John McCain chooses Sarah Palin, the governor of Alaska, as his running mate.

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Does this choice significantly change the dynamic of this election?

She's a babe.  Still voting for an indy.

Wow.
Holy schniekies, wow.

I don't know much about her, but I do know she is a common sense person.  When she sees something she doesnt like, she has no problem in letting her voice be heard and has no problem in rolling up her sleeves and getting in the trenches.

Wow, Wow.  I think this changes the dynamic completely.
Holy oleo

Agostino Leyre wrote on Aug 29^th, 2008 at 11:48am:

She's a babe.  Still voting for an indy.

That's not what I asked. ;)

WOWZA!!!

Boy does THIS make for an interesting run!  I know nothing about her, but just her age and sex make it VERY interesting!

There are enough narrow minded idiots out there that will just look at the choices:
An over 70 year old white guy, with a female VP
- OR -
A black man ...

WOW!!!

This IS a historic race, even though, as usual, I will be picking the lesser of the two evils ...  And at this point, I have not decided who is the lesser ... I really don't care for either one of them!

Chuck

Just out of curiosity, when was the last time you were excited to vote for a Presidential candidate?   It seems that it is ALWAYS a matter of choosing the lesser of two evils.

Jeannie

SURE IT CHANGES IT.  ALOT OF WOMEN WHO WANTED TO VOTE FOR WOMAN JUST GOT THEIR WISH.

ON A SIDE NOTE, AFTER I INDICATED I MAY VOTE FOR MCAIN, A BLACK MAN TOLD ME I AM EITHER A MILLIONARE OR A BIGOT.  F' YOU.  WHOSE THE BIGOT VOTING FOR OBAMA BECAUSE HE IS BLACK.  AND WHO IS THE MORON WHO SAID MCCAIN IS NOT A WAR HERO.  ANYONE FIGHTING OR HAS FOUGHT FOR OUR COUNTRY IS A HERO IN MY BOOK.  AND BY ANYONE, I MEAN WHITE, BLACK, YELLOW AND PURPLE.  I'M NOT A BIGOT, I HATE EVERYONE

wrote on Aug 29^th, 2008 at 11:49am:

Agostino Leyre wrote on Aug 29th, 2008 at 11:48am: She's a babe.  Still voting for an indy. That's not what I asked. ;)

I'm still voting for an Indy, so in my litte bitty corner of the world it does not change the dynamic.

As a former runner-up to Miss Alaska, should the occasion arise she is experienced at being prepared to step into a top role.  

ClusterChuck wrote on Aug 29^th, 2008 at 11:56am:

WOWZA!!! Boy does THIS make for an interesting run!  I know nothing about her, but just her age and sex make it VERY interesting! There are enough narrow minded idiots out there that will just look at the choices: An over 70 year old white guy, with a female VP - OR - A black man ... WOW!!! This IS a historic race, even though, as usual, I will be picking the lesser of the two evils ...  And at this point, I have not decided who is the lesser ... I really don't care for either one of them! Chuck

I'm with you Chuck.  I don't like the choices in front of me.

This is a stunning selection.  It makes the McCain ticket more attractive to x-Clinton supporters and gives McCain a youth component he was clearly missing before.  

On the other hand he opened himself up to the same problems Obama faces now with his lack of experience.  She's four years younger than Obama and one heart attack away from the Oval Office.

-Dennis-

DennisM1045 wrote on Aug 29^th, 2008 at 12:30pm:

I don't like the choices in front of me.

I hear that from a lot of people, but yet people still choose from the "two" major parties.  I don't get it.  If you really don't like either choice then choose something else.  Don't swallow the "wasting your vote" line.  We're going to have to go through some proverbial pain before it gets better.

Solid choice.  She is a conservative, has a son in the army, fights wasteful spending and corruption.  I am totally happy with this one.  She is a woman who I would like to see in the office someday.  She is a woman that this country can be proud of.  If this country is ready for a woman (they are) she is it.  McCain changed everything with this selection.  She may be four years younger than Obama, but she has actual accomplishments to list, unlike The One.

