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Message started by Jonny on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 6:12pm

Title: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by Jonny on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 6:12pm
Calculate weight by stone.......WTF does one stone weigh?

This aint the fucking dark ages......LOL  ;D

Title: Re: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by FramCire on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 6:29pm
14 lbs

I dont know why anyone uses it, but hey it makes me sound smaller to devide my weight by 14... so Im all for it.

Title: Re: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by ClusterChuck on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 6:32pm
From Wikipedia:



Quote:
Although the 1985 Weights and Measures Act[3] expressly prohibited the use of the stone as a unit of measure for purposes of trade (other than as a supplementary unit), the stone remains widely used within the British Isles as a means of expressing human body weight. People in these countries normally describe themselves as weighing, for example, "11 stone 4" (11 stone and 4 pounds), rather than "72 kilograms" in most other countries, or "158 pounds" (the conventional way of expressing the same weight in the United States). Its widespread colloquial use may be compared to the persistence in the British Isles of other Imperial units like the foot, the inch, and the mile, despite these having been supplanted entirely or partly by metric units in official use and other contexts. Road distances and speed enforcement area are still expressed officially in yards, miles and miles per hour in the United Kingdom. Both Canada and the Republic of Ireland now use the metric system. In official use, provision is usually made for the public to express body weight in either stones or kilograms (similar allowance is made for measuring height in feet and inches). For example, on a National Health Service Web site, both metric and Imperial units are used.[4]

Outside the British Isles, stone may also be used to express body weight in casual contexts in other Commonwealth countries.


NOW do you understand??

LOL

Title: Re: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by Jonny on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 6:35pm

ClusterChuck wrote on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 6:32pm:
From Wikipedia:



Quote:
Although the 1985 Weights and Measures Act[3] expressly prohibited the use of the stone as a unit of measure for purposes of trade (other than as a supplementary unit), the stone remains widely used within the British Isles as a means of expressing human body weight. People in these countries normally describe themselves as weighing, for example, "11 stone 4" (11 stone and 4 pounds), rather than "72 kilograms" in most other countries, or "158 pounds" (the conventional way of expressing the same weight in the United States). Its widespread colloquial use may be compared to the persistence in the British Isles of other Imperial units like the foot, the inch, and the mile, despite these having been supplanted entirely or partly by metric units in official use and other contexts. Road distances and speed enforcement area are still expressed officially in yards, miles and miles per hour in the United Kingdom. Both Canada and the Republic of Ireland now use the metric system. In official use, provision is usually made for the public to express body weight in either stones or kilograms (similar allowance is made for measuring height in feet and inches). For example, on a National Health Service Web site, both metric and Imperial units are used.[4]

Outside the British Isles, stone may also be used to express body weight in casual contexts in other Commonwealth countries.


NOW do you understand??

LOL


Your kidding, right?

Title: Re: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by [joHnny]w_ an_h on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 6:36pm

wrote on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 6:12pm:
Calculate weight by stone.......WTF does one stone weigh?

This aint the fucking dark ages......LOL  ;D


we're the only country that uses feet and inches ;D
machinist call feet and inches the english system as opposed to the metric system even in text books. england is metric. :D

Title: Re: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by [joHnny]w_ an_h on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 6:39pm

ClusterChuck wrote on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 6:32pm:
From Wikipedia:



Quote:
Although the 1985 Weights and Measures Act[3] expressly prohibited the use of the stone as a unit of measure for purposes of trade (other than as a supplementary unit), the stone remains widely used within the British Isles as a means of expressing human body weight. People in these countries normally describe themselves as weighing, for example, "11 stone 4" (11 stone and 4 pounds), rather than "72 kilograms" in most other countries, or "158 pounds" (the conventional way of expressing the same weight in the United States). Its widespread colloquial use may be compared to the persistence in the British Isles of other Imperial units like the foot, the inch, and the mile, despite these having been supplanted entirely or partly by metric units in official use and other contexts. Road distances and speed enforcement area are still expressed officially in yards, miles and miles per hour in the United Kingdom. Both Canada and the Republic of Ireland now use the metric system. In official use, provision is usually made for the public to express body weight in either stones or kilograms (similar allowance is made for measuring height in feet and inches). For example, on a National Health Service Web site, both metric and Imperial units are used.[4]

Outside the British Isles, stone may also be used to express body weight in casual contexts in other Commonwealth countries.


