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Message started by barry_sword on Aug 16th, 2008 at 9:51am

Title: Car Runs On Water?
Post by barry_sword on Aug 16th, 2008 at 9:51am
I do not know if you have seen or talked about this but a friend of mine on just sent this to me so I thought I would share and see what your opinions are about it. :-/

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Title: Re: Car Runs On Water?
Post by Jonny on Aug 16th, 2008 at 1:07pm
Sorry dude, but I aint starting no facebook account just to read the article....LOL  ;)

Title: Re: Car Runs On Water?
Post by barry_sword on Aug 16th, 2008 at 2:11pm
Sorry, computer dummy here, brain fart. ;D

Fixed it! :)


Title: Re: Car Runs On Water?
Post by AlienSpaceGuy on Aug 16th, 2008 at 3:42pm
It's something similar to cold fusion.


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Title: Re: Car Runs On Water?
Post by sailpappy on Aug 16th, 2008 at 4:51pm
Jonny,
      I have 9 hydrogen on demand generators built and will have them installed in my vehicles before the week-end is out, the fuel source is water.  Check it out for yourself, if you decide to build one I will sell you a share in my manual, it only cost $100.00 and its online, but check out the web site for yourself,  
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Title: Re: Car Runs On Water?
Post by Jonny on Aug 16th, 2008 at 5:16pm

Sailpappy wrote on Aug 16th, 2008 at 4:51pm:
if you decide to build one I will sell you a share in my manual        John


What is a "share"?

Edit to add: I dont care what a share is......Why dont you just give it to me?  ;)

Title: Re: Car Runs On Water?
Post by DonnaH_again on Aug 16th, 2008 at 5:20pm
Sailpappy....you're talking about hydrogen, right (?), and I think Ueli is too.

The title to this post is Cars run on water.

Again, I have only dial up on my computer, so I can't view the video.

Title: Re: Car Runs On Water?
Post by Brew on Aug 16th, 2008 at 5:23pm
Donna - If you can break the molecular bond of H2O, you have access to H and O.

Title: Re: Car Runs On Water?
Post by DonnaH_again on Aug 16th, 2008 at 5:34pm
Brew.

Hydrogen is not H2O.  If you want to get hydrogen from water and then use that H2 as a source of energy, you'll only get as much energy out of burning the H2 as you put into cracking the H2O.  And that's if your process of cracking and burning is perfect.

If you want a car to run on water, not energy plus water, you'd have to have some way of cracking water without using energy.  Then you'd be running on water.

Title: Re: Car Runs On Water?
Post by Brew on Aug 16th, 2008 at 6:36pm
Donna,

I'm not saying this contraption can do it. I'm merely saying, in theory, if the two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom in a molecule of water could be broken apart, there would simply be hydrogen and oxygen available for other use.

It would be a magnificent discovery - perhaps the most important of all time. Especially if the two elements were reunited after utilizing the energy. Start with water, end with water, and get net positive energy output in the process.

How cool would that be? Talk about breaking dependence on fossil fuels.

Title: Re: Car Runs On Water?
Post by fubar on Aug 16th, 2008 at 7:03pm

Sailpappy wrote on Aug 16th, 2008 at 4:51pm:
Jonny,
      I have 9 hydrogen on demand generators built and will have them installed in my vehicles before the week-end is out, the fuel source is water.  Check it out for yourself, if you decide to build one I will sell you a share in my manual, it only cost $100.00 and its online, but check out the web site for yourself,  
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John,

I would sure like to know what kind of results you get.  Will you please keep us updated.  I'd gladly even help pay for the manual just to know how your experience goes.


-Shawn

Title: Re: Car Runs On Water?
Post by AlienSpaceGuy on Aug 16th, 2008 at 9:08pm
Ueli is not taking about hydrogen, but about that crook Jimmy Klein who tries to hornswoggle innocent laypeople.
With some magic, but no energy input, he rearranges H2O to HHO, that gives of a lot of energy, better than the perpetual motion machine.

Water is so abundant, because it cannot be transformed into something with lower binding energy.

Snopes (START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or RegisterEND PRINTPAGE) comments on "HHO gas to replace oil?":
Comment: Supposedly, this guy Jimmy Klein has created a way to harvest energy from water. I wouldn't even bother asking how much truth is to this, since from what I know it takes more energy to separate hydrogen and oxygen from water, but this was on Fox news. I'm really curious about this...


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Title: Re: Car Runs On Water?
Post by Jonny on Aug 16th, 2008 at 9:31pm
The question is 'Why the fuck dont we have now????"

