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Message started by catlind on Jul 27th, 2008 at 11:22pm

Title: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by catlind on Jul 27th, 2008 at 11:22pm
in the hopes of getting some answers as to how serious things are with Ayden's right ventricular hypertrophy and whether it's a result of his severe lung infection back in May that may have led to pulmonary hypertension.

Since we can't get the military health care system to work with us, we are going to have to work around the system.

My Pediatrician is what I consider the best on the planet, so we are going in to talk to her about the nature of the diagnosis and if Ayden falls under the severe category and have her refer us over to Children's hospital so we can get the echo cardiogram done and see a pediatric cardiologist to have the severity of the RVH assessed.

Wish us luck, send us prayers, vibes, juju, strength and anything else you can spare.

Most of all, please plead with whatever deity or religious affiliation you have to let this be a false RVH diagnosis, and that it's not from pulmonary hypertension.  I honestly don't think I can bear to face the thought that I would only have at most 2 1/2 years left with my baby.

Thanks everyone for all the PM's, calls and emails.  You've all helped me a great deal in many ways.

Cat

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by Mastifflvr28 on Jul 27th, 2008 at 11:43pm
Of course HUGE positive vibes are going up Cat!!
Hoping for the best for ya!
Mast

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by Cathi_Pierce on Jul 28th, 2008 at 12:08am
My God, Cat. In my wildest dreams I cannot imagine going through what you are.
I'll pull out all I've got in my wishes/prayers/juju supply and I'll start streaming them all your way!
My heart goes with you as well....stay strong.....this CANNOT  be happening!
Huge chugs to you and yours,
Cathi

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by George_J on Jul 28th, 2008 at 1:16am
Cat--all the very best we can send your way.  I can't even fathom what you're going through right now.

Please let us know how things go tomorrow.

All the best,

George

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by sandie99 on Jul 28th, 2008 at 2:55am
Cat,

prayers are on their way. I hope it goes well. :)

Sanna

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by deltadarlin on Jul 28th, 2008 at 8:10am
Will be thinking about you and Ayden today.

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by catlind on Jul 28th, 2008 at 11:30am
We're off to children's hospital, will update when we get home.

Thanks again to everyone for the support!

I'm feeling pretty positive - I know the kinds of miracles this family can make happen :)

Cat

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by artonio7 on Jul 28th, 2008 at 11:59am
Cat... I'm keeping you guys in my thoughts and prayers.

with warm regards,
Tony

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by mummymac on Jul 28th, 2008 at 1:41pm
Cat
I am hoping everything went well for you all, extra big juju's  and special Angel hugs for you all. I have been through scarey times with my girl and know how hard it is .

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by Tiannia on Jul 28th, 2008 at 1:49pm
Cat,

You know that I am here for you.  Call me if you need anything.

Ayden is in my thoughts and prayers.  Get double and triple checked for everything.  

You will get the military ins figured out too.  If anyone can make the different systems talk to eac hother it is you.  

Love and Light, my sister
Blessed Be
Tia

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by Jackie on Jul 28th, 2008 at 3:26pm
Holding my breath here, Cat......

BIG Vibes, Positive Thoughts and Prayers...

Keep us updated when you can.

You know where I am if you need me

Much Love to you, Sweetie.
Jackie/your other Mom

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by cash5542 on Jul 28th, 2008 at 6:13pm
Anxiously waiting for news how your docotr's visit went. I hope it was more optimisitic!
Charlotte

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by midwestbeth on Jul 28th, 2008 at 6:18pm
Positive thoughts, prayers and vibes that everything went well today.

Beth

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by Melissa on Jul 28th, 2008 at 6:34pm
Waiting to hear Cat and keeping fingers crossed for Ayden!!

love,
:)mel

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by Charlie on Jul 28th, 2008 at 6:35pm
Lots of vibes for all of you.

Post more when you can.  Damn!

Charlie

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by tessistired on Jul 28th, 2008 at 7:24pm
Cat I am so sorry to hear about your boy and this horrible situation.  I am praying for him and you and the rest of your family that you have the strength to deal with anything and the power of healing.  

