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(Message started by: BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Jan 17th, 2005, 9:18pm)
Title: Cannabis effects?
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Jan 17th, 2005, 9:18pm
Does anyone here know if cannabis has an effect at all on CH's?  Do people that smoke weed have more problems?  
My doc said that tobacco and alcohol have negative effects on CH and I was wondering if cannabis has an effect.
Thanks and PF wishes
BMonee
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by Kris_in_SJ on Jan 17th, 2005, 9:23pm
I believe there are a number of threads here about CH and how Pot affects them.  If memory serves - most people get pretty hard rebound HA's or it serves as a trigger for a full-blown CHA.  I'm not sure any have found it to be an abortive.  I'd suggest a search of the archives.

Kris
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by Kevin_M on Jan 17th, 2005, 9:29pm

on 01/17/05 at 21:18:07, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
Does anyone here know if cannabis has an effect at all on CH's


I'd suppose if it did, you'd have read much more about it on this "med and treatment" board here.  Hard to find a thread that mentions it.   I'd say "no effect" summing its use as a preventative or abortive.  


Kevin M
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by nani on Jan 17th, 2005, 9:31pm
I've seen it come up now and then...I think I agree that some found it a trigger, others said no effect either way. Can't remember anyone saying it helps.
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by Kevin_M on Jan 17th, 2005, 9:34pm

on 01/17/05 at 21:31:36, nani wrote:
Can't remember anyone saying it helps.


Yes, the point I was addressing.




Kevin M
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by nani on Jan 17th, 2005, 9:37pm
Oh.   [smiley=ohjez.gif]
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by Kevin_M on Jan 17th, 2005, 9:42pm
No, thanks for mentioning it, I didn't make it very clear.







Kevin M
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by nani on Jan 17th, 2005, 9:46pm
Not you, kev...my brain damage from all that cannabis during the early 70s.  ;)
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by IrnBru on Jan 18th, 2005, 6:47am
I have a friend that uses canabis very succesfully for pain releif from MS.

However 2 years ago during a bout of CH he suggest i try some.

I did, this resulted in me vommiting  then the devil returning only 20 minutes later with a showing of over 4 hours! my normal attack lasts on average 20 mins.

I havent tried it again, nor will

Jim
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by JJA on Jan 18th, 2005, 8:28am
I have read one or two people claim it helps CH.  I recall a post where someone said that it didn't abort the headache but made it a lot funnier???  The much more common experience is that it makes CH worse (while in cycle) which has been my experience.  


on 01/17/05 at 21:18:07, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
 Do people that smoke weed have more problems?  
Yes, legal problems, maybe a shorter attention span... [smiley=laugh.gif]  In reference to CH though, there's no reason to think that smoking cannabis out of cycle will make the CH worse in the long run...If that was what you were asking.  Of course there's no research on the subject.  

Jesse
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by Redrum on Jan 18th, 2005, 9:45am
It doesn't seem to effect my CH one way or the other but it does help me relax and return to life AFTER a bad one.
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by don on Jan 18th, 2005, 10:57am
Trigger.
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by guesst on Jan 18th, 2005, 1:34pm

on 01/18/05 at 10:57:03, don wrote:
Trigger.

Same here, and I tried to use it as an abortive once, took my ch right off the kip scale.  It was unbelievable.  I have never before or since had a more painfull ch.
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by Margi on Jan 18th, 2005, 2:46pm

on 01/18/05 at 10:57:03, don wrote:
Trigger.


same for my hubby.  Definite no-no in our house.
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by ccbiggsoo7 on Jan 18th, 2005, 11:47pm
never bothered me any!
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by Chillrmn1 on Jan 19th, 2005, 5:52am
Have tried while in cycle and yes, unfortunately it did trigger me and a pretty intense couple at that. Another well thought out plan that didn't work for me.
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by gearhead on Jan 23rd, 2005, 1:45am
As I recall from a time long ago and far away, cannabis can blunt the effects hallucinogenic drugs, take some of the rougher edges off the trip. (One of the reasons the hippies, etc., smoked so much grass in the '60's.)
[smiley=smokin.gif]

