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Title: Clarifying Svenn's Post _ updated on page 2 Post by ClusterChuck on Oct 15th, 2008 at 12:57pm
First of all, let me tell you that I am giving out this information at Svenn's request. He gave me permission to tell you this.
Svenn's post, this morning, had nothing to do with the "I Had a Dream" post. Although he still feels strongly about it, right now, that is about as far away from his thoughts as can be. To give a little history, Svenn has been taking Imitrex as an abortive for years. In the past few years, he has been prescribed morphine injections to assist, when the imitrex does not work. His usage of morphine has been building for some time. Now he can no longer take Imitrex, so he has only oxygen and morphine to abort with. He now knows that he is addicted to morphine. Addicted in a big way (if there can be such a statement). He has suspected as much in the past, but now knows it to be a true fact. He has decided that he has to break the addiction. He is VERY scared! He is working with doctors, and addiction clinics, but so far is not getting the help he feels he needs. They are trying to detox him, at his home, and he is having a VERY hard time doing this. He feels he is at the end of his rope, and cannot hold on any longer. He is suicidal. Several of us, here on this site, are in contact with him, several times a day. We are doing what we can. What Svenn needs now is your understanding and prayers. He is in desperate straights right now. He needs us to support him in his time of need. I am sure, that any of you who have been intimately involved with someone with a serious addiction, knows where Svenn is right now. Please back him up. Give him the love and support that he has so freely given to others, in the past. This is ripping my heart out, right now, so PLEASE, understand and help a DEAR friend in need! Chuck |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by Jimi on Oct 15th, 2008 at 1:02pm
Thanks for clarifying that Chuck. Svenn is a dear friend and it hurts to hear that he has become addicted to the morphine. All we can do is pray for him as he goes through this and let him know that we love him no matter what.
Give it all you got Svenn. |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by Mrs Deej on Oct 15th, 2008 at 1:02pm
Thanks Chuck! :)
THAT IS WHAT THIS SITE IS ABOUT FOLKS!!! All the bickering bullshit aside, a family member needs us more than ever NOW!!!! :'( Svenn, you are in our thoughts and prayers through your struggles!! We love you and if there is anything we can do to help, PLEASE get a hold of DJ or myself! Steph & DJ |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by gizmo on Oct 15th, 2008 at 1:03pm
Thanks for the clarification Chuck (to be honest I suspected it :'( ).
Quote:
All I have is on the way! Oliver |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by Melissa on Oct 15th, 2008 at 1:03pm
Since we are so far away, all I can do Svenn is give you my love and prayers. Wish I could do more... :'(
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Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by Redd on Oct 15th, 2008 at 1:06pm
You know I will Chuck.
All I got is headed to Norway. |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by maalstroom on Oct 15th, 2008 at 1:14pm
This must be a very hard time for Svenn and his family.
Wishing him all the strength he needs, and love and support to his supporters. Pascal. |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by Racer1_NC on Oct 15th, 2008 at 1:14pm
100% behind you Svenn.....
B |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by Mandy on Oct 15th, 2008 at 1:14pm
My heart goes out to you and your family Svenn. You are in my prayers. I hope you find the help and answers that you need. May God be with you.
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Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by Jean on Oct 15th, 2008 at 1:23pm
Addiction is a terrible thing that takes hold of you and does not want to let go.
I will be praying for Svenn with all my heart. Please keep fighting Svenn! Rely on all those that are there for you and on those that are keeping you close in their hearts. Love and Strength, Jeannie |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by Mosaicwench on Oct 15th, 2008 at 1:28pm
We're here for you and praying with all we've got.
Give it Viking hell!! |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by George_J on Oct 15th, 2008 at 1:29pm
I'm glad to hear that those who are closer to Svenn than I am, are keeping in touch with Svenn and his family. Thanks for keeping us informed, Chuck.
I hope to hear that the doctors responsible for his medical care decide to place him in-patient until this thing is broken--many times, home is not the right place to be when going through detoxification. Without knowing much more than what you've said, Chuck, it sounds to me as if this is one of those times. Svenn, you have my unconditional support and the very best that we can send. Get well soon. All the best, George |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by Marc on Oct 15th, 2008 at 1:48pm
I am saddened to read this. I wish he and his family all of the strength that they will need.
