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Maybe this has been discussed already (sorry; I'm a little late to the show  ), but if you have Dish Network there is actually an Obama channel. What I have seen on it is just a running "loop" of a political ad...but it's very smart! I wonder if it will be the same (or a similar) ad that's planned for the networks? It's called "Obama's Plan for America." If you're interested and have Dish Network...the Obama Channel is channel 73.

:-?

Yep

That....is freakin eerie. :o

Melissa wrote on Oct 28^th, 2008 at 7:54pm:

That....is freakin eerie. :o

Hes the Messiah, the One, the all mighty.....where have you been?.....LMAO!  :-*

And right before it - channel 72 - is the Kim Jong Il channel. All Kim, all the time.

It's in the bank of channels called "Socialist/Communist Dictators and Wannabes."

wrote on Oct 28^th, 2008 at 7:59pm:

And right before it - channel 72 - is the Kim Jong Il channel. All Kim, all the time.

ROTFF.....Now thats fuckin funny, Brew....LOL  ;D

Isn't there some sort of rules about channels, media outlets,  having equal access for each candidate? (The Fairness Doctrine?)

If so, does Mccain have the right to have ad time on the Obama channel??

Honestly, this seems like foul play.  (not that I expect it really matters).

Don't forget, tomorrow night will be a 30 min. Obama infommercial on NBC, FOX & CBS at 8pm est time.

Make sure you DVR/Tivo it!!!!!

I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone.

Melissa wrote on Oct 28^th, 2008 at 8:48pm:

Don't forget, tomorrow night will be a 30 min. Obama infommercial on NBC, FOX & CBS at 8pm est time. Make sure you DVR/Tivo it!!!!! I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone.

Is that going to run while the world series is on?

Does the world series begin at 8pm est time?

ETA: from Yahoo...

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The Obama campaign bought time on CBS, NBC and Fox for $1 million per network. In Fox's case, the ad will precede the resumption of rain-suspended Game 5 of the World Series in Philadelphia.

I don't know about the other networks. :-/

Do you think they'll run the Obamercial on the Obama channel? Or even more importantly, will they run something different on the Obama channel while the Obamercial runs? And perhaps most importantly, who will be watching the Obama channel while the Obamercial is running?

And by the way, the commish of baseball agreed to postpone the start of the game tomorrow night to accommodate The One. That's the bullshit I can't believe.

Obamavision, it's what's for dinner!  ...and breakfast, and lunch, and snacks, for while you are on the potty, to sprinkle on your carpets for that new carpet smell, polishes silver in a jiffy and leaves no ring around the collar!!!



(sorry, I just couldn't help myself :-[)

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As a thank you to ABC, Ill be watching Pushing Daisies tomorrow at 8pm EST.  I have never seen the show nor do I know anything about it, but I honestly cant imagine wanting to watch 30 minutes of a guy telling us what he knows he wont be able to get accomplished.

If you want to know what Obama is going to do... dont read his website, dont listen to him...... read the Democratic platform.  Pelosi et al will be running this country.

Hang on to you collective asses.  Within two years, this may be the only channel we will be allowed to watch.  At least it will be freel.

FramCire wrote on Oct 28^th, 2008 at 9:15pm:

As a thank you to ABC, Ill be watching Pushing Daisies tomorrow at 8pm EST.  I have never seen the show nor do I know anything about it,

Pushing Daisies is a wonderful show!  It's like trying to solve a puzzle each time, the story is told much differently than other shows out there.  I love it myself. :)

Of course, nothing compares with LOST for me, I wish it was Feb. already... :(

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  Are you cheating on us again Mel?    LOL

But Obama himself acknowledges that he was drawn to socialists and even Marxists as a college student. He continued to associate with Marxists later in life, even choosing to launch his political career in the living room of a self-described Marxist, William Ayers, in 1995, when Obama was 34.

