Ok, I'm in a dilemma.  I had an appt. for Lily to get the HPV vaccine, but after talking with my grandma, I decided to cancel it.  The vaccine has only been around for 5 years, so I don't know the long term effects, but I do know that some of the girls get nausea & dizzy from the shot itself.  

Has anyone else had their daughter get vaccinated?  If not, what were the reasons you didn't?

I just don't know what to do... :-/

Probably no harm in waiting until she gets a little older if you're so inclined, Mel.  

Best,

George

Melly PLEASE be VERY carefully giving Lily that vaccine. The Gardicil(sp?) vaccine has had VERY serious side effects on a lot of girls. Not only the nausea and dizziness but fainting, extremly sore on the side of the injection for several days, loss of mobility in that limb, and not to be blunt but even paralization and about 18(if I remember correctly) fatalities. My mom wanted me too to get that shot and when I did my research I said no way flat out. The side effects are to sever and there hasn't been enough testing on it to really determine the clearly. PLEASE be VERY careful giving her that shot. Obviously it's your choice in the end but that's my [smiley=twocents.gif] for the day. Best of luck hun.

Broken

Mel,

 
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cervical cancer vaccine that helps protect against 4 types of human papillomavirus (HPV): 2 types that cause 70% of cervical cancer cases, and 2 more types that cause 90% of genital warts cases.

In my opinion, what it protects a girl from...far out-weighs a little dizziness or nausea.  Her Doctor should be able to explain the pros and cons to you.  

I have had both of my daughters vacinated with the HPV Vaccine.  Other than a sore arm for the shot, neither one of them had any side effects.  Check and make sure your insurance covers the cost, if they do not, you will be out alot of $$$.....it is an expensive vaccine.

I'm with Linda, the benefits far outweigh the risks.

Beth

Mel,
My daughter Jessi has had two of the three shots in the series.  The last one is still a few months away.  I debated long and hard about this, because I'm usually pretty cautious about all the drugs you see heavily promoted on television commercials and print ads.  I made an exception in this case based on as much research as I had time to do.  I tend to agree with Linda on this one, that the rewards outweigh the risks--at least in my daughter's case.  So far, a sore arm is all she has experienced from the shots.  Ultimately, it's still a decision between you and Lily with your doctor's imput.

BTW, when I was really little, my mom had to make the same kind of decision regarding the brand new polio vaccine--I'm sure glad she decided to go ahead with it.  ;D

Patti

I don't know.  I can't help but think in the back of my mind, "what if?".  What if she happens to be the one who ends up with blood clots, and in the hospital with paralysis, or God forbid, something worse?  

It's a series of 3 shots that is up to age 26.  Lily is 13, will be 14 in Oct.  I am thinking of waiting a few more years, maybe 3, until making that appointment again.  I want to know what more adverse effects will/will not be coming from this vaccine.

I trust the CDC only so far.  They were right on some things, but no one is right on everything.  

BTW, when flu shots become mandatory, I'm leaving the country... :-/

I have not gotten to the point of getting my daughter that.  She is 11, so I have some time.  I think that it is a good thing, but Shara is horrible with shots. Anyone out in the lobby would have thought we where skinning her alive when she got her final vaccines before entering Kindergarten.

Tia

I had no say in this matter. Lisa came back from a check up last fall and told me her doctor had discussed it with her and the two of them felt it was a good decision. She was 22 and I wasn't even at the appointment. She got the final shot a few weeks ago and the following morning woke up with a horrible sore throat. I took her to the doctor to be sure it had nothig to do with the shot or strep. The doctor assured me this wasn't a side effect. If I had read what I did that day I would have been hesitant for her to get it too. I agree with all of the comments, positive and negative. Lisa's age made it hard to wait. It has to be done before 25. Go talk to her doctor. The side effects are a very small minority . That's the reason to get it but the reason I would hesitate is the newness of it, the fact it only prevents a few cancers and if your daughter isn't sexually active there is less rush.

