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Message started by Charlie on Jan 8th, 2009 at 7:17pm

Title: What's this?
Post by Charlie on Jan 8th, 2009 at 7:17pm
Stack or line stack overflow. I get this thing now and then. All I do is hit OK and proceed. It must have something to with capacity or something. It's only popped up three or four times and only within a few weeks. Is there something I should or could do?

(I don't speak computerese, by the way)

Thanks,

Charlie

Title: Re: What's this?
Post by KingOfPain on Jan 8th, 2009 at 7:31pm
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In software, a stack buffer overflow occurs when a program writes to a memory address on the program's call stack outside of the intended data structure; usually a fixed length buffer. Stack buffer overflow bugs are caused when a program writes more data to a buffer located on the stack than there was actually allocated for that buffer. This almost always results in corruption of adjacent data on the stack, and in cases where the overflow was triggered by mistake, will often cause the program to crash or operate incorrectly. This type of overflow is part of the more general class of programming bugs known as buffer overflows.


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In computer security and programming, a buffer overflow, or buffer overrun, is an anomalous condition where a process attempts to store data beyond the boundaries of a fixed-length buffer. The result is that the extra data overwrites adjacent memory locations. The overwritten data may include other buffers, variables and program flow data, and may result in erratic program behavior, a memory access exception, program termination (a crash), incorrect results or - especially if deliberately caused by a malicious user - a possible breach of system security.

Buffer overflows can be triggered by inputs specifically designed to execute malicious code or to make the program operate in an unintended way. As such, buffer overflows cause many software vulnerabilities and form the basis of many exploits. Sufficient bounds checking by either the programmer, the compiler or the run time can prevent buffer overflows.


I don't know if this totally answers your question & as I am no computer
expert I won't dare to advise you on correction of it.

:)

Title: Re: What's this?
Post by QnHeartMM on Jan 8th, 2009 at 7:55pm
I would make sure you're current on Microsoft patches and other security updates (e.g. adobe, antivirus, etc.)

Title: Re: What's this?
Post by Charlie on Jan 8th, 2009 at 8:00pm
Thanks. I did look up the thing but I really don't know if it's screwing up anything. Since I updated my puter some months ago, it's been a mess.........slow. I'm thinking of resetting to earlier last year. Maybe that would get things back to what I'm used to.

Charlie

Title: Re: What's this?
Post by QnHeartMM on Jan 8th, 2009 at 8:37pm
Yea maybe. If all else fails, back up what's important and reformat back to factory image. I do that around here every year or so. Of course then catch up on security patches.

Title: Re: What's this?
Post by Rolomatic on Jan 8th, 2009 at 8:51pm
Stack overflow:
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In Windows 95, 98, and ME, there is a setting in the config.sys file that controls this. If it was changed, there will be a file on the root of the drive called config.bak. Open the (config.bak) file with MS notepad and check the old setting compared to the one in use by the config.sys file. If different, change the value back to the old setting.

STACKS=64,512 ;(this is the maximum allowed)
FILES=60
BUFFERS=40

You may need to tell explorer that you want to see hidden / system files to see them.

Secondly, remove the memory DIM’s and clean there gold contacts with isopropyl alcohol and a Q-tip and reinstall.

Hope this helps you Charlie,

Roland. ;)

Title: Re: What's this?
Post by Charlie on Jan 8th, 2009 at 9:29pm
Thanks folks but.....That's pretty tecky for me Rolo. I'm terrified to screw with most everything like this.

Someday, my puter geek..who does my taxes.....will look at it......I hope.

Charlie

Title: Re: What's this?
Post by Rolomatic on Jan 8th, 2009 at 9:38pm
Charlie,

Did you upgrade the memory several months ago??? If so you may need to check the memory to make sure the DIMM pairs are of the same speed. This can defiantly cause problems like you describe. All SDRAM memory requires the installed DIMM’s are of the same speed rating or miswrites will occur!

Rolo.

