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Message started by deltadarlin on Nov 29th, 2008 at 10:25am

Title: This was truly black Friday
Post by deltadarlin on Nov 29th, 2008 at 10:25am
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Title: Re: This was truly black Friday
Post by cynjeep89 on Nov 29th, 2008 at 11:00am
It's sickening to see people act like such freaking animals just so they can save a few $$.  :'(




Title: Re: This was truly black Friday
Post by KingOfPain on Nov 29th, 2008 at 11:15am
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Worker dies at Long Island, NY Wal-Mart after being trampled in Black Friday stampede
Updated Friday, November 28th 2008, 10:46 PM

A Wal-Mart worker died early Friday after an "out-of-control" mob of frenzied shoppers smashed through the Long Island store's front doors and trampled him, police said.

The Black Friday stampede plunged the Valley Stream outlet into chaos, knocking several employees to the ground and sending others scurrying atop vending machines to avoid the horde.

When the madness ended, 34-year-old Jdimytai Damour was dead and four shoppers, including a woman eight months pregnant, were injured.

"He was bum-rushed by 200 people," said Wal-Mart worker Jimmy Overby, 43.

"They took the doors off the hinges. He was trampled and killed in front of me.

"They took me down, too ... I didn't know if I was going to live through it. I literally had to fight people off my back," Overby said.

Damour, a temporary maintenance worker from Jamaica, Queens, was gasping for air as shoppers continued to surge into the store after its 5 a.m. opening, witnesses said.

Even officers who arrived to perform CPR on the trampled worker were stepped on by wild-eyed shoppers streaming inside, a cop at the scene said.

"They pushed him down and walked all over him," Damour's sobbing sister, Danielle, 41, said. "How could these people do that?

"He was such a young man with a good heart, full of life. He didn't deserve that."

Damour's sister said doctors told the family he died of a heart attack.

His cousin, Ernst Damour, called the circumstances "completely unacceptable."

"His body was a stepping bag with so much disregard for human life," Ernst Damour, 37, said. "There has to be some accountability."

Roughly 2,000 people gathered outside the Wal-Mart's doors in the predawn darkness.

Chanting "push the doors in," the crowd pressed against the glass as the clock ticked down to the 5 a.m. opening.

Sensing catastrophe, nervous employees formed a human chain inside the entrance to slow down the mass of shoppers.

It didn't work.

The mob barreled in and overwhelmed workers.

"They were jumping over the barricades and breaking down the door," said Pat Alexander, 53, of Crown Heights, Brooklyn. "Everyone was screaming. You just had to keep walking on your toes to keep from falling over."

After the throng toppled Damour, his fellow employees had to fight through the crowd to help him, police said.

Witness Kimberly Cribbs said shoppers acted like "savages."

"When they were saying they had to leave, that an employee got killed, people were yelling, 'I've been on line since Friday morning!'" Cribbs said. "They kept shopping."

When paramedics arrived, Damour's condition was grave.

"They were pumping his chest, trying to bring him back, and there was nothing," said Dennis Smokes, 36, a Wal-Mart worker.

Damour was taken to Franklin Hospital and pronounced dead at 6:03 a.m.

Hank Mullany, president of Wal-Mart's northeast division, said the company took extraordinary safety precautions.

"We expected a large crowd this morning and added additional internal security, additional third-party security, additional store associates and we worked closely with the Nassau County police," he said in a statement.

"We also erected barricades. Despite all of our precautions, this unfortunate event occurred."

The 28-year-old pregnant woman and three other shoppers were taken to area hospitals with minor injuries, police said.

In a news conference after the incident, Nassau County police spokesman Lt. Michael Fleming described the crowd as "out of control" and the scene as "utter chaos." He said Wal-Mart did not have enough security onhand.

Fleming said criminal charges were possible but that it would be difficult to identify individual shoppers in surveillance videos.

Items on sale at the Wal-Mart store included a $798 Samsung 50-inch Plasma HDTV, a Bissel Compact Upright Vacuum for $28 and Men's Wrangler Tough Jeans for $8.