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Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by BarbaraD on Oct 15th, 2008 at 2:02pm
Candles lit Chuck. give the old Viking my love and tell him to hang in there.
You know where I am if I can do anything... Hugs BD |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by andrewjb on Oct 15th, 2008 at 3:31pm
changeing anything takes a lot of time svenn, breath deep, this too will pass. stay strong. andrew.
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Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by Jackie on Oct 15th, 2008 at 3:41pm
Svenn,
Please remember our conversation. You, Sir, can survive this too. I know you can. You know you can. We all are here for you. Holding you and Bente close in my heart and sending love, positive thoughts and prayers. Be well our Viking friend. Much Love, Jackie |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by Grandma_Sweet_Boy on Oct 15th, 2008 at 3:56pm
Svenn - all I've got - in wishes, hopes and prayers - is on the way to you.
Hang in there my friend. I'm planning to share another breakfast with you and Bente one day. Hugs to you both Carol |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by Callico on Oct 15th, 2008 at 5:00pm
Svenn,
You, my firend, are on my list of clusterheads I most want to meet. My prayers and those of my family and church will be with you. Please don't give up hope! We are behind you. Jerry |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by mummymac on Oct 15th, 2008 at 5:02pm
Svenn
sending you you and Bente all I have, Love and light to you both . :'( |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by Cathi_Pierce on Oct 15th, 2008 at 5:10pm
Thank you, Chuck.........I didn't want to 'out' him this morning, but I did call one of my (his)friends after I spoke with him. Again, all I can say is Thank you, Chuck.now I guess I have to be nice to you for a year.........
As I said in a previous post, when I read Svenn's msg this morning, I truly thought he had given up on helping clusterheads.......then, no more than a minute after I posted, he called. He is at the end of his rope.........so we need to send him more. Svenn, you know I think of you as a brother I never had. You also know I love your wife. Whatever I can do, PLEASE let me know, till then, all my vibes and juju are going across the pond........don't you EVER make me cry again! You can do this, Svenn, we can help........ Cathi :-* |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by Em on Oct 15th, 2008 at 5:34pm
Sending my love and strength to Svenn and Bente in this difficult time.
Steph hit the nail on the head here - this is what this place is all about. Svenn, you've got one hell of a team backing you here 100%. Love Em |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by barry_sword on Oct 15th, 2008 at 5:52pm
Svenn, Angie and I so want to meet you and Bente in person someday. You will fight this and win, you are a CH. All the support and prayers on the way from two more of your Canadian friends.
Barry&Angie [smiley=hug.gif] [smiley=hug.gif] |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by cynjeep89 on Oct 15th, 2008 at 6:00pm
To Svenn, Bente and everyone helping them.....loads of love to all of you.
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Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by flipperlips on Oct 15th, 2008 at 6:44pm
Much love, great big hugs and lots and lots of prayers coming at ya. Hang in there Svenn, you can beat it.
Love, Hugs and Kisses, Jen |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by thebbz on Oct 15th, 2008 at 6:49pm
Give it hell Svenn. Wished I could help more.
all the best thebb |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by Jonny on Oct 15th, 2008 at 6:49pm George wrote on Oct 15th, 2008 at 1:29pm:
Im with the G-man on this one, seeing that I kicked many drugs at the same time......home was just not the place it was going to happen! Svenn, if I my punk ass can do it, you can. You just need alittle help and all our vibes......you know how strong our prayers and vibes are, brother! Now kick this shit like you have been kicking the beast for so many years!!!! [smiley=bash.gif] We love you, Svenn! |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by Charlie on Oct 15th, 2008 at 8:59pm |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by jon019 on Oct 15th, 2008 at 9:13pm
Thoughts and prayers from Seattle, Wa (home of the Ballard "Vikings") too Svenn!
Best Jon |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by Pixie-elf on Oct 15th, 2008 at 9:59pm
My thoughts and prayers are with Svenn, I've gone through morphine withdrawls before, myself. I was dependant/tolerant, not addicted, so I know it's probably a hell of a lot harder for him...