NOW do you understand??

LOL


hard to argue with that chuck ;D

Title: Re: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by Frank_W on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 6:50pm
As a CNC machinist in Japan, I found the metric system to be far less cumbersome than using inches and fractions of inches.

In the fields of mathematics, science, and medicine, the United States has use the metric system for many many years....

Title: Re: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by stevegeebe on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 8:14pm
If you want to get specific...y=pg.

Steve G

Title: Re: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by Charlie on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 11:25pm
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Charlie

Title: Re: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by Kevin_M on Jan 4th, 2009 at 6:04am

ClusterChuck wrote on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 6:32pm:
From Wikipedia:



Quote:
...the stone as a unit... of expressing human body weight.


My foot is eleven inches and my yard is 60 feet.  Head equals one stone.

Title: Re: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by Mosaicwench on Jan 4th, 2009 at 9:19am
Stoned?

Title: Re: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by Jonny on Jan 4th, 2009 at 9:45am

Mosaicwench wrote on Jan 4th, 2009 at 9:19am:
Stoned?


Not in over 20 years, but I could really go for one huge hit right now....(Where are my 20 year old phone numbers).....LOL ;D

Title: Re: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by PollyPocket on Jan 4th, 2009 at 10:02am
oh how COOL!!!!!   I weigh 8 1/2!    That's it...  screw the "lbs", I'm going "stone" from now on.  ROFL

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Title: Re: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by mummymac on Jan 4th, 2009 at 2:31pm

Jennifer wrote on Jan 4th, 2009 at 10:02am:
oh how COOL!!!!!   I weigh 8 1/2!    That's it...  screw the "lbs", I'm going "stone" from now on.  ROFL


I use Stones it makes perfect sense to me, pounds or kilos mean nothing and I have to convert them.  I still drive in miles an hour and distance  but use both metric and impereal for liquids. Hight is in feet and inches, although the youngsters are now using Meters - whats that all about?

Jen at 8 1/2 stone you are  tiny.

edited to add
14lbs to a stone and 16ozs to a pound  and always breathe in whilst standing on scales with one leg in the air and holding onto the sink with one hand, it makes the scales more accurate


Title: Re: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by mummymac on Jan 4th, 2009 at 2:35pm

wrote on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 6:12pm:
Calculate weight by stone.......WTF does one stone weigh?

This aint the fucking dark ages......LOL  ;D


Jonny don't know about dark ages but it is dark here- wheres that light switch ???????

Title: Re: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by Barry_T_Coles on Jan 5th, 2009 at 2:09am
I’m a surveyor by trade & people like me breathed the biggest sigh of relief when we went from the old imperial system of measurement to the decimal system & here’s why.

12 inches in 1 foot
3 feet in 1 yard
36 inches in 1 yard
5 ½ yards is 1 rod, pole or perch
16 ½ feet in 1 rod, pole or perch
4 rods, poles or perches in 1 chain
22 yards in 1 chain
100 links in 1 chain
7.92 inches in 1 link
25 links is 1 rod, pole or perch
20 chains in 1 mile
66 feet in 1 chain
8 furlongs in 1 mile
320 rods, poles or perches in 1 mile
1760 yards in 1 mile

And that’s only for measuring length; if I was to measure height it was done with a level & a staff, the staff was set out in feet but there was 10 inches in this foot not 12 so 1/10 of a foot was 1.2 real inches which calculates out to roughly 1 ¼ real inches.
I won’t go anywhere near fluid measurement or land as in Acres.