We are getting so cautious with any injections with kids. With the rise of autism and the possibility of it being linked to shots, people are so much more worried. Yet it still isn't conclusive. I'm afraid on the other hand what will happen if we start backing off.

Good luck with your decision.

Charlotte

Untill there are more longituninal studies, I will not allow Meg to have it until she is 18 and makes the decision for herself.

As a DES daughter, and having suffered some of the more serious effects of a drug given to my mother, I'm not inclined to decide the potential future health of my Grandchildren.  

I HAD early intervention of early stage cervical cancer at age 25.  It's one of the DES risks.  Another risk is that of weakend vacular systems on the uterus and surrounding organs.

What Gardasil my have shown to prevent may be the lesser of the worries than what it may cause.  NO ONE KNOWS YET.  

What ever Meg chooses for herself, I can accept.  I can't accept the guilt if I forced her into something that effected her or her children's future health.

Redd wrote on Jul 29^th, 2008 at 8:50pm:

As a DES daughter, and having suffered some of the more serious effects of a drug given to my mother, I'm not inclined to decide the potential future health of my Grandchildren.

I've kept quiet about this because I don't have a daughter and will not have to make this decision for my child.  
In this instance I have to agree with Redd not only because she and I are both DES daughters, but because I don't think there is enough information longitudinally, to recommend this vaccine as a course of action.

The "unintended consequences" of something like this need to be shaken out over decades rather than years.  With DES, it solved the immediate problem (repeated miscarriages), but the unintended consequences on the children (and sometimes grandchildren) of the mothers who used the drug are still being addressed and treated and are devastating to many.

I would rather an adult daughter make this decision for herself rather than have a parent decide for her while a minor.

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It is no easier when the adult daughter makes this decision. Reading your comments and Redd's, I am as frustrated about the shot as in the beginning. What ever anyone does, be sure to get as much information as possible.

Charlotte

Mooshie has had her series of shots. No problems, except for a meltdown just prior to the final one, LOL. I had to remind her that cancer hurts more than a shot.

Gardisil is a vaccine, not a drug. Mooshie's mom has HPV, and several cancer scares in the last 15 years. For me, the decision was a no brainer.

The problem I see with waiting is that it only takes one unprotected sexual experience to possibly contract HPV. I didn't want to take that chance.

nani wrote on Jul 30^th, 2008 at 9:50am:

The problem I see with waiting is that it only takes one unprotected sexual experience to possibly contract HPV. I didn't want to take that chance.

This is true, but she could also contract one of strains that the vaccine does not take care of.  The vaccine is no guarantee.

We sent Tabby to get the vaccine and upon an examination they found an anomaly. Turns out she had cervical cancer. It was found early, she had it removed in a procedure called a cone biopsy and during the last two check ups she showed no sign of it returning. I would recommend it, or at least having regular check ups.

Thank you so much everyone for your input.

It has helped me make a decision.

:)mel

and your decision is......

Linda_Howell wrote on Jul 30^th, 2008 at 2:03pm:

and your decision is......

That I'm going to wait with it.

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I'm glad to hear that Mel  

It took no time at all to find this aticle.  

As Pat said, and I can't agree strongly enough.  The long term unintended consequences are totally unknown at this time.  However the immediate effects and the statistics are stacking up against this vaccine.

I decided against having Teresa get this immunization because there's not enough info out there yet.

Ok, im dense, but could someone tell me how a chick gets cancer from unprotected sex?

I must have missed something in this thread, or, im just dense....LOL   :D

here is a start Jonny.

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Meg just came home from the ex's touting that he and his So are trying to tell her she HAS to get the vaccine.  I'm  not going to agree.  Meg is well educated and doesn't want it either.  She's read all the reports for and against.  She's a bright girl, and she has certain rights to determine what does and doesn't go into her body.  She is 16, and my opinion holds some, but little weight to her own research.

She doesn't want it.  Not because of what my history has been but because she doesn't want to risk being another statistic.  Her DES second generation risk is still being determined.   She already has very erradic menstral cycles, as I always had.  