I must say, I am finally excited about this election.

wrote on Aug 29^th, 2008 at 1:34pm:

McCain changed everything with this selection.  She may be four years younger than Obama, but she has actual accomplishments to list, unlike The One. I must say, I am finally excited about this election.

I hear that, man.  Everything is changed now.  
She may be younger, but she has more experience in politics.  She started in city politics in 92.
This is one hell of a choice by McCain!!!!

I certainly was surprised when I saw the news about McCain's choice for his running mate. I'm following the election process with interest anyway, but this makes it even more interesting. Historic election coming up, that's for sure.

Sanna

I like what she told Kudlow with CNBC when she first got on the short list. She said,
Quote:

As for the prospect of her being vice president, Palin told Kudlow that she could not answer the question of whether she wanted the job “until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day. I’m used to being very productive and working real hard in an administration.

I thought that was pretty refreshing. She sure hit all the right buttons with her speech a few minutes ago.

*edited to add....Unless a bunch of skeletons come popping out of her closet, I think that we have just seen a turning point and McCain will indeed be our President. I think we could do much worse.

She has only been Governor for a short while and does not have much experience to run the country if she needs to fill the shoes of 72 y/o McCain.  She is also under invesigation for trying to get her ex-brother in-law unfairly fired from the State Patrol using the power of her office.  Of course this changes the dynamic of the election.

To the question: You bet your ass, Sarah Palin has run a city and a state....Obama has only run his mouth!  8-)

Just a month ago, she admitted that she didn't know what the Vice President does.  That's the kind of fresh perspective America needs!

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This election is getting interestinger and interestinger!

In my 62 years of life (only able to vote since age 21) I can't think of any Presidential election that has been so different, so exciting.

I don't know how I'm going to vote - I have until election day to make up my mind, but today's VP announcement sure makes it a challenge for me. - And, to all you chauvenist pigs out there, it's not because she's a woman.  I voted Obama in the primary - I detest Hillary.  To me, THAT was a vote for the lesser of two evils.

Sandy

How about that Obama speech last night!!!

wrote on Aug 29^th, 2008 at 4:20pm:

She has only been Governor for a short while and does not have much experience to run the country if she needs to fill the shoes of 72 y/o McCain.  She is also under invesigation for trying to get her ex-brother in-law unfairly fired from the State Patrol using the power of her office.  Of course this changes the dynamic of the election.

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On another note, Bob P......huh?.....no idea what your talking about, there was a speech?. :)

The point exactly Jonny.  Sure took the wind out of that sail in a hurry.

Bob P wrote on Aug 29^th, 2008 at 7:12pm:

The point exactly Jonny.  Sure took the wind out of that sail in a hurry.

Yeah Bob, on fox news (sirius radio) it was all Obama until about 9 am and then BAM!........Wall to wall Sarah!.  Even now all the talk shows I listen to are wall to wall Sarah!  ;D

How many times have you thought that all we need is one us regular (not rich) folks in the big house to watch out for us?

Shes not rich, shes one of us!!!

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Edit to add: Fuck me sideways!!!!!  [smiley=bow.gif]

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She does have that "naughty librarian" look about her, doesn't she?

Obama who?  [smiley=crackup.gif]

Here you go Jonny.  Enjoy!   [smiley=winkkiss.gif]

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It was a good move. After the huge press from Obama's speech....that will be rerun for the next 400 years....McCain took the wind out of his sails for a time. You have to give her credit for nixing Ted Steven's bridge to nowhere too. It doesn't hurt that she's big on the NRA....but then I can't imagine many from the NRA voting Democratic. The NRA has become as much a conservative political organization as well as guarders of the 2nd Ammendment.  

She could be his daughter.

Charlie

Kevin_M wrote on Aug 29^th, 2008 at 12:29pm:

As a former runner-up to Miss Alaska, should the occasion arise she is experienced at being prepared to step into a top role.

Very droll, my friend.   ;)

Best,

George

wrote on Aug 29^th, 2008 at 9:24pm:

Here you go Johnny.  Enjoy!   [smiley=winkkiss.gif] START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to or END PRINTPAGE

You're kidding, right? Consider the source - Newsweek.