This is a good read.....LOL  ;)

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Linda_Howell wrote on Oct 28^th, 2008 at 9:22pm:

Quote: on a different website I frequent:   Are you cheating on us again Mel?    LOL

*sigh*  Just a little bit.  Promise you won't hurt me??

wrote on Oct 28^th, 2008 at 7:56pm:

Melissa wrote on Oct 28th, 2008 at 7:54pm: That....is freakin eerie. :o Hes the Messiah, the One, the all mighty.....where have you been?.....LMAO!  :-*

He is also the wealth-re-distributor!  You should read some of his oratations on the subject.  I almost  [smiley=hurl.gif] when I saw the Obamanation channel.  With crap like ACORN we are in deep sheep in this country because the elections will be a joke from here on out.

-P.

Why does it feel like we are being sold in bridge in the sahara.......

And as usual the people on both sides go bleat bleat bleat - sheep to a slaughter.

Cat

Just Plain Carl wrote on Oct 28^th, 2008 at 9:17pm:

Hang on to you collective asses.  Within two years, this may be the only channel we will be allowed to watch.  At least it will be freel.

Free?  Ya gotta be kidding.  That's why they invented taxes.  

-P.

Im banking on the "Bradley effect"  ;)

I have Dish Network and have seen Obama 24/7.  Didn't realize not everyone was seeing it.

catlind wrote on Oct 28^th, 2008 at 10:01pm:

Why does it feel like we are being sold in bridge in the sahara....... And as usual the people on both sides go bleat bleat bleat - sheep to a slaughter. Cat

While the politicians in Washington gained a 13% INCREASE in net worth last year while the rest of us lost economic ground.  2/3 rds of congressmen are millionaires  60% compared to 1% of the general population.  And folks wonder why the pols don't give a shit.  Let the people eat cake...we can sell it to them and tax it!  LOL.

-P.

"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully," the Democratic presidential candidate wrote in his memoir, "Dreams From My Father." "The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists."

Those words aren't from FOX News, or Rush, it's Obama himself.

How utterly insane is it that this man is 7 days away from becoming President-elect?

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We are about to elect a man who says he picks his friends CAREFULLY.  Friends like Ayers, Rezco, Wright and too many others to believe.  How careful was that?

We are about to elect a man who is counting on class warfare to sweep him into office.  He is promising to increase the size of government.  He says the biggest failure of the Civil Rights movement was their failure to institute redistributive change through the courts.  START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to or END PRINTPAGE  

Every time he is asked about FACTS from the past, he says it's just Republican scare mongering.  The main stream media plays along and refuses to entertain the notion of any kind of investigative work regarding Obama.  In fact, all they do is cover how 'evil' the Republicans are for ASKING!  Holy shit, we are so screwed.

I think the people who believe they are sticking it to the 'rich' by voting in this kind of redistributive policy (socialism goes by many names) are fools.  They are only hurting themselves.  Rich people do not get hurt by this, they move their wealth away from the economy and every single person who can't afford to do that will feel the pain.

And that's how I feel about.  Feel free to tell your neighbors.

Obamanation is an abomination. >:(

An Obama Channel? Thanks kids. It hasn't been anywhere in the news here, papers or TV. Hilarious! The guy is like an infomercial.  You're right kids. No matter what, we'll have a hard time getting away from him.  8-)

He's my guy but I have serious doubts that a 1/2 hour program will be helpful. The last candidate that had that much money and did one of those was Ross Perot.  :o

Charlie

Just Plain Carl wrote on Oct 28^th, 2008 at 9:17pm:

Hang on to you collective asses.  Within two years, this may be the only channel we will be allowed to watch.  At least it will be freel.

Yes and be sure to take your government provided "vitamin" supplements.  Remember we all labor for the collective good of all humanity......... This is really starting to sound like the beginnings of a THX 1138 type of society.  I'm actually more than a little frightened.  Time to bring the guns back home and get my barricades ready.......  :-/

wrote on Oct 28^th, 2008 at 10:06pm:

Im banking on the "Bradley effect"  ;)

And I'm assuming that the 201K effect will overcome the Bradley effect.  ;) ;)

This talk about socialism is nonsense - I heard McCain give a speech where he criticized Obama's socialism in one sentence, and 2 or 3 sentences later, he was criticizing Bush for not redistributing enough money to keep people from getting their homes foreclosed on.  If McCain came out with an objective definition of socialism, he would be one - and Palin has long been for leeching your money for Alaskans:


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It's not clear to me how the State of Alaska 'owns' oil on federal lands - the US people own that oil.  But Alaska does a good job of taxing our oil and redistributing the profits to their people.  I guess that the American consumer won't miss a few billion dollars.


