Obama's comments about a national security force came during a speech in Colorado about building a new civil service corps. Among other things, he called for expanding the nation's foreign service and doubling the size of the Peace Corps "to renew our diplomacy."

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," Obama said in July. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

Broun said he also believes Obama likely will move to ban gun ownership if he does build a national police force.

Obama has said he respects the Second Amendment right to bear arms and favors "common sense" gun laws. Gun rights advocates interpret that as meaning he'll at least enact curbs on ownership of assault weapons and concealed weapons. As an Illinois state lawmaker, Obama supported a ban on semiautomatic weapons and tighter restrictions on firearms generally.

"We can't be lulled into complacency," Broun said. "You have to remember that Adolf Hitler was elected in a democratic Germany. I'm not comparing him to Adolf Hitler. What I'm saying is there is the potential."

Now, check out this video (Oct 22, 2008) of the head of the militia in Ohio

My question to you is: IF the people rose up against the goverment, do you think the military would cut us down?

Its a fair question!, no?

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yes. i cant watch the videpo but look what they did to those people in waco. it seems that when the second amendment is brought  up it's always tied into hunting. the second amrendent has nothing to do with hunting.  the right to bare arms and form a militia. its sounds crazy nowadays but it wasn't so crazy backwhen the constitution was writen. keep in mind though jonny the reps dislike the militia part just as much as the libs dislike the gun part.

It wasn't the military that cut down the people in Waco, it was the DEA and the FBI same as at Ruby Ridge.

And no, being married to an active duty member of the USAF, I do not believe the military would cut down the citizens.  1) it is illegal to use the military on US soil, that's the job of the national guard 2) most active duty military have sworn an oath to uphold and defend the CONSTITUTION of the United States of America, against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC - every one that I know takes that oath very seriously and would question any order given to them that is unlawful and any officer (including the commander in chief) who issued an unlawful order.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Cat

I do not think that we will need to test this idea.........

I think our NATIONAL Guard should be strengthened HERE and not sent overseas. As for a militia - isn't that what the National Guard is? They're called out for National emergencies and uprisings in Domestic things.

As far as gun control goes. These "underground" societies are going to get weapons (regardless of what laws are enacted). I see no reason anyone needs to own a machine gun for "personal use" or an assualt weapon either for that reason. I have an arsenal at my house and as far as I know, none are even registered (a lot I've had for 100 years - some are family heirlooms).

I'm sure there are reasons (military ones) for some weapons, but in the hands of these "rebels" who do not recognize OUR constitution or the laws of the US - in my opinion, they need to be stopped. I'm speaking of the "cults" who brainwash ignorant people into believing they're standing up for the good of mankind or something or nuther. Joe Jones, Waco, Ruby Ridge -- these things need to be stopped, but making new laws isn't going to stop them. FBI and DEA are only going to make "heros" out of them (they'd screw up a train wreck). These people are dangerous to our country and need to be rooted out and stopped before they harm more innocent people. That's where we NEED a National Guard (or militia) - to protect our National Interest.

And that's my 2 cents worth.

Hugs BD

nd that's my 2 cents worth.

Hugs BD

Thats about 50 cents worth.  couldn't agree with you more.

                               JPC

BarbaraD wrote on Nov 12^th, 2008 at 11:03am:

. As for a militia - isn't that what the National Guard is?

Nope.

Quote:

"We can't be lulled into complacency," Broun said. "You have to remember that Adolf Hitler was elected in a democratic Germany. I'm not comparing him to Adolf Hitler. What I'm saying is there is the potential."

Beyond stupid


I believe it refers to not letting the assault weapons ban expire.......I think

Please! No more internal secret police or militia. We already have enough of this shit. You can't run through a red light in Buffalo without getting on city video and this thing goes only in one direction. I am hoping that Obama is referring to his idea of a C. C. C. style program.

I've met some militia types over the years. Most of them are pretty silly but the ones that aren't can be scary. Lots of neat weaponry these guys have though. I hope they use them to tear apart 55 gallon drums rather than softer targets.

It's impossible to ban guns in this country.