Title: Re: What's this?
Post by Charlie on Jan 8th, 2009 at 10:57pm
Uh...thanks but I have no idea what you are talking about.
This is one area where I just can't get the hang of.

Charlie

Title: Re: What's this?
Post by Opus on Jan 8th, 2009 at 11:07pm

wrote on Jan 8th, 2009 at 9:38pm:
Charlie,

Did you upgrade the memory several moths ago??? If so you may need to check the memory to make sure the DIMM pairs are of the same speed. This can defiantly cause problems like you describe. All SDRAM memory requires the installed DIMM’s are of the same speed rating or miswrites will occur!

Rolo.


Roland , please stop or Charlie's head will explode.

I'm sure his box is still the same as when it left the factory.

He probably needs a clean reinstall, which will be painful because he probably has no backups.

Paul [smiley=smokin.gif]

Title: Re: What's this?
Post by Rolomatic on Jan 8th, 2009 at 11:15pm

Charlie wrote on Jan 8th, 2009 at 8:00pm:
Since I updated my puter some months ago, it's been a mess.........slow.


This is why I asked Paul, I wondered if there was an mem upgrade included in his recent oil puter change.

Best, Rolo... :D

Title: Re: What's this?
Post by Charlie on Jan 8th, 2009 at 11:19pm
[size=12]If you are talking about saving files, I stick stuff on disk that I don't want to lose. There isn't a lot of junk anyway.

Charlie

Title: Re: What's this?
Post by Opus on Jan 9th, 2009 at 12:09am

Charlie wrote on Jan 8th, 2009 at 11:19pm:
If you are talking about saving files, I stick stuff on disk that I don't want to lose. There isn't a lot of junk anyway.
Charlie


I  stand corrected Charlie, you can now count yourself as being above 75% of users, including businesses that have no backups. Now would be a great time to make some more, or at least make sure the disks you do have still work.

Paul [smiley=smokin.gif]

Title: Re: What's this?
Post by Kirk on Jan 9th, 2009 at 12:19am
  What do you mean by you updated your computer a few months ago Charlie? Was it the Service Pack 3 upgrade from Microsoft? Or something like that? Since this has just popped up recently, have you installed any new programs?
[smiley=smokin.gif]

Title: Re: What's this?
Post by Rolomatic on Jan 9th, 2009 at 12:54am
I'm sorry Charlie; I just figure everyone’s a techie geek like me. If you answer a few simple questions we will try to help.

What operating system ie. 98, ME, XP?

Did you have new memory added to the motherboard?

These answers will help in diagnosing the problem.

Rolo… ;)

Title: Re: What's this?
Post by Opus on Jan 9th, 2009 at 8:58am
Rolo,

   I finally understand some "user speak" so maybe this will help you. The monitor is called "the computer", a hard drive is called "memory", The computer case is called "hard drive", "CPU", or "modem". The answer to what is your OS is usually  "Dell", or "HP". Their ISP is called "my server" and their web browser is called "the internet"

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Charlie, sorry about hijacking your thread.

Paul [smiley=smokin.gif]


Title: Re: What's this?
Post by Charlie on Jan 10th, 2009 at 1:49am
I'm running XP here. Exciting! I keep track of my disks. I even saved some anti-virus programs and the like that my friendly geek told me to hang onto. I don't have much else that I care about. A few addresses and some images....along with some stuff from my briefcase. Damn passwords too.

I upgraded Microsoft something or other last November. Hate it. Damn disks are running slow now. Not sure why. Pain in the ass. I did a real D & C on this thing last night though.

Thanks for all the info though. (buncha nerds) 8-)

Charlie
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Title: Re: What's this?
Post by Rolomatic on Jan 10th, 2009 at 2:09am

Charlie wrote on Jan 10th, 2009 at 1:49am:
I did a real D & C on this thing last night though.


I can understand how you may have achieved the “clear” part but just how did you dilate it, with a hammer? [smiley=damncomputer.gif]

Rolo. ;D

BTW, great video Paul! [smiley=crackup.gif]

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