All the best

Tess

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by LeLimey on Jul 28th, 2008 at 7:29pm
Cat check your pm's - much love Helen xxx

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by deltadarlin on Jul 28th, 2008 at 8:46pm
Call me tomorrow afternoon (I'll be around after 6 CST).

Carolyn

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by Jonny on Jul 28th, 2008 at 8:48pm
Count me in!!!

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by DonnaH_again on Jul 28th, 2008 at 11:44pm
Anxiously awaiting news.  

Prayers and hugs,
Donna

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by ClusterChuck on Jul 29th, 2008 at 12:03am
Cat, I am getting a bit worried that it is so late, and you have not been able to post an update ...

I know you will, when you can.  Just know how many are pulling and praying for your and you child ...

We DO care.

Even Mean Ole Crotchety ME!

Chuck

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by catlind on Jul 29th, 2008 at 2:35am
My apologies for not updating sooner.

We left just after 10:30 for children's hospital.  By the time we finished everything and got back home it was 4 p.m.  Things did NOT go well.  The reason we didn't go in on the weekend was because we knew there was a certain doc on that is less than useless.  so we waited and tried to get into the pediatrician but she was booked solid.  we were
told that if his symptoms worsened or he developed new ones, such as fatigue, a cough, or more dizziness and fainting.  He did, so when we couldn't see the ped, we went to children's ER.  Just our luck, Dr. Jensen, who is less than useless was still on duty.  

The triage nurse checked him over and we told her what was going on and that he'd had 3 ekg's all showing RVH (right ventricular hypertrophy) and told her about the family trend to congenital heart defects.  She said that when they brought the cardiologist down to tell him about him about it.

We were taken straight into a room, and the nurse came in and hooked him up on a monitor (standard procedure when this type of illness) and while she was taking his vitals his respirations dropped to 11, then to 9 alarms were going off like crazy, but I managed to stay calm (not an easy feat let me tell ya!).  Well I told her all about
everything too, and she too said that when cardio came down to make sure to tell them about the congenital heart defects that are a familial trend.

Then the waste of skin doc enters.  We tell him what's going on, why we were at the ER and not at his docs (cause she couldn't see him and his symptoms were worsening and she told us to go there) WE told him all about the EKGs ALL FUCKING 3 OF THEM, and that they all showed RVH and that he'd had a severe lung infection with bronchitis back in
May and there was concern that it may be a pulmonary hypertension problem causing the RVH.  He flat out told us that if we had come there to have a cardiologist come down and look at him then we had wasted everyone's time because that wasn't going to happen........ :o  I was flabbergasted.  Anyone who knows me, knows it's hard to get me
in a spot where I'm speechless.  

We explained that we were moving and would be leaving on the 4th of Aug and that was why we couldn't get a standard appt because no one could get us in that quick, and what we needed done was an echocardiogram so we could confirm that the RVH was a valid
diagnosis or that it was one of those false dx that happens to be a normal abnormal.  

He didn't hear a word I said.  The doc sent him over for a chest Xray, and Clark went with him (Ayden wanted Daddy to go), and after they got back, I went ahead and left the room to go to the bathroom and get a drink.  When I got back, Clark told me the doc had been in and had said, and I quote "his x-ray looks GREAT, although there is a slight
hyper inflation of the lung".  I think I'd be in jail right now if I'd been in the room when he said that. Poor Clark had to suffer my wrath instead as I stood in the room yelling that NO SHIT there's hyper inflation of the lung, they think the RVH is caused by pulmonary hypertension - fucking hello - that is increased lung pressure and size!!!

He told us that he could get us an appt with the cardio clinic on the 8th of Aug - FUCKING HELLO I just told him we were leaving the state on the 4th.  So he said he told us they held clinic every Friday and he had called up and was trying to find a way to fit us in.  After waiting a while, he came back in and said they weren't calling him back, so there was no point us waiting there, he'd give us the clinic # and would call us as soon as he heard anything about them fitting us in.  I left the hospital to wait in the van to protect anyone from physical harm while Clark waited for the nurse to give him the info.  During that time, Ayden's respirations dropped again and his ekg set off alarms.

