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http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl Cluster Headache Help and Support >> Medications, Treatments, Therapies >> Salvia divinorum or splendens?? http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1231021578 Message started by rossimft on Jan 3^rd, 2009 at 5:26pm

Title: Salvia divinorum or splendens??
Post by rossimft on Jan 3^rd, 2009 at 5:26pm

Has anyone tried these herbs as an alternative to shrooms? I am aware it has some hallucinogenic properties, but does it have the same effect as shrooms for CHs? I'm unsuccessful in getting a hold of shrooms (no connections), but have salvia growing all over my garden (My lightbulb is going off...) I've been unsuccessfully battling the beast for 22 years now... I'll try ANYTHING if it has any spark of hope.

Thanks,
Sheri

Title: Re: Salvia divinorum or splendens??
Post by vietvet2tours on Jan 3^rd, 2009 at 6:00pm

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Title: Re: Salvia divinorum or splendens??
Post by Pixie-elf on Jan 3^rd, 2009 at 6:25pm

My family has asked about this, I too am wondering if it would help with clusters.

I just have never gotten around to posting and asking. I'm not sure what receptors it works on in the brain or what.

(I dislike hallousinating, so I'm NOT trying it out. But I would like to know if it would help.)

Mystina

Title: Re: Salvia divinorum or splendens??
Post by rossimft on Jan 3^rd, 2009 at 6:50pm

I agree. I too am not looking for a trip, nor do I want to be the experimenter, but if it has similar properties as other hallucinogens, maybe there is something to it. AND it is very easily accessible.

Title: Re: Salvia divinorum or splendens??
Post by UnderTheRadar on Jan 3^rd, 2009 at 6:57pm

Remember, it may have a similar effect or similar properties, but that doesn't mean it has the same molecular structure. I'll do some research, but I believe it is NOT an indole-ring molecule...

Title: Re: Salvia divinorum or splendens??
Post by UnderTheRadar on Jan 3^rd, 2009 at 7:00pm

From wikipedia:

"Salvinorin A is a trans-neoclerodane diterpenoid, chemical formula C23H28O8.[4] Unlike other known opioid-receptor ligands, salvinorin A is not an alkaloid — it does not contain a basic nitrogen atom.[5] Salvinorin A has no actions at the 5-HT2A serotonin receptor, the principal molecular target responsible for the actions of 'classical' psychedelics such as LSD and mescaline."

there you go. :(

Title: Re: Salvia divinorum or splendens??
Post by rossimft on Jan 4^th, 2009 at 12:17am

well then, that answers my question. I guess I'll just keep using it for floral display purposes only :(