It’s so much easier in metric:
1 mm
1 centre metre = 10 mm
1 decimetre = 100 mm
1 metre = 1000 mm
1000 metres = 1 kilometre
1 kilometre square = 10 hectares

I’m surprised that after 36 years of using the metric system that I can still remember the old way, it may be that something you really hated tends to get burnt in the brain or it may be the way I drank beer, I could have a pint, a pony, a schooner, a handle or a jug.

Shees givus a can.

Cheers
Barry

Title: Re: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by mummymac on Jan 5th, 2009 at 2:30am

Barry_T_Coles wrote on Jan 5th, 2009 at 2:09am:
I’m a surveyor by trade & people like me breathed the biggest sigh of relief when we went from the old imperial system of measurement to the decimal system & here’s why.

12 inches in 1 foot
3 feet in 1 yard
36 inches in 1 yard
5 ½ yards is 1 rod, pole or perch
16 ½ feet in 1 rod, pole or perch
4 rods, poles or perches in 1 chain
22 yards in 1 chain
100 links in 1 chain
7.92 inches in 1 link
25 links is 1 rod, pole or perch
20 chains in 1 mile
66 feet in 1 chain
8 furlongs in 1 mile
320 rods, poles or perches in 1 mile
1760 yards in 1 mile

And that’s only for measuring length; if I was to measure height it was done with a level & a staff, the staff was set out in feet but there was 10 inches in this foot not 12 so 1/10 of a foot was 1.2 real inches which calculates out to roughly 1 ¼ real inches.
I won’t go anywhere near fluid measurement or land as in Acres.

It’s so much easier in metric:
1 mm
1 centre metre = 10 mm
1 decimetre = 100 mm
1 metre = 1000 mm
1000 metres = 1 kilometre
1 kilometre square = 10 hectares

I’m surprised that after 36 years of using the metric system that I can still remember the old way, it may be that something you really hated tends to get burnt in the brain or it may be the way I drank beer, I could have a pint, a pony, a schooner, a handle or a jug.

Shees givus a can.

Cheers
Barry



When I was a kid my Dad measured my horses field with a real chain, the fied had to be split into certin acres, seemed logical to me :) and it worked.

Title: Re: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by LeLimey on Jan 5th, 2009 at 6:49am
Well I buy my apples and spuds by the lb! We also use miles as a unit of measurement and although we DO have kilos etc as units of measurement we also have imperial - Brit's won't give it up! You can still buy milk by the pint and beer etc, it just now lists the metric equivalent too.

Daft as it sounds, I understand "cold" better in metric (centigrade) with zero being freezing but as soon as someone tells me it's 30 degrees out (oC)
I'm converting it in my head into oF so I know how hot it is! (Quick way to do that is double the centigrade temp and add thirty - ie 30oc x2 = 60. 60 + 30 = 90 oF )

Title: Re: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by Charlie on Jan 5th, 2009 at 10:05am
There was a push some 30 years ago to acquaint we Amurikins with metric distances that got shot down.......because as comedian Lewis Black says: It's hard!" I remember signs along 90 or 190 in northern Ohio using km as well as miles. Damn. It is hard when you aren't immersed in it. Centigrade isn't so hard to deal with though.

Charlie

Title: Re: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by seasonalboomer on Jan 5th, 2009 at 10:27am
Here you go:

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1 Stone = 14 lbs.



Title: Re: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by ClusterChuck on Jan 5th, 2009 at 10:30am

Charlie wrote on Jan 5th, 2009 at 10:05am:
Damn. It is hard when you aren't immersed in it. Centigrade isn't so hard to deal with though.

Maybe I should keep my mouth shut and not mention the phrase "old dog ... new tricks ..."