We then went straight to the base to the tryandgetcare tricare office, and I pled my case with them AGAIN (adding in the full boo hoos and tears).  Clark talked to them the first time, without me present.

I explained what we came up against, that our servicing base was in Charleston SC who is part of tricare South region, we are here in Omaha and part of tricare West region, and Asheville NC is part of tricare North region.  Dr. Whitcomb, my pediatrician has already offered to write the referral so that Ayden can see a pediatric cardiologist as soon as we get to NC - however after talking to the various agencies, we found out that would not be accepted because of the different regions, and also because there is only ONE pediatric cardiologist in a 50-100 mile radius of Asheville, and oh yes, he IS NOT a network provider *SCREAM*  That means we have to get to Asheville, get a pediatrician, get said pediatrician to write a referral, then it has to go to review to see if they will approve a non network provider, typically takes about 6 weeks, and that's IF THEY APPROVE it, if they don't it has to go through appeals process, and then
if we do win and get to see the cardio, because he's the only one it will take up to 4-6 weeks to get an appt.  

Keep in mind, if the right ventricular hypertrophy is in fact caused by pulmonary hypertension - primary or secondary - it is already at a late stage diagnosis and is has a mortality and morbidity rate with survival rates lasting no more than 2.5 years.  

And when diagnosed in children, it is diagnosed between 2 and 8 and the later it is found, and if fainting and passing out is present, that is a very high indicator for risk of sudden death.  So that kind of lenghty delay in even seeing a cardio for further diagnostic testing and beginning treatment is almost equivalent to a death sentence.

We got home and Alex (our oldest son) had taken a message from the cardio center (who we learned when we were at the tricare office is the ONLY one in Omaha) and Clark called them back only to learn that the dipshit doctor at childrens had scheduled Ayden for ANOTHER  FUCKING EKG - like the 3 he's had weren't enough.  Fortunately my husband is a very wise man and told me nothing of this while I raced around the house attempting to get it ready for the packers to show up at 8 a.m. (because the moving company REFUSES to delay even by half a day) and told them that what we need is an echo to confirm the RVH and it's cause, or confirm that it's a false RVH reading.  He then
got ahold of our pediatrician, got the referral done, got her send copies of his blood work and EKGs over and had the cardio clinic get the copies and reports of the chest x-ray and we are FINALLY going to get the test done that we need so we know what we are dealing with for sure.  

I have a follow up appt at 4 p.m. with Dr. Whitcomb, our pediatrician to go over what we know, and to have a letter written up with all the info on it, and a referral so that when we get to NC we should be able to get straight in to see someone who can treat Ayden.

So that's the War and Peace version of my day.  Of course I still have to deal with the movers and I still have to find time in here somewhere to get over to the schools and get copies of all the kids records, then get to all the various doctors and specialists and get copies of our medical records and then try not to worry about my Mom going in
for the breast biopsy of the suspected malignant lump which she has been trying to have taken care of for 2 years now - and to add some more excitement to it all, when they did the chest x-ray on her for anasthesia, they found a suspicious mass - welcome to socialized medicine, my Mom lives in Canada.

But on the bright side of the story, my eldest son Alex, is now doing superb, he has completely outgrown his emotional issues of his 9th grade year, and he's turned into this really cool person.  His clusters are so far well controlled with O2 and we are getting him set up with one of Life Gas' masks and hopefully a demand valve and his
pediatricain wrote him up his letter of medical necessity for O2 and his prescription for it so that we can get set up with Linde as soon as we get to NC.

Ok, that about covers everything, I am starting to feel like Dave E and my Tolstoy versions....

THank you to EVERYONE for all your support and help.

*hugs*

Cat

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by catlind on Jul 29th, 2008 at 2:39am

ClusterChuck wrote on Jul 29th, 2008 at 12:03am:
Cat, I am getting a bit worried that it is so late, and you have not been able to post an update ...

I know you will, when you can.  Just know how many are pulling and praying for your and you child ...

We DO care.

Even Mean Ole Crotchety ME!

Chuck



Sorry Chuck, and everyone else.  My day has been ... well it's just been.  I've posted the entire war and peace update.

