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« on: Nov 3rd, 2004, 11:51am » |
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Verapamil at 360mg is helping me, but what do you do about MAJOR constipation. I have been eating nothing but fiber, so much no-one wants to around me (JUST GAS) lol!!!! But seriously, even laxatives are of very little help. I don't want to taken off it (verapamil cause its helping,BUT.....I see the Dr. next week and I will ask him but I know alot of you have taken Verapamil and probably had this problem too. I am chronic so even if the Dr. gives me powerful poopers, I can't be on them forever. BY the way am I the only to ever ask this question????
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Re: Not a pleasant subject,BUT here's GOES
« Reply #1 on: Nov 3rd, 2004, 1:35pm » |
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Nope, hear this a lot myself!!! Search the archives, theres been discussion on this before... I do believe magnesium will help with it, add it into your diet as a supplement, should be able to find it at the health food store or pharmacy...(hopefully the archives will give you the doseage, I will look if I can find it...)
Good luck and glad to hear the verap is helping you, good news!
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« Reply #2 on: Nov 3rd, 2004, 2:01pm » |
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I am taking it, how long before it helps? I only started about 11/2 to 2 weeks ago. Do you know the where I might find it? Thanks, before my blue eyes turn brown!!! LOL!!! 
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Re: Not a pleasant subject,BUT here's GOES
« Reply #3 on: Nov 3rd, 2004, 2:07pm » |
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LOL Becky, grape juice, prune juice, good old natural fiber...........I saw in an old post to take up to 200 mg's??? May be up the doseage? Not sure how long it would take, I know you are anxious  ... not funny....
Not sure where you could find it, like I said health food store or pharmacy, I would think it would be easy to find...
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« Reply #4 on: Nov 3rd, 2004, 2:10pm » |
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OK - talk about gross...have you considered a colonic becky. At least after that you can start "fresh" so to speak. Most massage therapists can either do one or find you someone who can. Good luck and I hope everything comes out allright.  (sorry- couldn't resist.)
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« Reply #5 on: Nov 3rd, 2004, 2:13pm » |
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flax seed oil works well also.
sorry to hear of your pain 
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« Reply #6 on: Nov 3rd, 2004, 2:29pm » |
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I am laughing my ass off now, but I am also serious and I know other people have had to have this problem. I CAN'T eat or drink anymore fiber than I am already doing. And the werid thing is nothing (meds) are helping. I guess I am sorta FOS, no pun intended. It's funny but not that funny!!!! I am taking magnesium(SP)also, just whatever is on the bottle,should I try upping that. Nani, I don't know anyone around here who does that. Can't wait for the guys to reply on this one, should be intresting though.
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Re: Not a pleasant subject,BUT here's GOES
« Reply #7 on: Nov 3rd, 2004, 3:04pm » |
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Trick from my mama: eat plums; fresh or dry, both will do.
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« Reply #8 on: Nov 3rd, 2004, 3:09pm » |
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Ladies,
I tryed prunes, high fiber cereal, broc, any wheat, lots of water, and laxtives. Nothing is helping (a tiny bit) I am on magnesium but maybe I need to up it, I am just taking what the bottle says. But I don't know much about mag, like how much is too much. Anyone know???There's only one thing I haven't tryed and I am not doing that guys!!!!
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Hey, Where's good old Don when you need him, he should know how to handle this one!!!LMAO!!!
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Re: Not a pleasant subject,BUT here's GOES
« Reply #10 on: Nov 3rd, 2004, 3:39pm » |
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Common problem. Caused me to quit taking the stuff.
Dr. Robinson, at the Vancouver convention, said that they could give those of us with this problem some "industrial strength" stuff that was sure to get things moving. See if you can get your Dr. to prescribe some draino over the phone.
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« Reply #11 on: Nov 3rd, 2004, 5:26pm » |
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Sounds good and all but what about long term? Since I'm chronic how safe is that to do all the time?? GEE, can't win, stopping hurts so much on one and now the end is messed up!!! Go figure???LOL!!!
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« Reply #12 on: Nov 3rd, 2004, 6:45pm » |
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Sorry Becky...don's FULL of CHit, as far as I can tell he's never empty of it.
