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Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson will reportedly use his new authorities to buy direct stakes in U.S. banks to help restore confidence in the markets, but investors didn't seem convinced.

F'ing FED!!!  End the FED!!!  woot woot!

Hey Pegg, did ya know ABC news is in WI today??  Jerks, lmao.

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Yeah Dyl and I were watching the news this morning about that.

My voting will be determined by what research I'm doing right now on ALL candidates including 3rd party.

However, the state of the economy, and the decisions made all the way up to election day will also be part of the decision as I enter the booth.

The only research needed to be done on the two main guys, is that they are part of the current problems we have RIGHT NOW and voting for either one of them, means you like where we're headed and big government is a good thing.

NYC National Debt Clock runs out of digits
October 8, 2008

NEW YORK - In a sign of the times, the legendary National Debt Clock in New York City has run out of digits to record the growing debt.

The Times Square-area ticker needs two additional digits to track a national debt 100 times larger than the current $10.2 trillion.

As a short-term fix the digital dollar sign on the billboard-style clock has been switched to a number one - the "1" in $10 trillion. The Durst Organization says it plans to update the sign next year.

The late Manhattan real estate developer Seymour Durst put the sign up in 1989 to call attention to the then-national debt of $2.7 trillion. The clock was turned off during the 1990's when the debt decreased.

Seymour Durst died in 1995, and his son Doug Durst now runs the company that maintains the clock.

:-?

Treasury plan to buy bank stakes carries risks

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I've been trying to figure out why those guys on Wall Street haven't been jumping out of windows like they did back in '29 -- just figured it out -- they didn't have A/C back in '29 -- they could OPEN the damn windows.....

guess they'll have to go up on the roof this time.... My luck - my broker is on the FIRST floor - wouldn't even break his leg... Oh well, there's always a shotgun.... ;)

Hugs BD

Hersheys kisses ladies.   Heraseys Kisses.   and a lot of Xannax.

I'm not a chocolate fan Linda...can I just drink some wine instead?

I'm pissed off that my tax dollars are being spent to increase the debt that neither I nor my children will ever see a way out of.

Pegg, you could ask Obama for some money...


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On Monday, for instance, he spent $3.3 million in a single day of TV advertising. At that rate he will spend more than $90 million on ads through Election Day — more than all the money Republican rival John McCain has to spend on his entire fall campaign.

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hmmm, I wonder if Obama would then loan me several grand for the money I lost last week.   I need a bail out.


yeah, it might be time to break out the wine.  I can't afford the good stuff anymore, how's Gallo sounding to you Pegg?

That is truly disgusting, Mel!

The closest thing to one of us to get in there is Palin, and thats what this country needs to start!

If you only look in the two major parties, Jonny, but she doesn't stand for the values "I" hold dear.

So nope...no vote for that ticket.  No way.

Redd wrote on Oct 9^th, 2008 at 9:49pm:

If you only look in the two major parties, Jonny, but she doesn't stand for the values "I" hold dear. So nope...no vote for that ticket.  No way.

I guess you will be throwing your vote away.  ;)

Like I said, she is the closest we will get to a non-millionaire fuck face that we can get in the big house.

Plus, she wont be president.....Obama will......3rd party never will! (as long as we live)

;)

wrote on Oct 9^th, 2008 at 10:16pm:

Redd wrote on Oct 9th, 2008 at 9:49pm: If you only look in the two major parties, Jonny, but she doesn't stand for the values "I" hold dear. So nope...no vote for that ticket.  No way. I guess you will be throwing your vote away.  ;) Like I said, she is the closest we will get to a non-millionaire fuck face that we can get in the big house. Plus, she wont be president.....Obama will......3rd party never will! (as long as we live) ;)

I'll throw my vote away by supporting a ticket that doesn't support the issues that I hold important.

Her non-millionaire status doesn't mean shit if I can't see eye to eye with her or the ticket on the issues.

Redd wrote on Oct 9^th, 2008 at 10:26pm:

wrote on Oct 9th, 2008 at 10:16pm: Redd wrote on Oct 9th, 2008 at 9:49pm: If you only look in the two major parties, Jonny, but she doesn't stand for the values "I" hold dear. So nope...no vote for that ticket.  No way. I guess you will be throwing your vote away.  ;) Like I said, she is the closest we will get to a non-millionaire fuck face that we can get in the big house. Plus, she wont be president.....Obama will......3rd party never will! (as long as we live) ;) I'll throw my vote away by supporting a ticket that doesn't support the issues that I hold important. Her non-millionaire status doesn't mean shit if I can't see eye to eye with her or the ticket on the issues.