Im on that guy Uelis team!  8-)


Title: Re: Car Runs On Water?
Post by sailpappy on Aug 16th, 2008 at 9:40pm
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Title: Re: Car Runs On Water?
Post by [johnny] on Aug 16th, 2008 at 9:51pm
i posted something about water powered cars a while back. stan meyer invented the water car lived a few miles from me before he was poisoned at the crackerbarrel in grove city oh. the great thing about this technology is that it can be adapted to old cars and trucks.

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Title: Re: Car Runs On Water?
Post by jace77 on Aug 16th, 2008 at 10:05pm

-johnny- wrote on Aug 16th, 2008 at 9:51pm:
i posted something about water powered cars a while back. stan meyer invented the water car lived a few miles from me before he was poisoned at the crackerbarrel in grove city oh. the great thing about this technology is that it can be adapted to old cars and trucks.


Yes he did, lived about 2 miles from us, we had a contractor who was at his residence the day he died, some pretty screwed up things went down!  Haven't eaten their since.
Technology is there, oil companies are suppressing it

Title: Re: Car Runs On Water?
Post by AlienSpaceGuy on Aug 16th, 2008 at 10:18pm
It doesn't need the oil companies to kill these crackpot ideas, the 2nd law of thermodynamis has done it long time ago.

BTW, Didn't you notice, these videos are suspiciously close to a conjurer showing his tricks.

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Title: Re: Car Runs On Water?
Post by Rolomatic on Aug 17th, 2008 at 1:54pm
It is obvious to me that the government, oil & electric companies stand to make zero profit or taxes from this technology so they will never endorse it even when there is one parked in their driveway!

The Pulse Width Modulator technology seems to be a 200-300% increase in gas output verses electrical current necessary to achieve a good gas flow.

Now all they need to do is get the car to levitate and fold up into a brief case! ;D

Title: Re: Car Runs On Water?
Post by Opus on Aug 17th, 2008 at 6:35pm

wrote on Aug 16th, 2008 at 6:36pm:
How cool would that be? Talk about breaking dependence on fossil fuels.


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Title: Re: Car Runs On Water?
Post by Charlie on Aug 17th, 2008 at 6:59pm
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Title: Re: Car Runs On Water?
Post by Barry_T_Coles on Aug 17th, 2008 at 10:29pm
It’s pretty simple technology that’s been around for a few decades now more or less since the lead acid battery was invented & has occurred naturally since the birth of time.
It works on the same principle as your car battery; one lead plate is an anode and the other is a cathode, in the process of the anode trying to protect the cathode from corroding an electrical field is generated.

For some one who wants to see this work & has a multi meter; get 2 short lengths of mild steel ½” bar & solder a short length of electrical cord to each, stand the bars in a glass jar of water &  leave for about an hour then attach your multimeter set at low voltage & DC current to the 2 pieces of electrical cord & you should get a voltage of around 1.5 volt DC depending on the conductivity of the water, the greater the conductivity (i.e. salt) the greater the voltage, what you wont be able to detect unless you have a gas detector is the small amount of hydrogen generated by the cathodic process.

This power from water generator works on the principal of impressed current meaning that it uses the power from your battery to make the cathodic process work better & therefore producing more hydrogen than would naturally occur in the low voltage sacrificial system.

You could get the same effect by injecting pure oxygen into the system through a regulator connected to your accelerator to increase or decrease the flow as required this increases the burning capability of the petrol or diesel.

Simple eh!

Cheers
Barry

Title: Re: Car Runs On Water?
Post by Bob P on Aug 18th, 2008 at 6:51am
Every wonder why:

if hydrogen is flamable

and

oxygen accelerates combustion,

why isn't H2O flamable?

I'm with the bearded old cat lover on this one.

Title: Re: Car Runs On Water?
Post by Brew on Aug 18th, 2008 at 7:37am

Bob P wrote on Aug 18th, 2008 at 6:51am:
Every wonder why:

if hydrogen is flamable

and

oxygen accelerates combustion,

why isn't H2O flamable?

I'm with the bearded old cat lover on this one.

Same type of question applies for sodium and chlorine. Why doesn't table salt rip your head off when you eat even minute quantities of it?
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Title: Re: Car Runs On Water?
Post by Barry_T_Coles on Aug 18th, 2008 at 6:44pm

Bob P wrote on Aug 18th, 2008 at 6:51am:
Every wonder why:

if hydrogen is flamable

and

oxygen accelerates combustion,

why isn't H2O flamable?

I'm with the bearded old cat lover on this one.


Cos the water puts the fire out.
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