(And it's Jonny, without an "h.")

wrote on Aug 29^th, 2008 at 9:43pm:

wrote on Aug 29th, 2008 at 9:24pm: Here you go Johnny.  Enjoy!   [smiley=winkkiss.gif] http://www.newsweek.com/id/156258/?GT1=43002 You're kidding, right? Consider the source - Newsweek. (And it's Jonny, without an "h.")

Thank you, Brew!

Suck this, Icedude......"The one"?....LMMMFAO!!!  ;D

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Thank God for the biased press though.

Charlie  

Charlie wrote on Aug 29^th, 2008 at 10:03pm:

Thank God for the biased press though.

Ain't it the truth? If not for them, we'd have nothing to talk about here.

Well, except for meds, and O2, and....

Charlie wrote on Aug 29^th, 2008 at 10:03pm:

It will be an interesting week and it kills me that after getting rid of all but the very basic cable, I don't see the political lunacy from CNN, FOX and others. Rats.

All is not lost, Charlie.....take all that tax money that you dont pay (that you are willing to vote we pay) and get broadband.....its that easy!  ;)

Not to worry. I won't know until October if I'll be able to by beer and porn on the state. In western NY, the average wait for a hearing is 669 days.   :o 8-)

Charlie  

wrote on Aug 29^th, 2008 at 9:43pm:

wrote on Aug 29th, 2008 at 9:24pm: Here you go Johnny.  Enjoy!   [smiley=winkkiss.gif] START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to or END PRINTPAGE You're kidding, right? Consider the source - Newsweek. (And it's Jonny, without an "h.")

Really?  Which news source do you prefer?  They are all saying the same thing.  Inexperience...investigation...abuse of power...northern exposure...newborn child....set up for failure...

So which one?  You choose...

wrote on Aug 29^th, 2008 at 9:59pm:

wrote on Aug 29th, 2008 at 9:43pm: wrote on Aug 29th, 2008 at 9:24pm: Here you go Johnny.  Enjoy!   [smiley=winkkiss.gif] http://www.newsweek.com/id/156258/?GT1=43002 You're kidding, right? Consider the source - Newsweek. (And it's Jonny, without an "h.") Thank you, Brew! Suck this, Icedude......"The one"?....LMMMFAO!!!  ;D START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to or END PRINTPAGE

Oh come on!  That one is really weak.  I have seen you post better than that.   [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

To answer the original question, yes I think it changes the dynamic of th election significantly.

Obama used to be my State Senator before going on to become my US Senator.  I had no use for his communist leanings then, (I used the "c" word advisedly), and I have no use for them now.  

I had planned to vote very reluctantly for McCain, but with Sarah Palin on the ticket I can vote enthusiastically, knowing that if something should happen to him we will have someone much more fiscally conservative to back him up.  I also believe she will have a great deal of influence on our oil policy, and she is no friend of the oil companies.

Jerry

wrote on Aug 30^th, 2008 at 1:41am:

wrote on Aug 29th, 2008 at 9:43pm: wrote on Aug 29th, 2008 at 9:24pm: Here you go Johnny.  Enjoy!   [smiley=winkkiss.gif] START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to or END PRINTPAGE You're kidding, right? Consider the source - Newsweek. (And it's Jonny, without an "h.") Really?  Which news source do you prefer?  They are all saying the same thing.  Inexperience...investigation...abuse of power...northern exposure...newborn child....set up for failure... So which one?  You choose...

Not taking the bait. If given the choice between several different poisons, my choice is to starve to death.

You, sir, have obviously drunk deep of the media koolaid. You are the type with whom I cannot argue, nor you with me, so please save your breath. And have a nice day.

If all the people who are talking "it is always the lesser of two evils" would actually find someone to vote for they like (yes it would take going to an independant to do it) somethings might change.

Until the US gov race isn't a rigged, 2 horse race, nothing is gonna change. As much as Dem and Reps fight, the truth is they both know either side cannot exist without the other, to the point where it colors what happens to the point of the affect being that they are in league with each other.

If EVREYONE who complained it is the lesser of two evils each year would vote indy, something would happen. But most do not, they pick the lesser of two evils and then most complain that somehow they are stuck with "evil".