The Long Island store reopened at 1 p.m. and was packed within minutes.

"I look at these people's faces and I keep thinking one of them could have stepped on him," said one employee. "How could you take a man's life to save $20 on a TV?"

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Title: Re: This was truly black Friday
Post by BarbaraD on Nov 29th, 2008 at 11:28am
This is totally unreal to me. Are people f'n crazy???

Hugs BD

Title: Re: This was truly black Friday
Post by deltadarlin on Nov 29th, 2008 at 11:39am
Ah, so now it's Wal Marts fault for not haivng enough security?  What happened to personal responsibility?  

Title: Re: This was truly black Friday
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Nov 29th, 2008 at 11:49am
Jesus H Christ.  I think the holiday season brings out the worst in people.  I don't go out at all in the month of December because it's the rudest bunch of selfish pricks at every store.  You feel like you are in Robocop with all the looting, fighting and pissyness.

Happy Holidays
:-/

Title: Re: This was truly black Friday
Post by Marc on Nov 29th, 2008 at 11:52am

deltadarlin wrote on Nov 29th, 2008 at 11:39am:
Ah, so now it's Wal Marts fault for not haivng enough security?  What happened to personal responsibility?  


I couldn't agree with you more. This is a display of personal greed and selfishness honed to fine edge.........

And of course it's the "greedy corporation's" fault.

Title: Re: This was truly black Friday
Post by debOUCH on Nov 29th, 2008 at 11:56am
that happened on Long Island, not too far from me, say west, like 40 miles.................sickos!

Title: Re: This was truly black Friday
Post by cash5542 on Nov 29th, 2008 at 12:00pm
In 1979, my senior year of high school,  I was working in a large dept store (Bamberger's, part of the Macy's group). I was seriously considering some kind of fashion marketing field. I had 2 years of fashion design and marketing and was heading in that direction. The months and long hours around Christmas changed my life direction. It was and always has been utter chaos. I wonder what would happen if the sales weren't all stacked (or made to look that way) on one day. The news this morning said the best deals actually will be in the coming weeks. I'll wait for that or stick with internet!

Charlotte

Title: Re: This was truly black Friday
Post by KingOfPain on Nov 29th, 2008 at 12:23pm
UPDATED - Walmart Statement on Black Friday Incident at Valley Stream Store
Last Updated: Friday, November 28, 2008

We expected a large crowd this morning and added additional internal security, additional third party security, additional store associates and we worked closely with the Nassau County Police. We also erected barricades. Despite all of our precautions, this unfortunate event occurred.

"Our thoughts and prayers go out to the family of the deceased. We are continuing to work closely with local law enforcement and we are reaching out to those involved."

- Hank Mullany, Senior Vice President and President, Northeast Division, Walmart U.S.

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Title: Re: This was truly black Friday
Post by Cathi_Pierce on Nov 29th, 2008 at 12:56pm
I refer to myself during this season, as a Retail widow. Although Gil is retired from good ole Ma Bell, he chooses to keep working........well, he signed a non-compete clause, so he's in Retail........
It's a different world out there. People at this time of year, begin to panic. In gil's case, he is Gen Mgr of a Framing and Art Supply store. People are upset when he tells his customers their gift will take 2 weeks to complete..they hit the OVERHEAD......."well, I need  it early to mail"......what? Why didn't they come in earlier then? If one needs a CUsTOM item, doesn't that indicated it will take man-hours?? That's just one of the attitudes he deals with.it's not pretty, I assure you!

This death, however, is absolutely the lowest of human denominators. can you imagine, opening your gifts, knowing someone died so YOU could get into a store a bit early?  " YEAH, I got it on sale, and someone died for it>....."not something I would want on my conscience!