She's no dummy, and is smart enough to make the determination.

We read over tis thread together.  Timing was perfect.  Fate hasn't failed us yet.

Thanks Mel for starting this thread.  It's been helpful for more than just you and Lily.

Hey Mel - I would be very careful of this vaccine. It looks like it was fast tracked by the FDA and it has only been out for a short peorid of time and all side effects are not known yet. If it was my choice, I would wait for some more hard data.

I don't disagree with the use of the vaccine.  I'm relatively sure that El will elect to get it (and I'll leave it up to her) before she goes off to college--just as she'll get the meningitis vaccine (which most colleges require these days).  She's already had the hep B series.  

That being said, the HPV vaccine is a relatively new one, and I see no urgency in giving it to Ava until she's a bit older.  She's only five months old, after all.

I think it's a good decision, Mel.

Best,

George

George, just to clarify, it would be for Lily, not Ava, who will be 14. ;)  

Thanks for posting this thread Mel.  

My daughter, Katie, has completed the series of HPV shots with no problems.  Jackie has only had the first.  After reading all the links, I am hesitant to take her to get the 2nd and 3rd shots in the series.  I will continue to read up on this.

I remember when the chickenpox vaccine came out.  I read up on that and decided that I did not want the girls to get that vaccine due to the fact that it is does not provide lifetime protection and chickenpox as an adult can have serious complications.  They both caught chickenpox and now are immune naturally.  The only complication was that Jackie had chickenpox at Christmas time and we were banned from everyones house.   :-/

Good for all the states that are saying no to the mandatory vacinations.  

Beth

wrote on Jul 31^st, 2008 at 8:10am:

The only complication was that Jackie had chickenpox at Christmas time and we were banned from everyones house.   :-/

That would be considered a positive thing on my side of the family. ;)

Has there been an actual rise in the instances of cervical cancer (and I dont' mean cases detected, but ?  If not, why the push for the vaccine?  If a girl/woman is having regular annual check-ups and PAP smears, cervical cancer is usually caught early on and extremely treatable.  One day I was with my daughter at her gyno and we were talking.  I asked him why Europeans didn't suggest early PAP smears (most every friend of mine in the UK didn't have their first PAP until they were 25, the age recommended).  Guess what his response was?  HPV.  It's not that prevalent in Europe.

As to the instances of Guillain-Barre Syndrome.  I had a friend who had this disease and we almost lost her.  She went from 160 pounds (she's 6 foot) to 90 pounds and spent 6 weeks in intensive care.  It took her months to even be able to feed herself and it was 6 months before she could walk again.  She will NEVER completely recover from the disease (it's been 12 years and she still has problems).

I'm sorry, I couldn't see giving my daughter this vaccine.

Ted works closely with drs and nurses and was discussing this at work the other day and this is what he found out...That statistically girls are becomming more and more sexually active at a younger age.  There has been a link found that girls who are sexually active at a young age have a higher risk of developing cervical cancer.  So that is why they are pushing this vacine.  Now if I had a daughter and she was sexually active I would probably push for this vacine.  However, if my daughter was NOT sexually active I would hold off on this vacine until such a time that she was.  But I agree with prior posts that as long as you get yearly check ups where it could be detected early you should be fine without it.  

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most every friend of mine in the UK didn't have their first PAP until they were 25

In Wales, it's now been lowered to 21. However, even after that it's every 3 years. Even though one of mine came back and I had to have the procedure to remove CIN 3 cells (possiblilty of them developing into pre-cancerous), I will now get checked once a year for 10 years.

Perhaps it also has something to do with the fact that our health system is free, so it can't afford to check everyone once a year??

Melissa wrote on Jul 31^st, 2008 at 7:26am:

George, just to clarify, it would be for Lily, not Ava, who will be 14. ;)

My bad.   [smiley=ops.gif]

Still not a bad idea to wait until she can decide for herself.  You did good, Mel.

Best,

George