We're all behind you, Svenn, you'll come through this, you're stronger than the addiction AND the beast! |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by Ray on Oct 15th, 2008 at 9:59pm
Dear Svenn:
I'm sorry to hear of the depth of the problem. Sometimes being at the bottom gives you only one way to go -- UP! I don't know how you feel about God, but now is a time to be a believer. I am praying my heart out and I will get others to do so for you. You are loved here and we want the best for you! Recover quickly, Ray :-* |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by DonnaH_again on Oct 15th, 2008 at 10:41pm
Dear Svenn:
Thank you for all you have done for us............clusterheads. You have given more of yourself than most. We appreciate you and look up to you with respect. The problem you are having now is workable. It is not uncommon. It is not to be ashamed of. I am saying these variable things because I do not know where you are mentally at this time, but I do know that your situation is not isolated to just you. I have a loved one who is addicted. I agree that the home setting is not the place for recovery. You must make a complete break from all ties that have been a part of your behavior. When we say that you are a strong person, I know that you doubt it. I know that you feel defeated. I know that you can't do this alone. Please let us, the people who truely love and respect you, help, encourage and lend you support, help you. We pray that dear Bente has the strength to stand up to you and not enable you (hardest thing in the world to do when a loved one is in withdrawal) and will hold you up while you battle this enemy. Svenn, you know better than anyone else that you are exceptionally strong. You may not feel so now, but you must keep on fighting You will overcome this obstacle. We all know it. Now it is up to you to believe it. Choose your help wisely and when you do, stick with the program 100%. Whether you believe it now or not, you will succeed..........it is what you are made of. What can we do for you, who has done so much for us? Multitude of prayers coming your way. I know in my heart that you will be successful. Just admitting it is the biggest step. Love and fervent prayers to you my friend, Donna H. |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by alienspacebabe on Oct 15th, 2008 at 10:58pm
Wishing you a quick detox, Svenn
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Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by sandie99 on Oct 16th, 2008 at 4:56am
Svenn,
my thoughts and prayers are with you and Bente as well. [smiley=hug.gif] I wish you strength as you take this mountain - and I know you can do it. I wish also wisdom for the doctors to plan the best plan to help you out safely. You have the guts and determination to win this fight, too. If there's more than praying that I can do... let me know. In the meantime, I'll praying for you all. All the best with this battle also and prayers, Sanna |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by Woobie on Oct 16th, 2008 at 5:43am
ohhhh Svenn!!!!!!
HUGZ... to you and Bente. [smiley=hug.gif] Kick some ASS! woobs :-* |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by superhawk2300 on Oct 16th, 2008 at 8:06am
What a scary place to be. I am glad he has friends like you Chuck!
Sending all the positive thoughts I can muster! |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by deltadarlin on Oct 16th, 2008 at 9:35am
I guess that I'm stupid because it didn't occur to me that Svenn's post had anything to do with his *I have a dream* post (From what I've read, both about him and stuff he's posted, I would think that he's a much bigger man than to let something like that affect him so badly).
You can do this, but I'm with the rest of them, you can't do this at home. You need to be in a controlled setting, where people are there 24/7 to help you get through this ordeal. Sending good thoughts to you AND Bente. Carolyn |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by kevmd on Oct 16th, 2008 at 10:16am
Didn't read the first post and don't need to. Great post Chuck and Best wishess Svenn.
Makes me feel like a wuss with the stresses growing with my quit smoking date coming up. Svenn...You obviously have a ton of people here to lean on. Stay strong and stay positive. You are in my prayers |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by CH-HELL on Oct 16th, 2008 at 11:06am
Thanks for this post Chuck and Svenn, Svenn it sounds like you have a great support system there take all the help you can from your doctors friends and family, if you would like to vent to a stranger pm your phone number to me and I'll call. I stopped taking morphine in Feb. so I know the pains involved, if Jonny and I can do it then you should have no problem.
Prayers and vibe from across the pond, Phil |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by kayarr on Oct 16th, 2008 at 11:18am
Svenn and Bente,
Love and prayers going your way. We understand the fear. Hang onto the Love that you have for each other and the Love that you have here and with all your support group. You are not alone. We believe in you. Believe in yourself. This too shall pass. Love, Jeff and Kimberly |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by PollyPocket on Oct 16th, 2008 at 12:38pm
Thank you Chuck for letting us know.