Charlie

Charlie wrote on Nov 12^th, 2008 at 8:27pm:

Quote: "We can't be lulled into complacency," Broun said. "You have to remember that Adolf Hitler was elected in a democratic Germany. I'm not comparing him to Adolf Hitler. What I'm saying is there is the potential." Beyond stupid I believe it refers to not letting the assault weapons ban expire.......I think Please! No more internal secret police or militia. We already have enough of this shit. You can't run through a red light in Buffalo without getting on city video and this thing goes only in one direction. I am hoping that Obama is referring to his idea of a C. C. C. style program. I've met some militia types over the years. Most of them are pretty silly but the ones that aren't can be scary. Lots of neat weaponry these guys have though. I hope they use them to tear apart 55 gallon drums rather than softer targets. It's impossible to ban guns in this country. Charlie

I hope you refering to the gov. watching citizens.  I think there should be more citizens watching gov. if you ask me.  The melitia as the founding fathers intended was a means of last resort for the citizens to take an out of control government back if the republic the fathers set up failed.  We do not need MORE gov oversight of the people.

-P.

Charlie wrote on Nov 12^th, 2008 at 8:27pm:

I've met some militia types over the years. Most of them are pretty silly but the ones that aren't can be scary.

I guess seeing that you have shit connection to the internet, once again you could not watch the video of the BLACK leader of the Ohio militia addressing the senate.

I guess silly and scary dudes never make it to the floor of the senate, eh?

They do now! ;D

Edit to add: Charlie, with all due respect, you cant make judgement if you cant see the video in any thread, because you dont know where that person is coming from!

If you're referring the the Obama-Hitler connection....that's old and has been used by several right-winger radio screechers. I've heard it applied to others for some time. As I said; it's beyond stupid and has little relation to the way in which Hitler finally came to power. You cannot compare American democratic process to 1920s German electorate.

Charlie

Charlie wrote on Nov 12^th, 2008 at 9:17pm:

If you're referring the the Obama-Hitler connection...

Im referring to any video you cant watch.

It looks like that for some time to come, things are going to be the same. I have to remind myself all the time to spend on what I need rather than what I want. I already spend too much on this crap.

Rats.

Charlie

That's strange.  He speaks directly to Fred Thompson (even shows Fred's picture).  Ain't no way Fred Thompson was on that committee, he left the Congress in 2003.  When you watch the second part of the video, *Senator* Thompson questions Mr. Johnson.  Unless Mr. Thompson was reelected (and I can't find any evidence to support this), there is NO way this was filmed in 2008.  I find a small blurb on another website that indicates this video was made in 1995.

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medic1852 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2008 at 3:29pm:

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I read the article and being unfamiliar with the site, I still had questions about Rahm's comments potentially being taken out of context. After hearing the responses in his own words and tone of voice, I find it chilling. Isn't this still America?

Yes, I know it's from 2006, but it certainly helps illuminate the character of the man who is our next Chief of Staff in the White House.

Regardless of what you believe, as an American - this line of thinking should make you nervous - in the vey least.

Marc

deltadarlin wrote on Nov 13^th, 2008 at 8:21am:

there is NO way this was filmed in 2008.  I find a small blurb on another website that indicates this video was made in 1995.

Lets say thats true, how many more members and guns do the militia have now nearly 14 years later?  ;)

I think I can skip this prison planet moron. He comes from one of those WTC was a black ops thing that inhabit wacko screech radio.

Charlie

Charlie wrote on Nov 13^th, 2008 at 7:49pm:

I think I can skip this prison planet moron. He comes from one of those WTC was a black ops thing that inhabit wacko screech radio. Charlie

Charlie,

I'm not saying that you are wrong about this guy - never read his stuff before now. Are you saying that this particular article is not accurate? I've been digging and it appears that the info is bonafide.

Marc

Marc wrote on Nov 13^th, 2008 at 8:09pm:

Charlie wrote on Nov 13th, 2008 at 7:49pm: I think I can skip this prison planet moron. He comes from one of those WTC was a black ops thing that inhabit wacko screech radio. Charlie Charlie, I'm not saying that you are wrong about this guy - never read his stuff before now. Are you saying that this particular article is not accurate? I've been digging and it appears that the info is bonafide. Marc

Marc,

Give it up, Charlie can not watch/hear ANY video/audio.....so Charlie has to fall on whatever he reads.......And he will never believe the written word if it dont fit him.....LMAO :D

    Marc: Don't confuse Charlie with facts. His mind is made up.

