that the one helping was not acupuncture if it was placebo, I will try to learn about this.
As for the nice person who told me to get off the boat, I would recommend him to read my post again, this time more carefully. What Ive written was not that I would not want to have any relationship. I was explaining why I ve posted the first message, the goal of the first message, not my goal, which post was not for establishing a long term relationship, which was a sentence to reply to Scott who said that I needed to establish some credibility.
I was thinking that I would be misunderstood from that sentence while I wrote it,
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Re: accupuncture
« Reply #56 on: Nov 16th, 2007, 4:34am » |
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Atcevik
Thank you very much for asking your acupuncturist to join the board so that we can all learn how his treatment may work for CH. I understand that he might say no but I thank you for trying.
I have no intention of driving anyone off nor putting anyone down. I simply shared my knowledge and experience as a doctor who has a post grad degree in acupuncture who practices it daily and my understanding of CH and why I dont believe acupuncture can cure it.
I would love to have a discussion/debate with someone who is formally trained in acupuncture who has tried to treat Ch with some success to learn about what they know and how they do it.
I believe such an opportunity will be beneficial to us all.
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