Thank you all for pulling for us, it means  more than I can ever put into words.  I never dreamed I would have to ever utter the words "my son may die"  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

And to have what seems like EVERY agency under the sun working AGAINST us has just about pushed me over the edge...that is if there was any edge left for me to fall over.

I expect I will be admitted to a mental institute as soon as we get to NC. The only reason I haven't had a full break down already is because SOMEONE has to keep things going until the move is over.

Thanks again Chuck, your words mean more than you can know.

Cat

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by George_J on Jul 29th, 2008 at 2:50am
Hang in there, Cat, until you get some answers and a resolution.  If anyone is able to hold it together, I know that you can.  You eat tacks for breakfast and nails for lunch.  Your son needs an advocate, and you're just the person to do it.  I KNOW you won't break down.

We're all pulling for you.  

Best wishes,

George

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by catlind on Jul 29th, 2008 at 3:12am
Thanks George, not sure about the tacks and nails, but I'll tell ya, today I was spitting out fire and missiles to anyone who got in my way. I pulled out every stop...I turned on the tears when needed and I turned on the gunfire when needed.  I've always said, don't fuck with me and mine.  

Well people can mess with me and I'll put up with it, but if anyone messes with my kids, especially when they endanger their safety, then Hell and the Devil himself turn and run for the hills in fear.  

Now I just have to finish getting the house ready for the movers to come and pack.  I've still got 6 hours before they show up  :-/

Maybe I'll just go to bed and they can just bloody well deal with the mess!

Cat

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by artonio7 on Jul 29th, 2008 at 11:46am
[smiley=hug.gif] Praying that everything will work out for the best.

with warm regards,
Tony

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by LeLimey on Jul 29th, 2008 at 11:50am
Cat - oh my lovely, lovely friend.. no words just tears and love from me.

Bear in mind, I'm now armed and dangerous thanks to Goatie, I can drive from one end of the Adirondacks back to home and I'm not afraid of nuffink.

You need us, we're there. In body, in mind, in spirit. You have all of us right there with you whenever you need us I promise.

lots of love
helen xxx

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by catlind on Jul 29th, 2008 at 4:44pm
Ok latest update, we got Ayden's echocardiogram done this morning, and we talked with the tech who said the echo looked good but that it had to read by the cardiologist.  The packers showed up and were able to get my entire house packed except the garage and the master bedroom (it's dump central for stuff we aren't sure what we are doing with yet)

Of course I promised a couple different people that I was going straight to bed to get some sleep and rest right after I was done my post last night - that didn't work out.  I went into the house and saw a bazillion things that needed to be done before 8 a.m. so I set about doing them.  Then I took a break and came out to the deck to have a smoke and read a bit somewhere around 5:30ish- and that's where Clark found me with my head on the patio table sound asleep at 7 a.m.

We are walking out the door in 5 min. to go to the appointment with the pediatrician and find out exactly how Ayden is doing.  His cough is much much worse today, and he is very tired which is unusual for him.  

I will post as soon as we get back and have some answers from Dr. Whitcomb about whether Ayden's condition is very serious, or if it's a false reading and a normal abnormality along with the rest of us who all have congenital or hereditary cardiac defects or abnormalities.

Thank you all so much for the love and support.  I can feel a miracle working :)

Cat

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by catlind on Jul 29th, 2008 at 8:27pm
Sorry I didn't update sooner, unfortunately I have 2 teenagers who decided that everything in their lives suddenly became an absolute emergency and required my immediate and undivided attention........

They were hungry  [smiley=huh.gif]

Well there's good news and there's bad news.




