Jonny's right. I tried downloading Jonny's Liveleak thing but all I got was offers to sell me stuff.

Charlie

Charlie wrote on Nov 13^th, 2008 at 8:45pm:

Jonny's right. I tried downloading Jonny's Liveleak thing but all I got was offers to sell me stuff. Charlie

LMAO.....Thats BS and you know it.....LOL ;D

Everyone here but you has watched videos.  ;)

Im tempted to pay for a faster service for you just so you can watch.....LOL

I love ya, Charlie :-*

I voted for McCain, and for Bush before him. But Obama is now my (our) president. I probably won't vote for him in 4 years, but for now, he's the man. I'm hoping we can put a lot of the bitterness of the election behind us, (not all of it I know, we are only human ;)) and get behind putting the country back together. That means we gotta stop the attacks...as fun as they are!

Guiseppi's 2 cents ;)

Charlie wrote on Nov 12^th, 2008 at 8:27pm:

a C. C. C. style program.

Under army organization, FDR's NRA had his Tree Army here in MI.    ;)

Guiseppi wrote on Nov 13^th, 2008 at 8:50pm:

That means we gotta stop the attacks.

These attacks are Bush's fault, just like everything else......LMAO  ;D

Guiseppi wrote on Nov 13^th, 2008 at 8:50pm:

I voted for McCain, and for Bush before him. But Obama is now my (our) president. I probably won't vote for him in 4 years, but for now, he's the man. I'm hoping we can put a lot of the bitterness of the election behind us, (not all of it I know, we are only human ;)) and get behind putting the country back together. That means we gotta stop the attacks...as fun as they are! Guiseppi's 2 cents ;)

And that my friends is what makes the difference between a Patriot and the "other"  I have heard many,many Hollywood actors parade around proclaim Bush was not "THEIR" president as well as many other fools on the left.  I have never heard those words spoken from any Republicians!

-P.

wrote on Nov 13^th, 2008 at 9:03pm:

Guiseppi wrote on Nov 13th, 2008 at 8:50pm: That means we gotta stop the attacks. These attacks are Bush's fault, just like everything else......LMAO  ;D

Jonny, be nice and show Mr. Obama the same respect that his party and followers showed President Bush.............

I thought teachers being paid with taxpayers money were not to take political sides in the class room.
Teacher belittles soldier's child
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Sorry Charlie :-*

Im doing my best, Marc!  ;D

Quote:

LMAO.....Thats BS and you know it.....LOL

Nope. Everytime I tried to download, nothing happened much. I kept hitting download but nothing resembling a video seemed to show.
:(
Charlie

Ok. I finally saw the videos after several tries. I don't know what I did the first time but after a looooooong time, I got them.

First: Who is Broun? I saw no reference to this person anywhere and for that matter what does this ancient stuff have to do with Obama? I thought I would be seeing something referring to him. Nope.

Barb's right by the way. This thing is old.

As for an increase in militias? I doubt it. From my reading, they have decreased for several reasons, many of them legal and that the damn things are expensive and no longer novel. Things are quieter since the 90s......much to the dismay of lesser wannabe types.

I saw the manipulated "interview" from Chicago. Lots of editing and carefully added narrative and of course emphatic written comments that have nothing to do with the interview other than that they add to the fantasy.......Brrrrrrrr. That Obama is one scary guy.

As I said: Beyond stupid and that these guys are involved in various wacko conspiracy theories and some serious anti-semitic writing kinda makes me a tad skeptical...

Charlie

Jonny is right when he alludes to the fact that the educational mechanism is preprogramming our youth to be disposed to the left side of the liberal isle without giving any credence to the rest of the isle.

Jonny is the man for consistently pointing out the injustice of this situation. I find it to be propagandistic in nature in this enlightened era. The plethora of acceptance for this way of teaching is totally unacceptable to me. I hate to say it seems almost communistic to me but than maybe the main stream thinking is just Marxist in this day in age?!?!?

PFD’s Rolo…. :)

Marc wrote on Nov 13^th, 2008 at 9:32pm:

wrote on Nov 13th, 2008 at 9:03pm: Guiseppi wrote on Nov 13th, 2008 at 8:50pm: That means we gotta stop the attacks. These attacks are Bush's fault, just like everything else......LMAO  ;D Jonny, be nice and show Mr. Obama the same respect that his party and followers showed President Bush.............

