Bring on the thermal underwear, nose-cicles and hot chocolate!!

:D

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Gee Mel, is that this morning? -5 .. It's 15 here...

Been wearing them for two weeks already!! I'm a freeze baby :D

it's just around the freezing mark here this morning, but we are under a snow squall warning for the next 48 hours. :P

I have my shovel tuned up and ready for our second storm of the year!!!  :D

Mel, dahhhhlink, I think I may have said this before, but here it is again:

KWITCHERBITCHIN

:P    :-*

Chuck

ClusterChuck wrote on Dec 4^th, 2008 at 7:51am:

Mel, dahhhhlink, I think I may have said this before, but here it is again: KWITCHERBITCHIN :P    :-* Chuck

Chuck, now where on earth can you point out I wuz bitchin?  hmmmmmm?? :P

And here I thought it was cold here this morning at 24 degrees  ;)

It's currently 8 degrees here.

Plenty of snow cover and sun galore.  It's Winter in Wisconsin!

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It's still making it up to around 40○ here in the afternoon.   You all are making me jealous with that beautiful snow.  We don't get too much of that around here anymore.   I swear we had more snowy winters when I was a kid.  I LOVE it!  Of course, I get to work from my home so I don't have to drive in it.  WARNING!!!! People in St. Louis CANNOT drive when ANYTHING falls from the sky.

Jeannie

House question for you snow dwellers (since I will be one in the not too distant future).  If your house is on a raised foundation, how do you keep the pipes from freezing?  Is it just a matter of good insulation on the pipes or does the crawl space warm up once the snow covers the foundation vents?

Bob,

Most of the houses in the larger cities have full basements and the furnace usually keeps it warm enough to keep the pipes from freezing. As for crawl spaces, an electrical "heat tape" can be used to keep the pipes from freezing. Vacation homes up North are usually winterized by blowing out the pipes and putting antifreeze in the toilets.

Did anyone ever notice a lot of babies up here are born in Sept/Oct?

That's another way to stay warm ;) Both my boys are September babies ::)

Jimmers

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Both my boys are September babies ::) Jimmers

Too cold to run to the drug store? ;D

Using one of 'those" is like taking a shower with your socks on! :D

Jimmers

Mine is going to be a year round living house.  It will just have a crawl space underneath.  I am planning on a hydronic radiant heated floor, under hardwood, so maybe if I keep the pipes (here they use PEX) up tight against the underside of the heated floor and then the insulation between the floor joist covering the tubing it will be ok.

No snow at my lot yet but the nights are in the low 20's.

Where are you moving to, Bob?

That is not a very effective source of heat, Bob.  Radiant floor heat with a heat pump for heat and an insulated tank to hold water is probably the most efficient way to heat........however, wood is not a very good conductor of heat.  

In fact, wood is actually a good insulator because it does such a poor job of conducting heat.  

I am SO glad you folks are talking degrees Celsius.  I would not want someone to think it is actually cold here.

Phew, I need to put a "T" shirt on this balmy weather is making me sweat. ::)

-P.

Actually B$, particle board transfers heat quite well. The new composite wood floors work ok in the IFH applications I have seen here in Minnesota. ;)

I'm using this:
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and a Takagi tankless water heater that is 94% efficient.  I'm backing it up with a "Fireplace Extrordinaire" that can pump out 80K Btuh.

In cold weather heat pumps suck unless you're putting in geothermal ground loops for heat transfer.

I'm building in Clio, Calif., in the northern Sierra, about 45 miles northwest of the Trukee/Tahoe area.

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My main concern was my domestic cold water lines but I think doing what I said above will work.  Guess I should just ask the neighbors what they're doing.

<pondering>..........

Weird.  

Tankless, huh?  
Does water circulate all the time or does the water only circulate when the thermostat falls below temp?  
What temp will the water in the pipes be at delivery?
No tank at all??

And then you have another tankless for the faucets?

Hmmmmm.........

Here's the heater:
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You can do it 2 ways:
Direct - where the heating water circulates in the floor loops (only when the thermostat calls and starts a circ pump) and the domestic hot is Tee'd off of this, through a tempering valve and then to the faucets.

Indirect - where the heating loop is closed and heated by the domestic hot water via a heat exchanger.

As for temperature - you can reset the temp based on outside air temp, the colder it is outside the hotter the water gets.  They generally run fairly low temp, 110-140 degrees and the circ pumps are only fractional horsepower.  Also easy to make different heating zones within the house.  I'm planning on one zone for the master suite, one for the living area and one for the guest rooms upstairs.

Melissa wrote on Dec 4^th, 2008 at 7:41am:

Bring on the thermal underwear, nose-cicles and hot chocolate!! :D

I noticed that you didn't get all the snow off the deck.  There's a few small clumps to the right and left of the guage. There's alittle on the rail as well.  Just here to help.