Of course the answer is some weighted voting, where every voter is required to pick a certain % of candidates. Then people would hve some choices and there would need to be an interest in some 3rd parties.

Then maybe we would get a president that more people actually wanted as president than who didn't want them as president, for the first time in 30 some years!

But since the 2 main parties the rule our lives would be at risk, they would never make the changes - too bad for us.

Revoloution anyone?

I speak English only as a second language, and I'm doing my best to learn American, so will somebody please explain to me which is the lesser of two weevils.

And does that make them gooder or badder.

It's true that Palin's selection has changed the dynamics of the election but not quite to the extent you right wing apologists would like. It takes a good part of the experience question off table. Biden now looks better. Still, with few exceptions, people vote for President rather than Veep.

Charlie

Charlie wrote on Aug 30^th, 2008 at 3:20pm:

It's true that Palin's selection has changed the dynamics of the election but not quite to the extent you right wing apologists would like. It takes a good part of the experience question off table. Biden now looks better. Still, with few exceptions, people vote for President rather than Veep. Charlie

With McCain being 72, he would be the oldest ever elected.  So, doesn't this election take exception, and make his Veep a good/bad(?) canidate for President?

Quote:

With McCain being 72, he would be the oldest ever elected.  So, doesn't this election take exception, and make his Veep a good/bad(?) canidate for President?

It makes it good, because she is not a rich fuck that is looking to live on the dole. All we get is rich folks running this joint, its time for one of US to be included!

Like I said before, Sarah has run a city AND a state....Obama has ONLY run his mouth!

So we elect a president and hope he dies.................... fast?

Palin was chosen for her abortion postion. It's fine to have a positon but sad reason to choose a candidate. Democrats are guilty of it too. Palin is all right. McCain isn't stupid. She has a more open position on several other social issues. Hopefully the wackos on the far right will treat her with a little respect.

This antique approach has made serious national politics secondary. It works though. Republicans seem to be able to convince the evangelicals and the like that they are on their side. They do a good job electing some GOP types and are quickly forgotten until the next election.

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Charlie wrote on Aug 30^th, 2008 at 8:46pm:

Palin was chosen for her abortion postion.

Yes, she thinks that abortion should be denied for the victims of rape and incest, and McCain thinks that women that were for Hillary will vote for her.  

Wishful thinking on the social issues kids. Palin insures the pro-life thing for McCain as a lot of GOP women worry that he's not a true believer on some of these things. Choosing a woman that is for teaching creationism in schools brought it home for them.  

There is no way that Hillary voters will vote for a man that voted against equal pay for equal work for women. "No way, no how, not McCain." PUMA died on the convention floor.

Not my words...but it's probably true that if McCain chose a man with her credentials, he would be laughed off the ticket. It was a bit of a cynical move and possibly dangerous. McCain actually weakened his change position with her choice. Now that he's a true believing Republican trying to insure his right wing, he lost his maverick credentials. Everybody likes her but she has to be careful that she doesn't fall into the Eagleton and Quayle trap. I wish this kind of thing were not true but it is.

Charlie

superhawk2300 wrote on Aug 30^th, 2008 at 12:10pm:

If all the people who are talking "it is always the lesser of two evils" would actually find someone to vote for they like (yes it would take going to an independant to do it) somethings might change. Until the US gov race isn't a rigged, 2 horse race, nothing is gonna change. As much as Dem and Reps fight, the truth is they both know either side cannot exist without the other, to the point where it colors what happens to the point of the affect being that they are in league with each other. If EVREYONE who complained it is the lesser of two evils each year would vote indy, something would happen. But most do not, they pick the lesser of two evils and then most complain that somehow they are stuck with "evil". Of course the answer is some weighted voting, where every voter is required to pick a certain % of candidates. Then people would hve some choices and there would need to be an interest in some 3rd parties. Then maybe we would get a president that more people actually wanted as president than who didn't want them as president, for the first time in 30 some years! But since the 2 main parties the rule our lives would be at risk, they would never make the changes - too bad for us. Revoloution anyone?

Yep....