Svenn, all my prayers for you and Bente as you deal with this fight from within. We love you. Jen and Darryl |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by debOUCH on Oct 16th, 2008 at 12:44pm
thinking of u svenn.....................sending prayers from long island..................deb
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Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by midwestbeth on Oct 16th, 2008 at 2:49pm
Svenn,
You and Bente will be in my thoughts and prayers. You can beat this Svenn! Beth |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by Mastifflvr28 on Oct 16th, 2008 at 2:59pm
Vibes goin up to Svenn and Bente.
Take care, Mast |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by ClusterChuck on Oct 16th, 2008 at 11:21pm
Thank you for all your wishes, prayers, and good vibes.
I know it means a lot to Svenn and those of us working with him. This site is just AWESOME!!! There is no way Deej could have known how important his little site was going to become. The love and help, that is here, is just AWESOME! I have been involved in the "behind the scenes" for several different problems, over the years, that one of our family have had. It blows me away at how much people are so willing to jump in and assist one of our own. GAWD, you people are amazing! (Even BarbaraD and Cathi and Linda and Mel and Liz and Jackie and Cat and even Lady Luv) Several of us are in almost constant contact with our dear friend, and I know it means a lot to him. Please keep your prayers, vibes, good ju-ju, or whatever you send, heading to our esteemed viking. (Who the hell moved the ashtray so that the smoke is going right into my eyes? Damned smoke is causing my eyes to leak uncontrolably.) Chuck |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by Jimi on Oct 16th, 2008 at 11:48pm
wimp
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Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by BarbaraD on Oct 17th, 2008 at 5:07pm Jimi wrote on Oct 16th, 2008 at 11:48pm:
Yeah and quit blowing that smoke over this way..... Do you have any updates.... |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by cash5542 on Oct 17th, 2008 at 6:30pm
Take care Svenn! If you can make it through that heart problem in DC and all of Pete's helpful guidance, you can do this!! You and Bente re in my prayers.
Charlotte |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post Post by ClusterChuck on Oct 18th, 2008 at 12:28am BarbaraD wrote on Oct 17th, 2008 at 5:07pm:
Barb, I ALMOST didn't give an update, jus cuz YOU asked for it ... but there are other people on this site that ARE nice, decent people, so I guess for THEM I will give an update ... I have been chatting/talking with Svenn several times a day, just to keep in touch, be a support, and keep him out of the slump that he was in. Today, I was so glad to hear him, joke and tell me to "STFU" as he usually does, he sounded very much like the Svenn that we all know and love. His spirits were much higher today, than they have been lately. BUT, he still has a long way to go. He should be waking up shortly, and I will see how he is, then. Just because he was in such good spirits does not mean he is out of the woods. He still has a tough road to go. He has started on the oxicontin today, and that should help to break the morphine addiction, and then they can work on the oxycontin tie. It is sort of like stepping down from one to the other. I guess they are taking this approach, because they are not sure his heart can take the strain of going cold turkey. I am not sure, but that is my logic, because I am not real pleased with switching from one addiction to another, but then again, I am not a doctor, especially HIS doctor. I am sure he appreciates your prayers vibes and good ju-ju that all y'all are sending his way. Please keep it up! Youse guyz 'n galz is WONDERFUL!!! Chuck |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post _ updated on page 2 Post by George_J on Oct 18th, 2008 at 1:55am
Thanks for the update, Chuck.
This is not an easy process, and it's often accomplished stepwise. I'm not surprised to hear that his doctors have taken this tack. When people succeed (and many do) I can only say that they have my entire admiration and respect. I know how difficult it can be. Svenn, of course, already has mine--his strength in the facing up to this only confirms it. Be well-but above all, be patient, my friend. All the best, George |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post _ updated on page 2 Post by Pixie-elf on Oct 18th, 2008 at 2:06am
Well, look at it this way... It should be easier for them to break his addiction/dependance on something like Oxycontin than break it of Morphine.
It may have taken a lot longer to get him off of the Morphine injections than it would have if they switched to Oxycontin pills. We're all still thinking of you Svenn, and sending good vibes~ |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post _ updated on page 2 Post by Charlie on Oct 18th, 2008 at 2:10am
Lots of vibes here for Svenn and Bente. I know this is a nasty thing to get around and it takes a shitload time as well but with the extra support of all us brain damaged types, our friend will make it.
Charlie |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post _ updated on page 2 Post by sandie99 on Oct 18th, 2008 at 6:08am
Thank you for the update, Chuck!