I'm going to go out and rake leaves in my t-shirt now.


8-)

echo wrote on Dec 4^th, 2008 at 4:37pm:

Melissa wrote on Dec 4th, 2008 at 7:41am: Bring on the thermal underwear, nose-cicles and hot chocolate!! :D I noticed that you didn't get all the snow off the deck.  There's a few small clumps to the right and left of the guage. There's alittle on the rail as well.  Just here to help. I'm going to go out and rake leaves in my t-shirt now. 8-)

You turd, that shoveling is Eli's work, LOL. :P

Bob P wrote on Dec 4^th, 2008 at 9:42am:

House question for you snow dwellers (since I will be one in the not too distant future).  If your house is on a raised foundation, how do you keep the pipes from freezing?  Is it just a matter of good insulation on the pipes or does the crawl space warm up once the snow covers the foundation vents?

BASEMENT

Basement, insulated and heated. No storm here yet today, but we are not out of the woods with this one at all!

My buddy just sent me this pic of a prototype snow bike. Now this baby has some possibilities for sure! ;)

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WOW Pat.  As much as I hate snow, that picture of your house is absolutely gorgeous.

I'm not qualified to talk about other forms of heating. Almost everybody in my city of 32,000 uses a forced air gas furnace. The first gas well was located not far from here.

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I'm jealous, Bob.

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I've decided this winter I'm going to put up as many Christmas lights as possible inside the house to keep me from getting cabin fever. :)

Linda_Howell wrote on Dec 4^th, 2008 at 6:22pm:

WOW Pat.  As much as I hate snow, that picture of your house is absolutely gorgeous.

Just FYI Linda, that photo is from last year when we had 120 inches of snow (not all at once, needless to say).  Right now we only have 7 inches on the ground but it's just as pretty (and there's more on the way tonight).

And that's my neighbor's house.  It's my patio on which I'm standing, looking out over my backyard.  We used to have to shovel pathways for our short legged dog to go do his business in the yard.  He's gone now, so no more tunnels.

Oh I wish it would snow like that here!   It is very cold today and we have been getting flurries the last couple days.    I sure hope that we get some good sledding time this year!

Jeannie

barry_sword wrote on Dec 4^th, 2008 at 6:20pm:

Basement, insulated and heated. No storm here yet today, but we are not out of the woods with this one at all! My buddy just sent me this pic of a prototype snow bike. Now this baby has some possibilities for sure! ;) START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to or END PRINTPAGESTART PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to or END PRINTPAGE  8-)

I saw that new Canadian invention recently on Dragons Den...wish i had come up with it...i owned a motorized version back in 1979....made by Chrysler
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You guys can keep your snow.  You are NUTTTTTTS.

I grew up NE of Albany, NY near the VT border.  
I'm done with snow.

If I wanna see snow, I can drive an hour to where the snow is at.  


B$

We are still in a snow squall warning and have gotten about a foot and a half in the last 24 hours, but 10 minutes south of us got labeled big time. I will take and post a pic tomorrow morning of my "snowbanks!!!!!" ;)

It is kinda pretty out there, but.....
I JUST HATE SHOVELING IT EVERY DAY!!! [smiley=laugh.gif]

Paul, nice!!!!!! 8-)

It was 14 when I went to work this morning, at 7 am. It finally warmed up to 25. I quit watching the weather, it's too depressing. Looks like it may be a cold winter.

Yeah, it is 24 degrees here right now and we are in the south. Where's that global warming when you need it. And Linda we get snow here too.

Hush Jimi!    I'm in denial.

Don't worry Linda.  The snow lasts a day or 3.  Trouble is that the area is so far back in the stone age, they don't have plows or salt.  One inch of snow shuts the towns down till it melts.  Here in Wisconsin 1 inch isn't even plowed.   ;D

I remember 3 Christmas's ago we got 24 inches. It's true. I have pictures. It shut us down for 2 weeks.

But it's true, we don't handle snow near as well down here as you guys do up there.

Jimi wrote on Dec 5^th, 2008 at 8:09pm:

Yeah, it is 24 degrees here right now and we are in the south.

As far as I'm concerned everything north of the NC-VA border is "up north".  ;D

B

Jimi wrote on Dec 5^th, 2008 at 8:54pm:

I remember 3 Christmas's ago we got 24 inches. It's true. I have pictures. It shut us down for 2 weeks. But it's true, we don't handle snow near as well down here as you guys do up there.

When I was in S. Ill, Carbondale area Christmas 2001, there were roses blooming on the bushes on Christmas day.

2002 Christmas was an ice storm that shut the town down for a week.  I was dedicated as the one to drive everywhere that winter because I was the only one who knew how to manouver a car in that weather.

