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Message started by fubar on Oct 8th, 2008 at 10:18am

Title: Obama reveals what 'change' means
Post by fubar on Oct 8th, 2008 at 10:18am
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Title: Re: Obama reveals what 'change' means
Post by Melissa on Oct 8th, 2008 at 10:25am
This is why government is so dangerous.

Title: Re: Obama reveals what 'change' means
Post by fubar on Oct 8th, 2008 at 10:27am
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liar

Title: Re: Obama reveals what 'change' means
Post by fubar on Oct 8th, 2008 at 10:30am
Our savior

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Title: Re: Obama reveals what 'change' means
Post by Melissa on Oct 8th, 2008 at 10:40am
Fu- the 2nd one is spun a bit.  From Factcheck.org:


Quote:
Obama, Senate floor, 2002: [A]dding a – an additional doctor who then has to be called in an emergency situation to come in and make these assessments is really designed simply to burden the original decision of the woman and the physician to induce labor and perform an abortion. … I think it’s important to understand that this issue ultimately is about abortion and not live births.

Obama, Senate floor, 2001: Number one, whenever we define a previable fetus as a person that is protected by the equal protection clause or the other elements in the Constitution, what we’re really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a – a child, a nine-month-old – child that was delivered to term. That determination then, essentially, if it was accepted by a court, would forbid abortions to take place. I mean, it – it would essentially bar abortions, because the equal protection clause does not allow somebody to kill a child, and if this is a child, then this would be an antiabortion statute.

I read that he opposed the wording of the bill and that is why he voted against it.

as for abortion, I am against it anyway, so for me it is a moot point...

Title: Re: Obama reveals what 'change' means
Post by Callico on Oct 8th, 2008 at 5:07pm
I miss Reagan!  What he said at teh end of that clip sums up the whole equation to me.

Jerry

Title: Re: Obama reveals what 'change' means
Post by Jonny on Oct 8th, 2008 at 5:13pm
The Obamas just love to insult Amercia!  >:(

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Title: Re: Obama reveals what 'change' means
Post by superhawk2300 on Oct 8th, 2008 at 5:16pm
Love your tag line under your photo Mel!

Any chance you'll leak who you are leaning toward?

I dunno all the way myself yet, but I do know it will not be McSame or Obozo.

Title: Re: Obama reveals what 'change' means
Post by Melissa on Oct 8th, 2008 at 5:20pm

superhawk2300 wrote on Oct 8th, 2008 at 5:16pm:
Love your tag line under your photo Mel!

Any chance you'll leak who you are leaning toward?

I dunno all the way myself yet, but I do know it will not be McSame or Obozo.

Thanks. :)

Ron Paul endorsed Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party, so that is who I'm voting for.  (of course, I am a conservative, so if you are left leaning, there is also Cynthia McKinney of the Green Party for example)

Title: Re: Obama reveals what 'change' means
Post by Jonny on Oct 8th, 2008 at 8:05pm
Biden Introduced as Next Vice President ‘Joe McCain

I think I just pissed myself laughing.....ROTFFLMMFAO!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D

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Title: Re: Obama reveals what 'change' means
Post by Ree on Oct 8th, 2008 at 8:40pm
I'll be back when the election is over.

ree

Title: Re: Obama reveals what 'change' means
Post by Charlie on Oct 8th, 2008 at 11:09pm
Wouldn't it be nice if Presidents would stay out of the way unless absolutely needed to break ties and let Congress know when to consider outside stuff that might affect the country. Not a chance.

At least that's Charlie's idea of conservatism.

Charlie

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