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Raised taxes, redistributed profits, rejected private ownership, and the business community compared her to Hugo Chavez in March (before they had any idea she would be nominated) - that's some resume to campaign on a platform of "my opponent is a dirty socialist!"

There is an Obama channel!  He has advertised on Playstation games!  He's doing an infomercial tonight!

Why aren't more people questioning this??  This should raise red flags for EVERYONE!

I go by gut instinct a lot and this just isn't sitting right with me at ALL.

monty wrote on Oct 29^th, 2008 at 10:23am:

This talk about socialism is nonsense

Whatever you have to tell yourself so you know you're voting for the right guy. Rationalization is the second strongest human drive.

I'd much rather see a pres/vice pres combo that stand up for the rights of special needs kids than one who stands for the extermination of them.

Whatever you have to tell yourself....

Now go vote - before you change your mind.

You have to remember it is easier for a lot of folks to give up their freedom in exchange for some one to "take care" of them.  The federal government has done a good job of culling the ability to think and provide for ourselves right out of the population.  It's over people.  

Melissa wrote on Oct 29^th, 2008 at 10:34am:

There is an Obama channel!  He has advertised on Playstation games!  He's doing an infomercial tonight! Why aren't more people questioning this??  This should raise red flags for EVERYONE! I go by gut instinct a lot and this just isn't sitting right with me at ALL.

Beyond your emotion-based objection, why should we question any of this?  Is buying advertising time or space a violation of some law?  When a political party wants to put out its message, is that not protected speech under the First Amendment?  

monty wrote on Oct 29^th, 2008 at 10:54am:

Melissa wrote on Oct 29th, 2008 at 10:34am: There is an Obama channel!  He has advertised on Playstation games!  He's doing an infomercial tonight! Why aren't more people questioning this??  This should raise red flags for EVERYONE! I go by gut instinct a lot and this just isn't sitting right with me at ALL. Beyond your emotion-based objection, why should we question any of this?  Is buying advertising time or space a violation of some law?  When a political party wants to put out its message, is that not protected speech under the First Amendment?

It's dangerous because too many Americans are too stupid to seperate fact from fiction.  

"I seen it on the Tee Vee, it's gotta be true!"

monty wrote on Oct 29^th, 2008 at 10:54am:

Melissa wrote on Oct 29th, 2008 at 10:34am: There is an Obama channel!  He has advertised on Playstation games!  He's doing an infomercial tonight! Why aren't more people questioning this??  This should raise red flags for EVERYONE! I go by gut instinct a lot and this just isn't sitting right with me at ALL. Beyond your emotion-based objection, why should we question any of this?  Is buying advertising time or space a violation of some law?  When a political party wants to put out its message, is that not protected speech under the First Amendment?

Ah yes, the First Amendment.  


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Amendment I Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Was the First Amendment written for the American people or for the government??  All I'm saying is when a politican excessively uses the media to forward his/her political gain, that it should be QUESTIONED.

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It's dangerous because too many Americans are too stupid to seperate fact from fiction.   "I seen it on the Tee Vee, it's gotta be true!"

You, sir, are an elitist.

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Was the First Amendment written for the American people or for the government??  All I'm saying is when a politican excessively uses the media to forward his/her political gain, that it should be QUESTIONED.

The First Amendment was written to protect speech, particularly political speech.  

Politicians have always used advertising and the media to get their message out - the only thing that is slightly different is that there are new media that are selling advertising opportunities that were not available ten or twenty years ago.

If anything, having a half hour talk (or debates, or other longer formats) addresses that common concern that most political commercials are superficial, while the media focuses on clever sound bites.  Maybe McCain should do the same and buy half-hour blocks of time to present his case to the voters??    

Someone commented on the whole scope of political advertising after an article I read and here's what they wrote:


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That presidential candidates even have to ‘advertise’ their positions instead of the media providing that service as a condition of FCC licensure like it is supposed to be is the problem. That’s right, folks. The media is supposed to be providing this service FREE to all qualified candidates in equal amounts. Given that ‘advertising’ of their positions is the biggest expense for campaigns, the real solution to campaign finance reform is to quit paying millions of dollars to media in order for the public to be better informed of candidates positions and policies.