Linda, it's better to live in an area where winters are relitively mild, than live up here if you are unsure of navigating crazy frozen roads.

On a different note, It's never gotten so freaken hot up here that sections of highway have exploded due to the expansion of the rebar under the asphalt...that was wicked nasty shit.

I spent 2 yrs. in Spokane, Washington where winters were pretty harsh and it seemed to me that it no longer melted off and it would snow again for days on end.  Had to put snow tires on my Merc.  and had to learn how to drive in that white stuff.

Mastiff who lives on the Western side of Washington, near Seattle called me a wuss.  Or was that a wimp.  I forget now.  But I did learn how to navigate and live in the stuff, so I should be all right in KY

I had frost on my windshield one morning and I looked at it for a second.  Tried to figure out what it was.

Then I went in the car, turned the defroster on high, and five seconds later it was gone.

Whew.  Almost had to get the credit card scraper out.  That's scary.  

No ice and snow for me, thanks.  

I still want to know who designed the highways down there that they can melt and explode in the heat?

Right damn in front of a driver...(I don't WANT to know what would happen if it went UNDER a car)

The summer 2002 there was 18 highway asphalt explosions between Carbondale and Marion Il in 2 weeks.  

Who builds these roads anyway?

I have never heard of highways exploding.  I only know of cracks and potholes. :-/

Anyone got a video?

Icksnay on the coldray!  It is wasm and blalmy here if a cirtian short person asks!!! ;)

I just let the dog in and he was COLD..... think I'll stay inside till it warms up. We don't do COLD well here in East Texas.  ;)

Hugs BD

Yes, I'd say the Alberta Clipper reached us today.



Paul98 wrote on Dec 6^th, 2008 at 7:21am:

Icksnay on the coldray!  It is wasm and blalmy here if a cirtian short person asks!!! ;)

oh, uh... yeah.  Just those nice sharing Canadians once in a while sweeping in airily on a pretty sailboat through the extended Great Lakes region.  Catchy American local tradition has made it customary to greet them all bundled with the seasonal attire of an Arctic explorer.  

Yup, more white stuff today :P. Not a great pic but how do you like my snowbanks? LOL :D

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here is a pic from last night.
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Nice job on the snowbanks Barry. ;)


I am sad.  It is so damn windy today that it blew over one of our tree brackets. :(

Barry gets pulled over by the Toronto police in his new pedal car!

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Rolo..... :D ;D

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Way too funny, a pedal car!LMFAO!!!!!! [smiley=crackup.gif] [smiley=crackup.gif] [smiley=crackup.gif]

Here is where they caught up with me donating at the toy drive today. ;D
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Seriously, officer Bruce told me this was the 4th time today they had to empty the cruiser and that was back at like 1:00pm. This rocks!!!!!!!! 8-)

Awesome snow!  I am so jealous.  here in North Carolina if we had a snowstorm like that there would be no school for at least a week if not two.  Noone would drive ( except for my family because we are transplanted yankees)  Target would be empty if not totally shut down :)


Sure looks like some fine sledding conditions-

Kelly

Damn nice shovelling job Barry! Good pictures too.

It's 24 degrees at about 2:00 AM. Not more than 8 - 10 inches of new snow though. Two weeks ago, The Weather Channel was around here for OTSRs of snow on the ridges. It's been snowier than normal for November.

Charlie

   4.2 F at 0700 and its supposed to get up to 20. Saw maybe an inch of Snow a week ago. But its still colder than a well diggers lunch box riding a trike when its this cold.
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It is -15c (5f) here this morning and woke up to another foot of snow overnight. the winds are suppose to get up to 60 km's an hour (that's 40 mph I think) throughout the day.

Good neighbor Frank used his snow blower and cleared most of my driveway out this morning. Don't need your fat bastard neighbor with the plow Jonny, I have Frank!!!!!LOL ;D

We were suppose to ride our mountain bikes in our Santa Claus Parade today with our group ride people, but it is not going to happen as there is too much snow and ice. Too cold and dangerous. :D

I will post a pic of the new snowfall shortly. ;)

Geez Barry, you get all the snow and we get all the arctic air!  

Our outdoor themometer is showing -15F.  Brrrr!!

Melissa wrote on Dec 7^th, 2008 at 8:46am:

Geez Barry, you get all the snow and we get all the arctic air!   Our outdoor themometer is showing -15F.  Brrrr!!

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I’m just waiting for the first tongue casualty, last year my son came running in the house for a hot washcloth and when I asked why, the reply was “Sammy has her tongue froze to a shovel"! There is always one gullible enough to try it, and well you know the result…

Rolo. ;D

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I understand a kid doing it, hell I think we all have done it a least once ::)

But that moron in the video, what an ass!!! Hey, moron, here comes a plow truck, I double dare you to jump in front of it! :D
LMAO!!!!! ;D ;D ;D