The good news is that the echo was 100% accurate and the EKG was a false read!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [smiley=shore.gif]  [smiley=me&mb.gif]  [smiley=hey.gif]  [smiley=happy.gif] It turns out that sure enough, Ayden is following in the footsteps of the family defects.  We seriously need some chlorine in this gene pool!!  I have never been so relieved in my life.  When the tech this morning said the echo looked good, I had high hopes, but wasn't going to be fully satisfied until I heard it straight from the lips of Dr. Whitcomb, the God of Pediatricians (IMO of course).  Because of the genetics she is writing a letter to go with him to NC to whoever takes over his care there because there's a possibility he may have or be prone to asthma and high cholesterol as well as all sorts of autoimmune issues HOWEVER he does NOT have right ventricular hypertrophy caused by pulmonary hypertension - he does NOT have RVH AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am positive that we got the results we wanted and needed as a direct result from the miracles that the love, support, prayers, vibes, juju and positive energy that the angels of this family have provided in what was most certainly my most dire and terrifying nightmare of my life.
[smiley=engel017.gif] [smiley=engel017.gif]


Now the bad news.....

Ayden has a pretty bad sinus infection  ;D ::)   Some antibiotics and some Nasonex and the Doc says he'll be right as rain and back to being his energetic self within 48 hours :) :) :) :) :)

Thank you everyone, I love you all, and no matter how many thank you's I write on this screen or say to you, they will never be enough.  I truly believe that it is all of you and the love being sent to Ayden that turned that RVH on his EKG into nothing more than a normal abnormal reading as the doc put it.

Much love and thanks
Cat

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by George_J on Jul 29th, 2008 at 8:37pm
That...is...the...BEST NEWS!!!!!

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

FAM-DAM-TASTIC!!!!!

...now get this move behind you, so you can relax a little.

All the best,

George


Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by tessistired on Jul 29th, 2008 at 8:39pm
Cat,

I am so happy for you and your family and Ayden!!!!! [smiley=sayyes.gif] [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gi

That boy is certainly being watched over and now maybe you can rest a little easier!

Many blessings to you and yours!

Tess

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Jul 29th, 2008 at 8:39pm
:-*

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by Jackie on Jul 29th, 2008 at 8:48pm
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Much Love to you all, Cat...

Jackie/your other Mom


Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by LeLimey on Jul 29th, 2008 at 8:52pm
Thank God - and here's wishing a speedy karma on certain doctor's who can't seem to distinguish between hypocritic and hippocratic...

love
Helen xxx

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by ClusterChuck on Jul 29th, 2008 at 8:54pm
WOOHOO!!!
[smiley=shore.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=thumb.gif] [smiley=sayyes.gif] [smiley=headbanger.gif]


I am not ashamed to say that tears are streaming down my cheeks with this news.  Tears of joy and relief!

Who would EVER suspect that I would be cheering and jumping for joy, that one of our children has a severe sinus infection?!?!

You have made my day, Cat!  Hell you made my whole MONTH!!

Chuck

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by sandie99 on Jul 30th, 2008 at 3:15am
Great news! :)
I hope that the sinus infection is healed soon.

Hugs,
Sanna

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by deltadarlin on Jul 30th, 2008 at 8:36am
YES!

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by Tiannia on Jul 30th, 2008 at 2:30pm
Sweet Goddess.  

Chuck is not the only one crying.  

Not that I need to ask you to do this, but give that little boy a huge hug.

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Now please make sure that you take care of yourself too.  I know the move is going to take a lot out of you, but please take a little time to get your head around everything that has happened.  

Blessed be, my sister.
Call me if you need anything.  I am sure that I can make up some more incense for you if you want it for the new place.
Let me know
Tia

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by Jean on Jul 30th, 2008 at 2:51pm
Another prayer answered!   Blessings to you and your family.   I can't help but be so angry that you all were put through all that.  I can't believe that any doctor would give  such a terrible Rx with out being positive!   Shame on them!

I am so glad it all worked out.

Hugs,

Jeannie

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by Karla on Jul 30th, 2008 at 4:55pm
Oh Cat I am so relieved beyond words and am crying with relief that your son doesn't have heart problems.  Please take care of yourself now and rest.  

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by mummymac on Jul 30th, 2008 at 5:08pm
Add my tears to the pool of many. Happy happy news indeed, in fact a bloody wonderful end to this story, hope you can all enjoy the move now and settle into your new home. :) :) :)

Title: Re: Off to see the doc about Aydens condition tomorrow
Post by Charlie on Jul 30th, 2008 at 7:16pm
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