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« Reply #13 on: Nov 3rd, 2004, 7:09pm » |
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epsom salt not for long term use
they have magnisium & lemon juice at wallmart
where the laxitive are and water 1 gallon before lunch
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Re: Not a pleasant subject,BUT here's GOES
« Reply #14 on: Nov 3rd, 2004, 9:55pm » |
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All this constipation talk and medical remedilia is a hoot. Once you clean out the impacted specimen, eat a heaping bowl of chili every day. Not that crap from a store, or a package. We're talking the real deal here. If you can eat a heaping helping of my private recipe, and not have a colon blow from hell the next morning, you're a better man than my hemmoroids are.
Your rectum is your friend, eh......
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Re: Not a pleasant subject,BUT here's GOES
« Reply #16 on: Nov 3rd, 2004, 11:50pm » |
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Don't take laxatives . . .you'll depend on them . . .glycerine supositories work very well when things don't want to move . . .and your bowel doesn't start depending on them . . .buy the big jar (cheap ones) at wal-mart . . .and be ready for them to work in 5 minutes to 2 hours (they really do work!).
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Re: Not a pleasant subject,BUT here's GOES
« Reply #17 on: Nov 4th, 2004, 6:55am » |
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Well my  I tried those Atkins Friendly JELLY BEANS a small package but they went right through me and my Atkins Constipation without a problem.
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on Nov 4th, 2004, 6:55am, mynm156 wrote:Well my I tried those Atkins Friendly JELLY BEANS a small package but they went right through me and my Atkins Constipation without a problem.
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Yeah, some of those 'low-carb' foods use lots of sugar alcohols (xylitol, maltitol, sorbitol) - these are osmotic laxatives for many.
Did you try WWW - water, water, water? In some groups, the amount of water in a stool is limited by water intake - not sure if verap does this to some people, but it is cheap and easy to drink more water.
Quote: Eur J Clin Nutr. 2003 Dec;57 Suppl 2:S88-95.
Mild dehydration: a risk factor of constipation?
Arnaud MJ.
Constipation defined as changes in the frequency, volume, weight, consistency and ease of passage of the stool occurs in any age group. The most important factors known to promote constipation are reduced physical activity and inadequate dietary intake of fibres, carbohydrates and fluids. Fluid losses induced by diarrhoea and febrile illness alter water balance and promote constipation. When children increase their water consumption above their usual intake, no change in stool frequency and consistency was observed. The improvement of constipation by increasing water intake, therefore, may be effective in children only when voluntary fluid consumption is lower-than-normal for the child's age and activity level. In the elderly, low fluid intake, which may be indicative of hypohydration, was a cause of constipation and a significant relationship between liquid deprivation from 2500 to 500 ml per day and constipation was reported. Dehydration is also observed when saline laxatives are used for the treatment of constipation if fluid replacement is not maintained and may affect the efficacy of the treatment. While sulphate in drinking water does not appear to have a significant laxative effect, fluid intake and magnesium sulphate-rich mineral waters were shown to improve constipation in healthy infants. In conclusion, fluid loss and fluid restriction and thus de-or hypohydration increase constipation. It is thus important to maintain euhydration as a prevention of constipation. |
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Low fluid intake lowers stool output in healthy male volunteers.
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Anti M, Pignataro G, Armuzzi A, Valenti A, Iascone E, Marmo R, Lamazza A, Pretaroli AR, Pace V, Leo P, Castelli A, Gasbarrini G.
Water supplementation enhances the effect of high-fiber diet on stool frequency and laxative consumption in adult patients with functional constipation.
Hepatogastroenterology. 1998 May-Jun;45(21):727-32.
Chung BD, Parekh U, Sellin JH.
Effect of increased fluid intake on stool output in normal healthy volunteers.
J Clin Gastroenterol. 1999 Jan;28(1):29-32.
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Fiber will help 70% of the people, but for others, this problem can neurological, immunological, or electrolyte related. The gut has more serotonin than the brain. Anything that hits the endorphin receptors in the gut can slow things down (that is what immodium does). Try water and walking first.
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Well, everything came out alright(sort to speak) no pun intended!! I used some of your suggestions and I am fine for the time being. It sucks that I get something that helps me and then hurts me too. It's another trade off and I know which one I'll use!! VERAPAMIL!!! Thanks for all your help on such a unpleasant subject!!
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« Reply #22 on: Nov 4th, 2004, 11:53am » |
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