One more vote for Obama. ;)

No Jonny,

One vote less for either of the major parties.

;)

Warren Buffett says that the Fed will most likely make money on this thing after a time and that this country has the abiltiy to get around it. Others can't do it without us. He says things will be getting worse for six months at least and things aren't going to recover fully for some time. 2 year recession is what he sees. He also thinks Paulson is doing it right and is glad the the bailout was voted on.

Of course he supports Obama so obviously he is a communist and a traitor.

Charlie

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I guess you will be throwing your vote away.  ;)

That attitude is what has gotten us in this mess.

Linda_Howell wrote on Oct 9^th, 2008 at 9:27pm:

hmmm, I wonder if Obama would then loan me several grand for the money I lost last week.   I need a bail out. yeah, it might be time to break out the wine.  I can't afford the good stuff anymore, how's Gallo sounding to you Pegg?

Oh Linda, I buy it by the box...I can't afford the good stuff either.

You may not agree with everything Chuck Baldwin stands for, but I just got this in my inbox this morning and I think he makes a pretty good point...


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A WASTED VOTE By Chuck Baldwin October 10, 2008 NewsWithViews.com When asked why they will not vote for a third party candidate, many people will respond by saying something like, "He cannot win." Or, "I don't want to waste my vote." It is true: America has not elected a third party candidate since 1860. Does that automatically mean, however, that every vote cast for one of the two major party candidates is not a wasted vote? I don't think so. In the first place, a wasted vote is a vote for someone you know does not represent your own beliefs and principles. A wasted vote is a vote for someone you know will not lead the country in the way it should go. A wasted vote is a vote for the "lesser of two evils." Or, in the case of John McCain and Barack Obama, what we have is a choice between the "evil of two lessers." Albert Einstein is credited with saying that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result. For years now, Republicans and Democrats have been leading the country in the same basic direction: toward bigger and bigger government; more and more socialism, globalism, corporatism, and foreign interventionism; and the dismantling of constitutional liberties. Yet, voters continue to think that they are voting for "change" when they vote for a Republican or Democrat. This is truly insane! Take a look at the recent $700 billion Wall Street bailout: both John McCain and Barack Obama endorsed and lobbied for it. Both McCain and Obama will continue to bail out these international banksters on the backs of the American taxpayers. Both McCain and Obama support giving illegal aliens amnesty and a path to citizenship. In the debate this past Tuesday night, both McCain and Obama expressed support for sending U.S. forces around the world for "peacekeeping" purposes. They also expressed support for sending combat forces against foreign countries even if those countries do not pose a threat to the United States. Neither Obama nor McCain will do anything to stem the tide of a burgeoning police state or a mushrooming New World Order. Both Obama and McCain support NAFTA and similar "free trade" deals. Neither candidate will do anything to rid America of the Federal Reserve, or work to eliminate the personal income tax, or disband the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). Both Obama and McCain support the United Nations. So, pray tell, how is a vote for either McCain or Obama not a wasted vote? But, back to the "he cannot win" argument: to vote for John McCain is to vote for a man who cannot win. Yes, I am saying it here and now: John McCain cannot win this election. The handwriting is on the wall. The Fat Lady is singing. It is all over. Finished. John McCain cannot win. With only three weeks before the election, Barack Obama is pulling away. McCain has already pulled his campaign out of Michigan. In other key battleground states, McCain is slipping fast. He was ahead in Missouri; now it is a toss-up or leaning to Obama. A couple of weeks ago, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida were all leaning towards McCain, or at least toss-up states. Now, they are all leaning to Obama. Even the longtime GOP bellwether state of Indiana is moving toward Obama. In addition, new voter registrations are at an all-time high, and few of them are registering as Republicans. In fact, the Republican Party now claims only around 25% of the electorate, and Independents are increasingly leaning toward Obama. Ladies and gentlemen, Barack Obama is headed for an electoral landslide victory over John McCain. John McCain can no more beat Barack Obama than Bob Dole could beat Bill Clinton. I ask, therefore, Are not conservatives and Christians who vote for John McCain guilty of the same thing that they accuse people who vote for third party candidates of doing? Are they not voting for someone who cannot win? Indeed, they are. In fact, conservatives and Christians who vote for John McCain are not only voting for a man who cannot win, they are voting for a man who does not share their own beliefs and principles. If this is not insanity, nothing is! So, why not (for once in your life, perhaps) cast a vote purely for principle! Vote for someone who is truly pro-life. Someone who would quickly secure our nation's borders, and end the invasion of our country by illegal aliens. Someone who would, on his first day in office, release Border Patrol agents Ramos and Compean and fire U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton. Someone who would immediately, upon assuming office, begin leading the charge to dismantle the Federal Reserve, overturn the 16th Amendment, expunge the IRS, and return America to sound money principles. Someone who would get the US out of the UN. Someone who would stop spending billions and trillions of dollars for foreign aid. Someone who would prosecute the Wall Street bankers who defrauded the American people out of billions of dollars. Someone who would work to repeal NAFTA, CAFTA, GATT, the WTO, and stop the NAFTA superhighway. Someone who would say a resounding "No" to the New World Order. Someone who would stop using our brave men and women in uniform as global cops for the United Nations. Someone who would stop America's global adventurism and interventionism. Someone who would steadfastly support and defend the right of the people to keep and bear arms. "Who is this person?" you ask. Go here to find out. As John Quincy Adams said, "Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." *If you enjoyed this column and want to help me distribute these editorial opinions to an ever-growing audience, donations may now be made by credit card, check, or Money Order. Use this link. *Disclaimer: I am currently a candidate for President of the United States on the Constitution Party ticket. Click here for my official campaign web site. © 2008 Chuck Baldwin - All Rights Reserved