Have any of the psilocybin users tried cannabis for this purpose during their treatments?
[smiley=huh.gif]
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by sandie99 on Jan 23rd, 2005, 8:05am
Well, I used to have a landlady who liked to smoke her pot... a lot. I have never tried it, just the smoke from her doses was enough to give me painful CHs...
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by toolong on Jan 23rd, 2005, 1:46pm
Full blown kick ass trigger!!!! :(Wish I could say it helps,but It'll put me over the top as fast as a Yankee Candle Store :-*David
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by ccbiggsoo7 on Jan 24th, 2005, 11:03pm
Smoke anytime I wanted never had  it cause a ch.
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by Mr. Happy on Jan 25th, 2005, 1:45am

on 01/23/05 at 01:45:30, gearhead wrote:
(One of the reasons the hippies, etc., smoked so much grass in the '60's.)

Why, you little...........


on 01/23/05 at 01:45:30, gearhead wrote:
Have any of the psilocybin users tried cannabis for this purpose during their treatments?

Gee, now _there's_ a novel thought.
"Yes, your Honor, I did smoke pot. Once. But I didn't know what I was doing. I was high on mushrooms at the time."

60's hippies. Why, you little....
RJ
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by WherzRoony on Jan 25th, 2005, 11:09am
Definate TRIGGER!!!

But!! if you already have a really bad headache going, it will help ease the pain slightly, for me at least.

Then I discovered what you could do with a tank of welding oxygen, it worked every time.
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by EvertBoer on Jan 26th, 2005, 5:25pm
I'm a regular smoker, but have found that during a cluster cycle, I should lay off until the cycle is over. It definitely triggers CH for me (CH kicks in as soon as the cannabis effect leaves).
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by Sophie on Jan 27th, 2005, 3:07am
I think what we have here is the same old thing, no clear answer because we all react differantly to medications. Nothing seems to work for everybody.
Smoking is not a trigger for me. However; I did not indulge when I was taking triptans, beta blockers or Topamax, for fear of a conflict. And by the way, if you are taking Topamax you don't need anything else to get you stoned.
There are times when you need something to relieve the worry and depression with CH and I feel smoking can improve ones outlook temporarily----and I too have wondered about the alternitive treatment and if cannabis would help if anxiety set in during a dose???
                                             Sophie
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by JJA on Jan 27th, 2005, 9:02am

on 01/27/05 at 03:07:27, Sophie wrote:
and I too have wondered about the alternitive treatment and if cannabis would help if anxiety set in during a dose???

I, uhhh, read somewhere...yeah that's it.... that this won't help.  Of course, like you said everyone's different.

Jesse
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by vietvet2tours on Jan 27th, 2005, 6:48pm
Big trigger
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by euphoricdream on Jan 29th, 2005, 3:23am
Even though I'm a hard core stoner, the ganja doesn't seem to be a trigger for me. I get high right after a CH to avoid the depression associated with the "f%cker".
Back in 98 I quit smoking cigs. Every cycle I've had since then (including this one) has been alot more bareable (could be coincidence). Makes me wonder if my cycles would be even less painful overall if I were to stop smoking weed to. Maybe I'll try it one day...NOT  :)
Oh no here comes a headache...

YES YES...I'll quit weed........ANYF&CKINGTHINGPLEASEHELPGODNOW

goodbye
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by Quiet1 on Jan 31st, 2005, 6:26am
Had terrible CH behind weed. It is a vasodiolater. That's what makes your eyes red(among other things). As was said, different effects on different people, but would bet that it exacerbates in most cases.
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by erickthered on Feb 1st, 2005, 8:05am
I just got home after having a nice dance with the devil at work  :-/  and I find that its not a trigger for me, it does help me cope or at least dull the after pain I get from trying to shove my finger through my skull  ;)
Title: Re: Cannabis effects?
Post by Pegase on Feb 3rd, 2005, 9:19pm
Absolutly not a trigger for me and IM almost a daily smoker... well... when it's free and you got plently what a guy can do??? 8)

I dont drink anymore... I dont want to die sinless :)


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