And I concur!!!

BTW Monty, why are telling me ANYthing about McCain??  Do you think I am voting for him?

monty wrote on Oct 29^th, 2008 at 11:11am:

The First Amendment was written to protect speech, particularly political speech.

Yes, speaking out against the government, the right to dissent.  

The 'fairness doctrine' was repealed in 1987. While we can discuss whether broadcast media that uses the airwaves (radio and non-cable TV) should give equal time to each candidate, there is no such law or regulation.  Conservatives in particular tend to find that idea objectionable and they worked effectively to have it eliminated.

Let me amend my statement: should any candidate that wishes to make his (or her) case directly to the voters be prohibited from buying airtime to do so?  


Melissa wrote on Oct 29^th, 2008 at 11:24am:

monty wrote on Oct 29th, 2008 at 11:11am: The First Amendment was written to protect speech, particularly political speech.   Yes, speaking out against the government, the right to dissent.

Yes, that. But not just that - the right to propose new policies, the right to advocate for different candidates, even the right to promote shampoo and chewing gum.

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Let me amend my statement: should any candidate that wishes to make his (or her) case directly to the voters be prohibited from buying airtime to do so?

monty, define propaganda for me and then answer your own question.

monty wrote on Oct 29^th, 2008 at 11:03am:

Quote: It's dangerous because too many Americans are too stupid to seperate fact from fiction.   "I seen it on the Tee Vee, it's gotta be true!" You, sir, are an elitist.

No, that label is reserved for those fine ladies and gentlemen in Washington who are far more in touch with what I need and what I should do to live a productive life for there designed end.

Melissa wrote on Oct 29^th, 2008 at 11:39am:

Quote: Let me amend my statement: should any candidate that wishes to make his (or her) case directly to the voters be prohibited from buying airtime to do so?   monty, define propaganda for me and then answer your own question.

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Propaganda is any communication that attempts to persuade. Many people equate propaganda with false statements, but that is not accurate - propaganda may be true or false, or it may involve values that cannot be proven either true or false.  Speeches like the annual State of the Union and the Gettysburg Address are inherently propaganda, and not necessarily lies or evil.  People should be able to hear such 'propaganda' from candidates and decide for themselves.

To put it in other terms, of course the candidates are going to toot their own horn.  It's a job interview, and the job of the selection committee (us) is to vet their claims.

To answer my own question, no.  I think that to have a functioning political system, candidates need to be able actually make claims and promote ideas. This may be as low-level as a bumper sticker or yard sign, speeches (which may require renting an auditorium or broadcasting the speech) or however the candidate chooses to communicate with and convince the voters.

It's not much of a job interview if the interview is only listenting and not allowed to ask any tough questions.  It's not much of a job interview if the interviewer gets BANNED for asking tough questions.  What a joke.

I have yet to hear Obama answer even one question directly.  Not that it matters, Clinton never did either.  Gee, both were lawyers.... what a shock.

I'm not worried about socialist attacks on Obama. Warren Buffett isn't worried either. Republicans and other right wing parties resort to calling opponents socialist or Marxist if they feel a bit shakey. Younger voters aren't so susceptible to this. They have found what looks like someone a little more interested in at least a few things they like or need; he's different. Youngsters like different.

They only thing Republicans have to fear is that fear....like wrapping oneself in the flag...doing so this time isn't working because that group has already made up its mind..... isn't doing well this time. To young voters, it's overkill. It works on guys my age maybe, but not them.

Should Obama win, the GOP has only one person to blame and of course it's Bush. It's stunning just how much damage one man and his neo-con pals have done to the GOP.  

Charlie........who still has doubts about the Obama show. Maybe I'm too old to appreciate the idea.

Obama's Kenyan aunt found in a Boston slum... Developing...

;)

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BINGO!  8-)

It's ok.  In a few months he'll be sending her a check (of your money).

aww... just got my sample ballot and NJ Weedman isn't on it at all this year!  :D :D :D

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Just what does it tell you that Obama just wont say to the LA Times "Release the video".......Hmmmmm!