Remember, there are other 3rd party candidates that probably share your views.  So DON'T WASTE YOUR VOTE!! ;)

Don't be too happy with your third parties yet. The election of 1992 and of course 2000 would have had very different outcomes for yours and my party without populist third party candidates. Until we have serious ones, they act only as spoilers and encouraged by big party underdogs. It produced two whipping boys though. Fun.

Charlie

Unfortunately, for those who can't see beyond their own party, time will be the ultimate teacher. :(

Charlie wrote on Oct 10^th, 2008 at 9:39am:

Don't be too happy with your third parties yet. The election of 1992 and of course 2000 would have had very different outcomes for yours and my party without populist third party candidates. Until we have serious ones, they act only as spoilers and encouraged by big party underdogs. It produced two whipping boys though. Fun. Charlie

It depends on your perspective.  If you believe like I do, and that there really is no fundamental difference between the Donkeys and the Elephants, then the outcome of those elections wouldn't have made much difference.  Neither party has the American citizen's interests at heart.  They are in the business of spending our money and increasing their power, PERIOD.  In my opinion, if you vote for a media-sponsored, special interest backed, self-appointed member of the current aristocracy then YOU are throwing your vote away, because you are in fact doing what they want you to do.  When in reality they are supposed to be doing what WE want THEM to do.  But millions will swallow the Kool-Aid and head to the polls to perform their programmed response and pull the lever to maintain the status quo whilst the "elected" officials gain more power and influence over the blind-folded public.  It really is so crystal clear to see, but one has to open one's own eyes to see the truth.  It's a hard pill to swallow, I know.  But one that must be taken if we are ever to regain control of our government like the Constitution set out for us.  Until we do, get used to being a slave to the machine.  What fundamental rights are they going to take away next?  How far in the future do you think the thought police are, newsflash they've been around for the last 13 years.  It's getting ugly.  I glimpsed the underbelly of the beast, it is consuming our solidarity as citizens of a united country at an ever increasing pace while we sit and let it happen.  

Well.....

I've said this before but I pick out a couple of issues to vote for. It may seem simplistic but it's me. Another thing to consider is if you are interested in say gay rights; especially marriage, you have little choice. On that, I still think it's nuts to bring that up just before elections. If you want another pulpit pounder, that's a good way to help get one elected.

Charlie

Charlie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2008 at 9:40pm:

Well..... I've said this before but I pick out a couple of issues to vote for. It may seem simplistic but it's me. Another thing to consider is if you are interested in say gay rights; especially marriage, you have little choice. On that, I still think it's nuts to bring that up just before elections. If you want another pulpit pounder, that's a good way to help get one elected. Charlie

And if you're concerned about your Medicare (I am) then you'd best check WHO is gonna mess with that. I'm a lot more concerned about that than I am about abortion.

Hugs BD

When is the last time effective FEDERAL legislation has been passed on any of the 20 second sound bit "issues"?  By this I mean - healthcare, abortion, gay rights, gun control, social security or medicare.  

The real ISSUE is how corrupt and out of touch or government is.

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The real ISSUE is how corrupt and out of touch or government is.

Not much news there, you know. At least we get a chance to "trow da bums out" now and then. Once in awhile a good one will stick for a few years. For the most part, everybody thinks that their own Congressmen are pretty good though. That's not true with Mayors or city councilmen. Interesting.

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