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« on: Apr 21st, 2006, 1:33pm »
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hi  
we just got back from the hospital where Michael gets his almost weekly GLOA therapy (looong needle stuck into him entering at his throat ending up at the top of the spine by his head) we've been doing this for over six months now and were almost certain this is what helped him reduce the pain levels .....
as last weeks therapy did not do any good and his hits got stronger and more frequent the anesthesiologist and 'pain therapist' suggested we stop and see how it develops without.
 
NOW: his suggestion: we might see a friend of his - a doctor at the same hospital who has learned hypnosis as one of her side kicks and according to him, has had some very good results using hypnosis as a more or less 'self administered hypnosis' she initiates for patients who suffer from any kind of pains.  
 
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE GETTING HIS CH TO TRY THIS???
 
I have an uncle in my family who does this ....but every mention of him is shrugged off immediately - I understand that he refuses to even try - being part of the family and all......
 
but after all: it's worth a try isn't it?? prerogative for something like this to work is however: he needs to believe in it - mind over body you say i believe.....
 
would welcome any kind of experiences anynody made with this subject...
 
wish you all a great weekend!
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Re: hypnosis (self hypnosis)
« Reply #1 on: Apr 21st, 2006, 6:59pm »
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Marta,  
 
I have never heard of this GLOA therapy   you speak of.  It sounds almost sadistic to me.  Could you expound a little more on what this is supposed to do to relieve the pain of cluster headaches or anyting else for that matter?
 
Cluster headaches are caused by a deformed hypothalmus gland which results in Seratonin levels going haywire.   I would have a hard time believing that hypnosis could change that.    But then again I have been wrong before and I know that all of us will try almost anything.
 
Some people I know have tried vinegar and blue cheese smeared all over their chest.  Might make a great salad dressing but I hardly think it would do squat for a CH.
 
 
By the way.........I cannot wait to meet you in Milwaukee.   Michael speaks so highly of you and he needs to be hugged for what he sent me to help others with.   Wink
 
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« Reply #2 on: Apr 22nd, 2006, 1:44pm »
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Hi Linda
 
we've just sent you via e-mail a few medical articles about GLOA - hope they make sense as we ran them through a translator from German to English....
 
Thanks for your feedback on above topic
 
this MIND OVER BODY -thing simply has always impressed and intrigued me - and knowing my hubby i just think if someone can handle his pain through his mind - he would be the one who could do it.
Would be nice to hear if somebody has had any experiences with this.
 
 
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« Reply #3 on: May 28th, 2006, 8:45am »
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well, Michael has an appointment June 9th with the anesthesiologist who will try through Hypnosis to:
 
-> focus: to be able to bear the pain and frustration - but foremost to try and reduce his fright of getting hit anytime, anywhere
 
I'll keep who ever is interested posted on the results - maybe by the time he goes to the convention he can give you all some more info about it.......I'm just hoping that it will WORK!!!
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Re: hypnosis (self hypnosis)
« Reply #4 on: May 28th, 2006, 10:33am »
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GLOA is used primarily in the treatment of trigeminal neuralgia.  A needle is introduced through the front of the neck and drugs are injected into the site.  It is basically a form of acupuncture (I wasn't able to find anything about GLOA therapy and ch).  
 
Btw, I didn't know that ch is caused by a deformed hypothalmus (I thought that it was a theory).
 
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« Reply #5 on: Aug 9th, 2006, 6:19pm »
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my fiance swears by hypnosis, he even learned self hypnosis, it worked for a while.  Then he stated to let it slip and got demotivated.  It's hard to hypnotise yourself when your head hurts so bad you wanna die.  Maybe a proffesional hypnotist is the way to go.  Good luck, hope it works out.
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Re: hypnosis (self hypnosis)
« Reply #6 on: Aug 9th, 2006, 7:43pm »
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A fellow named "CHvsTN" posted a note about self-hypnosis in the "Coping" thread over on the CH Specific Board.  Sounds as if he may know something about it.
 
I've never been able to hypnotize myself into enough of a trance to make the pain go away or render it unnoticeable.  I've tried it, along with pretty much everything else one might think of.
 
I can make myself relax, stop pacing, and sit, and then distract myself from the focal point of the pain to some extent, but that's about it.  Only works for me on anything under a Kip 8, though.  
 
My experience with self-hypnosis, for what it's worth.
 
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« Reply #7 on: Sep 29th, 2006, 4:32pm »
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after his 4th visit within the last 4 month; this is what Michael, my husband,  posted:  
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I can say that now when my head gives me a rough time, and my unwelcome
dates with the beast is a multiple daily dance, I have gained through this treatment:
tools to deal better and more efficiently with the inevitable said effects like anxiety
and other psychologically unwelcome situations. I can’t say that I have gained total
control over my fears or anxieties, but I do have a much easyer time dealing with
the situation.
 
In now way am I advocating or promoting any type of treatment!
 
It’s just that sleep is coming better and easier even so I know I will be kicked out of
sleep after an hour or so….. and the mood swings are mostly under control: in a very short sentence:
Life is even more beautiful for my family and me, even if I am going trough rough times....
_______________________
 
==> me and the kids have also noticed the same on him; he deals with the hits and whats really getting him: the shadows - alot better than 4 month ago - he seems to have put his CH in 2nd place in his life now - we the familiy are back to being No. 1   Smiley
 
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Re: hypnosis (self hypnosis)
« Reply #8 on: Sep 30th, 2006, 8:48am »
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on Sep 29th, 2006, 4:32pm, wildhaus_wife wrote:
after his 4th visit within the last 4 month; this is what Michael, my husband,  posted:  
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I can say that now when my head gives me a rough time, and my unwelcome
dates with the beast is a multiple daily dance, I have gained through this treatment:
tools to deal better and more efficiently with the inevitable said effects like anxiety
and other psychologically unwelcome situations. I can’t say that I have gained total
control over my fears or anxieties, but I do have a much easyer time dealing with
the situation.
 
In now way am I advocating or promoting any type of treatment!
 
It’s just that sleep is coming better and easier even so I know I will be kicked out of
sleep after an hour or so….. and the mood swings are mostly under control: in a very short sentence:
Life is even more beautiful for my family and me, even if I am going trough rough times....
_______________________
 
==> me and the kids have also noticed the same on him; he deals with the hits and whats really getting him: the shadows - alot better than 4 month ago - he seems to have put his CH in 2nd place in his life now - we the familiy are back to being No. 1   Smiley
 
Marta

 
 
That is wonderful to hear Marta ! Congratulations to both of you for having learnt how to deal with the condition as a winner, a warrior and not a victim.
 
Painfree wishes and prayers to you all.
 
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