Title: Re: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by Melissa on Jan 5th, 2009 at 10:43am

Jennifer wrote on Jan 4th, 2009 at 10:02am:
oh how COOL!!!!!   I weigh 8 1/2!    That's it...  screw the "lbs", I'm going "stone" from now on.  ROFL

:-X

Title: Re: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by purpleydog on Jan 5th, 2009 at 3:15pm

wrote on Jan 5th, 2009 at 6:49am:
Well I buy my apples and spuds by the lb! We also use miles as a unit of measurement and although we DO have kilos etc as units of measurement we also have imperial - Brit's won't give it up! You can still buy milk by the pint and beer etc, it just now lists the metric equivalent too.

Daft as it sounds, I understand "cold" better in metric (centigrade) with zero being freezing but as soon as someone tells me it's 30 degrees out (oC)
I'm converting it in my head into oF so I know how hot it is! (Quick way to do that is double the centigrade temp and add thirty - ie 30oc x2 = 60. 60 + 30 = 90 oF )



Thank you, Helen, for that convenient little formula! I gave up trying to remember the formula I learned in school, and always resort to a converter online.



Title: Re: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by LeLimey on Jan 5th, 2009 at 5:05pm

Charlie wrote on Jan 5th, 2009 at 10:05am:
There was a push some 30 years ago to acquaint we Amurikins with metric distances that got shot down.......because as comedian Lewis Black says: It's hard!"



Sheesh Charlie - I've read a quote but I don't know from whom but it said that a whole generation of American's learned the metric system from drugs  ;)

Title: Re: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by Barry_T_Coles on Jan 5th, 2009 at 5:22pm
[/quote]


When I was a kid my Dad measured my horses field with a real chain, the fied had to be split into certin acres, seemed logical to me :) and it worked.[/quote]

Your Dad would have known what it’s like to be a chainman, when I first started in Surveying that was my job (a chainman) the chain was made up of 100 steel or wrought iron links measuring 8-12 Standard Wire Gauge thick by 7.92 “long & when you have dragged that thing around all day you know you’ve done a fair days work.

There are also other advantages of metric measurement as Jonny “The Mule” would appreciate, instead of having a 4” willy you can now have a 100mm one. :D

Cheers
Barry

Title: Re: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by Paul98 on Jan 6th, 2009 at 8:13am

wrote on Jan 3rd, 2009 at 6:12pm:
Calculate weight by stone.......WTF does one stone weigh?

This aint the fucking dark ages
......LOL  ;D


I guess weight depends on how big one's stones are ;D  Some guys have big stones and some have a lot of stones and some have no stones.  This begs the question that if a person has a lot of stones do they weigh more than a person with big stones? :)

-P.



Title: Re: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by KJ on Jan 6th, 2009 at 7:21pm
Paul.....this might be relevent to you....be very careful ;)

Sir Bedevere: There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.
---Are there? Oh well, tell us.
Sir Bedevere: Tell me. What do you do with witches?
--Burn them.
Sir Bedevere: And what do you burn, apart from witches?
--More witches.
--Wood.
Sir Bedevere: Good. Now, why do witches burn?
--...because they're made of... wood?
Sir Bedevere: Good. So how do you tell whether she is made of wood?
--Build a bridge out of her.
Sir Bedevere: But can you not also build bridges out of stone?
--Oh yeah.
Sir Bedevere: Does wood sink in water?
--No, no, it floats!... It floats! Throw her into the pond!
Sir Bedevere: No, no. What else floats in water?
--Bread.
--Apples.
--Very small rocks.
--Cider.
--Gravy.
--Cherries.
--Mud.
--Churches.
--Lead! Lead!
--A Duck.
Sir Bedevere: ...Exactly. So, logically...
--If she weighed the same as a duck... she's made of wood.
Sir Bedevere: And therefore...
...A witch!

Title: Re: Why is it that some countries.......
Post by Marc on Jan 6th, 2009 at 8:13pm

wrote on Jan 5th, 2009 at 5:05pm:
Sheesh Charlie - I've read a quote but I don't know from whom but it said that a whole generation of American's learned the metric system from drugs  ;)  


;D ;D ;D

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