Prayers are on their way, Svenn. [smiley=hug.gif] Sanna |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post _ updated on page 2 Post by purpleydog on Oct 18th, 2008 at 6:17am
Svenn, I know this has been a tough decision for you to do this. It will take time, but you can, and you will beat this! You are strong, my friend. I too hope they can help you with this as an inpatient, as it can be dangerous to do this at home with no medical support to speak of.
I would like to clarify that when a person is prescribed narcotics for long term pain control, as in this situation, the body develops a dependency that is a normal part of taking the medication. This doesn't make one an addict. And when the prescribed medicine is stopped, of course, there will be withdrawal. With proper medical support, it is still hard, but "stepping down" and decreasing the dosage to wean off is a manageable way to do it. Svenn, I hope you are getting that medical support to help you. You can do this. You know we are right here for you and Bente. Lot's of love from us. [smiley=hug.gif] |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post _ updated on page 2 Post by BarbaraD on Oct 18th, 2008 at 8:01am
Thanks for the update.
Tell that old Viking - to hurry up... these candles are costing me a friggin fortune, but I'm still lighting them for him.... so I know he'll be ok. Seriously, give Bente my love and tell her I'm praying for a speedy recovery.... Hugs BD |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post _ updated on page 2 Post by flipperlips on Oct 18th, 2008 at 10:33am
Thanks for the update Chuck.
Hang in there Svenn. I know it's a tough road, I've been through it with my hubby. I know that you can do it. I pray and send vibes to you and your family many times a day. Big Hugs, Jen |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post _ updated on page 2 Post by PollyPocket on Oct 18th, 2008 at 1:25pm
Thanks Chuck!
Svenn and Bente, my sis and her boys are praying for you too. (and there is no straighter line to God's ear than prayers of a 6 year old!) We're all keeping you in our thoughts and lifting you up in spirit. Keep fighting the fight my sweet stubborn brother! And the times when you feel weak, we'll all be strong for you. Love to you both, Jen and Darryl |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post _ updated on page 2 Post by The Mad Viking on Oct 19th, 2008 at 10:24am
Thanx for all the best wishes and all folks.I just dont know what to say.
This is something i dont wish my worst enemy. DAMN IT HURTS :'( :'( :'( :'( Dont know if i can manage this.The pain is just insane Svenn |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post _ updated on page 2 Post by BarbaraD on Oct 19th, 2008 at 10:30am
Look on the bottom of your PAGE.... Always look on the BRIGHT side of life.... Now Practice what you PREACH....
Mom has spoken... and YES YOU CAN! Hugs BD |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post _ updated on page 2 Post by lashultzwfe on Oct 19th, 2008 at 3:15pm
Svenne,
You have all our prayers coming your way!!! Shultz Family |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post _ updated on page 2 Post by Callico on Oct 19th, 2008 at 11:07pm
we're behind you Svenn! Hang on, it will progressively get better.
Jerry |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post _ updated on page 2 Post by The Mad Viking on Oct 20th, 2008 at 12:50am
Pete
Thanks a lot for the help and assistanse you gsvr mr last night when i was about to freak out.If not for you and what you did i would have been back om the damn morphineshots again.From the bottom of my heart THANK YOU |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post _ updated on page 2 Post by Pixie-elf on Oct 20th, 2008 at 12:59am
We're all still thinking about you and sending prayers/good thoughts your way Svenn. It's hard, but you're a viking, and by God, vikings are awesome.
I don't remember where I was going with the viking thing... |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post _ updated on page 2 Post by purpleydog on Oct 20th, 2008 at 1:27am
Svenn, please hang in there. You've got many people looking out for you, and we need you! I know this is not easy. If it was easy, someone else would be doing it. You are one of the strongest guys I know. You've been there for me, and many others too. Let us hold you up, we've got you my viking friend. [smiley=hug.gif]
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Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post _ updated on page 2 Post by gizmo on Oct 21st, 2008 at 2:58pm
Svenn still needs all the prayers, good vibes, ... however you call it.
Please include his supporters too. Oliver |
Title: Re: Clarifying Svenn's Post _ updated on page 2 Post by Charlie on Oct 21st, 2008 at 6:54pm
Vibes and stuff for you Svenn. I know you're gonna get on top of this thing but keep in touch. The more the merrier.
Hold on friend. Charlie |
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