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http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl Cluster Headache Help and Support >> Medications, Treatments, Therapies >> Carotid occlusion method http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1230125083 Message started by tidge on Dec 24^th, 2008 at 8:24am

Title: Carotid occlusion method
Post by tidge on Dec 24^th, 2008 at 8:24am

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I have avoided a whole lot of pain with this since 1993. I hope it helps others.

Merry Xmas

Title: Re: Carotid occlusion method
Post by DonnaH_again on Dec 24^th, 2008 at 9:39am

This is a dangerous proceedure and can cause problems, sometimes fatal. Speaking from experience from being a Cardiac Monitor Tech and working in the Cardiac Step-down Unit, I know that even RN's were NOT to practice this proceedure without being in the presence of a physician.

It is the Vagus nerve that you might be stimulating, which can cause a great drop in your heart rate.

Please seek the advice of your physician before practicing this proceedure.

Title: Re: Carotid occlusion method
Post by wildhaus on Dec 24^th, 2008 at 9:41am

I am not going to dispute the method mentioned above! If I understand it right, an abortive method.

I just know that it took me, more then just some time, to develop a “ritual” at an onset CH episode,
most problematic at night time, and to be honest I have to have every thing right, and set, or I just
loose it.... and with that, prolong the duration of the CH episode, I have tremendous difficulties at concentration and self discipline (during a CH episode), and I cant see my self adopt to new methods, the last 2 adjustments had been more then I was wishing for, the O2 at higher flow, to hyper ventilate..... Marta has to remained me at times to go on, or do it right, and recently the add of the ONS gadget.... (Remote control) still have hard times to see the levels and intensity........

Tks. for the information..... but ..... No I am OK the way I have it......

Michael

Title: Re: Carotid occlusion method
Post by tidge on Dec 24^th, 2008 at 9:53am

wrote on Dec 24^th, 2008 at 9:39am:

It is the Vagus nerve that you might be stimulating, which can cause a great drop in your heart rate.

I caution in the instructions to place the thumb well below the carotid body, which causes the heart rate drop via the vagus nerve.

Vagal stimulation can be dangerous when pressure is applied to both carotid bodies, cf. the "sleeper grip". This method only applies pressure on the one (painful) side, so if someone were to apply pressure higher up, it would only affect one carotid body.

Title: Re: Carotid occlusion method
Post by Kirk on Dec 26^th, 2008 at 9:35pm

Unless you have had an Endo-Vascular Ultrasound of your Carotid Arteries recently and know that they are clear. This is a pretty dumb idea, When you block of the one Carotid, you don't know how much the other is delivering.
My right Carotid is 70-80% blocked. I'm not about to block my left one, and hope that my right one is giving me sufficient blood at only 20-30% volume. Nope this method does not sound like a good idea.
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