Fuck Obama and his battle axe wife (ass as wide as a hippo) who isn't and will never be proud to be an American! :)

Book don't change it's cover without a reprint! ::)

wrote on Nov 14^th, 2008 at 1:35am:

Jonny is the man for consistently pointing out the injustice of this situation.

Payback WILL be a bitch for some.....LMMFAO!!!  ;D

Heres how it will go:

As the CFO of this business that employees 140 people, I have resigned
myself to the fact that Barrack Obama will be our next President, and
that our taxes and government fees will increase in a BIG way.

To compensate for these increases, I figure that the Clients will have
to see an increase in our fees to them of about 8% but since we cannot
increase our fees right now due to the dismal state of our economy, we
will have to lay off six of our employees instead. This has really been
eating at me for a while, as we believe we are family here and I didn't
know how to choose who will have to go.

So, this is what I did. I strolled through our parking lot and found 8
Obama bumper stickers on our employees' cars and have decided these
folks will be the first to be laid off. I can't think of a more fair way
to approach this problem. These folks wanted change; I gave it to them.

If you have a better idea, let me know.

Sincerely,
                Joe The Plumber ;)


 

wrote on Nov 14^th, 2008 at 1:45am:

his battle axe wife (ass as wide as a hippo)

NOT cool.

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Charlie wrote on Nov 14^th, 2008 at 11:27pm:

Internet political video:

Did you see it?

I saw the Congressional hearing and the "interview" thing only. It was a comment on those two.

Charlie

Pimp my ride?.....LMMFAO  ;D

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wrote on Nov 14^th, 2008 at 6:32pm:

wrote on Nov 14th, 2008 at 1:35am: Jonny is the man for consistently pointing out the injustice of this situation. Payback WILL be a bitch for some.....LMMFAO!!!  ;D Heres how it will go: As the CFO of this business that employees 140 people, I have resigned myself to the fact that Barrack Obama will be our next President, and that our taxes and government fees will increase in a BIG way. To compensate for these increases, I figure that the Clients will have to see an increase in our fees to them of about 8% but since we cannot increase our fees right now due to the dismal state of our economy, we will have to lay off six of our employees instead. This has really been eating at me for a while, as we believe we are family here and I didn't know how to choose who will have to go. So, this is what I did. I strolled through our parking lot and found 8 Obama bumper stickers on our employees' cars and have decided these folks will be the first to be laid off. I can't think of a more fair way to approach this problem. These folks wanted change; I gave it to them. If you have a better idea, let me know. Sincerely,                 Joe The Plumber ;)

Jonny, did Joe really write that? ;D

wrote on Nov 16^th, 2008 at 2:45pm:

wrote on Nov 14th, 2008 at 6:32pm: wrote on Nov 14th, 2008 at 1:35am: Jonny is the man for consistently pointing out the injustice of this situation. Payback WILL be a bitch for some.....LMMFAO!!!  ;D Heres how it will go: As the CFO of this business that employees 140 people, I have resigned myself to the fact that Barrack Obama will be our next President, and that our taxes and government fees will increase in a BIG way. To compensate for these increases, I figure that the Clients will have to see an increase in our fees to them of about 8% but since we cannot increase our fees right now due to the dismal state of our economy, we will have to lay off six of our employees instead. This has really been eating at me for a while, as we believe we are family here and I didn't know how to choose who will have to go. So, this is what I did. I strolled through our parking lot and found 8 Obama bumper stickers on our employees' cars and have decided these folks will be the first to be laid off. I can't think of a more fair way to approach this problem. These folks wanted change; I gave it to them. If you have a better idea, let me know. Sincerely,                 Joe The Plumber ;) Jonny, did Joe really write that? ;D

LMMFAO....Hell no, it came unsigned...I added his name......LOL  ;D

Melissa wrote on Nov 14^th, 2008 at 8:01pm:

wrote on Nov 14th, 2008 at 1:45am: his battle axe wife (ass as wide as a hippo) NOT cool.

Sorry Mel, I shoot from the cuff and thats how I feel. :-X