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BTW: Did I mention that Bill Ayres is on the video?.....oh yeah, I did! ;)

It's time for the reverend Wright marathon.

Red Fox and popcorn anyone? :D

wrote on Oct 29^th, 2008 at 8:34pm:

It's time for the reverend Wright marathon. Red Fox and popcorn anyone? :D

LMMFAO!!!! ;D ;D ;D :D ;D ;D ;D

Where does all this conservative stuff come from on this board? Conservative I understand but this stuff isn't conservative. It comes out of talk radio's worst practitioners. We all know that it's the Rush Limbaugh side that makes the most noise. Still, some of the stuff here comes right out of Dennis Miller's end of the spectrum.

There is a big difference between simple and simplistic.

Charlie

The only time Libaugh's show is worth listening to for anything other than pure entertainment is when Walter Williams is hosting, that guy should be in charge of the Treasury.

Agostino Leyre wrote on Oct 30^th, 2008 at 12:04pm:

The only time Libaugh's show is worth listening to for anything other than pure entertainment is when Walter Williams is hosting, that guy should be in charge of the Treasury.

100% agreement from me.....

B

Racer1_NC wrote on Oct 30^th, 2008 at 12:06pm:

Agostino Leyre wrote on Oct 30th, 2008 at 12:04pm: The only time Libaugh's show is worth listening to for anything other than pure entertainment is when Walter Williams is hosting, that guy should be in charge of the Treasury. 100% agreement from me..... B

If he had the key to the check book, we wouldn't have any deficit problems or national debt for long.

Charlie wrote on Oct 29^th, 2008 at 10:57pm:

Where does all this conservative stuff come from on this board? Conservative I understand but this stuff isn't conservative. It comes out of talk radio's worst practitioners. We all know that it's the Rush Limbaugh side that makes the most noise. Still, some of the stuff here comes right out of Dennis Miller's end of the spectrum. There is a big difference between simple and simplistic. Charlie

Um, I would prefer to listen to NPR than hear Rush, Charlie.  Much of my information comes from reading many articles from both the left and right.

Read what Obama has said and written in the past, his views, learn who his mentors were, who his friends are and what his voting reccord is.  THAT information will give a person a pretty good idea of the character and beliefs of an individual.

-P.

Charlie,

Those of us who have the luxury of viewing the videos that are found and posted of past Obama speeches or other factual data probably have a more learned perspective on Obama than those who can't.

In my opinion, this is one of the factors that the Obama camp is counting on... the class warfare bullshit only works well on those who can't find out the real facts on Obama.  Since their media isn't telling the truth and they don't have access to the other sources that will publish it (like LiveLeak), they are easier to manipulate than the more critical thinkers who do have access to that information.

I don't listen to Rush, but sometimes I read about what he has recently said, and it makes me do my own research.  Same deal for NPR (which my car radio tends to gravitate towards mostly because I can't stand commercials).  I can listen to those left wing nut jobs and still form my own opinion just as well as I can listen to right wing nut jobs and form my own opinion.

Obama is not qualified to be president (subjective statement, don't throw technical BS into it, I'm saying I don't believe he is presidential material), he has too many questionable relationships, and I fundamentally disagree on his policies.  He represents everything that is wrong with the left.  That is my own opinion, not Rush, not Hannity, not yours.  Mine.  I don't agree with everything that McCain says, and I think he is an a-hole for voting yes on the bailout, but the only way for me to not effectively vote for Obama is to vote for McCain, and I can live with that.

I just began with NPR. I'm not a regular. I never listen to radio during the day other than news. I never have my sound on here for that matter. I susupect it has something to do with my seizures. My father had them too and he was the same way. I just don't like the competition I guess.  8-)

Anyway, you guys have worn me out. Trying to watch Buffalo news broadcasts during the election is barely worth it. I've never seen anything this bad. I'm referring to State elections. This is the first time in many years that the NYS Senate may switch from GOP to Democrat and it's a bloodbath. Our State politics makes the national look like a cub scout meeting.  Geeze.

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I can't wait until Wednesday.  I need a break.

We finally have something we can agree on. ;)