Personally, I think stores should go back to a Mon-Sat schedule ALL YEAR.......and keep hours at the 9=9..or even less......we'll FIND a way to get in during store hours......and, let's not 'whip up" the consumers to the point where they have a compulsion to leave their Thnaksgiving table, in order to get in on Midnight madness!! .....it's a special day, even WITHOUT  the special gifts.....
Here in Oregon, the crowds were a LOT smaller than anticipated, retailers were a bit disappointed........is that the economy or people saying ENOUGH!!???

OH, and 1 more thing..........patience, everyone.......

I blame retail as well as the consumers.........

Cathi >:(angry at humanity

Title: Re: This was truly black Friday
Post by Melissa on Nov 29th, 2008 at 1:13pm
Fucking disgusting. >:(  

That is why I steered way clear of Walmart yesterday.  If I know any better, I'd say the same inconsiderate assholes I run into there on a normal shopping day are 10x worse for Black Friday.

I went to one of their competitors instead.  People were very friendly there for the most part!

Title: Re: This was truly black Friday
Post by Rolomatic on Nov 29th, 2008 at 1:58pm
My favorite is the one's who think it's OK to shop out of your cart when your not looking... >:(

Add:

My wife asked the big no-no (why don’t you come shopping with me?).

I thought for a second and uttered “name one man you know that likes to shop”

Yea, I got the usual look…. ::)

Title: Re: This was truly black Friday
Post by stevegeebe on Nov 29th, 2008 at 2:04pm
My God.  

When I first heard the news of this I was stunned but not surprised. Can you be that?

Additional thoughts of this indecent have me thinking beyond this tragic display of the Human pack mentality. How we have evolved.  Or have we?  That silly old brain stem.

I also wonder how this is prompted by the constant bombardment by a mindset insisting that in order to be fulfilled, happy, or otherwise alive, we need to consume. Greed begets greed.

Can you imagine what the discussion was like at Wal-mart?...Okay..how long till we reopen? ..."our thoughts go out to the family of the deceased."  How about a name...how about a monument?  Sad in so many ways.

I could go on but it's raining and I really should go stir the compost bins.

Steve G






Title: Re: This was truly black Friday
Post by deltadarlin on Nov 29th, 2008 at 2:19pm
We ahve had two Wal Mart Super Centers for many years.  To my knowledge, nothing like this has ever happened (it looks like that Wal Mart is a smaller one and pretty new).  In fact, the last *set to* that I can remember was in Toys R' Us, over a frickin' baby doll, no less.

Title: Re: This was truly black Friday
Post by AnnaH on Nov 29th, 2008 at 2:22pm
Wow thats crazy. I'm glad I do my shopping early.

Title: Re: This was truly black Friday
Post by flipperlips on Nov 29th, 2008 at 4:35pm
Very, very sad  >:(  I went shopping once on Black Friday and I'll never go again.  People plowing into you, taking things out of your cart.  It's ridiculous.

Title: Re: This was truly black Friday
Post by Charlie on Nov 29th, 2008 at 7:31pm
It's a different world and pretty sad.

On one of our family's rare visits to New York, we crawled through Macy's on black friday. Of course this was November 1962. It wasn't something we had to worry about and I guess the malls are the place for all the bad behavior anyway.  :-/

No Cabbage Patch dolls or Star Wars toys to fight over 46 years ago either.

Charlie

Title: Re: This was truly black Friday
Post by LeLimey on Nov 30th, 2008 at 1:35pm

Melissa wrote on Nov 29th, 2008 at 1:13pm:
Fucking disgusting. >:(  


I've never ever seen you swear before Mel - and I agree 100%.

What a complete and utter waste of a life. What a tragedy, not just for this man and his fmaily but for all of us if this is how people behave.


Title: Re: This was truly black Friday
Post by barry_sword on Nov 30th, 2008 at 3:49pm
It's disgusting to say the least. >:(
Here is another incident at a different Wal-Mart on black friday.

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Here is another one but from an inside camera at a Circuit City store. Check out how the people just keep on coming and coming  :o

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These people are crazy!!!!!!! [smiley=yikes.gif]




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