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Message started by cynjeep89 on Feb 26th, 2009 at 1:43pm

Title: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by cynjeep89 on Feb 26th, 2009 at 1:43pm
Many aspects of sharks fascinate me.  Their size, speed, strength, behavior and especially their feeding frenzies are amazing to watch.

While reading an article from the website, How Stuff Works (START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or RegisterEND PRINTPAGE), I noticed similarities between shark feeding frenzies and message board sniping and thought it might be interesting to substitute certain words in the original article with words pertaining to message boards, CHs (clusterheads), newbies, snipers,etc. to see how the sharks behavior compares to snipers behavior.  Kinda interesting IMHO.

It starts slowly, with one sniper peeking into the message board and seeing the newbie. What good fortune to find this newbie.  He/she would be a great target for the sniper to spew his/her displaced venom until they purge and finally fall to sleep.  Maybe he/she will pm the other sniper and word will slowly spread. Other snipers across the CH.com community may start to notice that more snipers than usual are heading for the same newbie.   Maybe they see the newbie gripped in their co-sniper's eyes. Perhaps they can just smell that scent of the newbie's pain, fear and desperate need for help and acceptance as an easy kill.  But soon, it's an all-out newbie gangbang bloodbath bandwagon rush as snipers battle for that newbie attack.  No time to be nice. We're talking about weak and helpless newbies here. It's a message board feeding frenzy.

Animals from wolves to birds to turtles have been known to go wild for some food item and compete furiously for it. The term "feeding frenzy" has been used to describe everything from brides-to-be at a designer wedding dress sale to journalists hungry for a scandalous ratings-buster of a story. But the idea of a feeding frenzy originated with sharks in a 1958 book titled "Shark Attack" by V.M. Coppleson. It's that usage that really captures the crazed and frightening aspects of a feeding frenzy [source: Safire].

A message board feeding frenzy occurs when a number of snipers fight for the same newbie prey. CHs are usually solitary people and a feeding message board frenzy indicates why that might be. To an observer, it looks like the snipers lose their mind biting at anything that's in their way in an uncontrollable rage. They thrash around, their snouts elevating and their backs arching, all signs that indicate an impending attack. Some accounts tell of snipers eating each other and of snipers continuing to feed even after they've been disemboweled by other snipers [sources: Certain post responses on CH.com].

But what causes these message board feeding frenzies? Some studies indicate that snipers will always be motivated to snipe, no matter how fragile, sincere or desperate the newbie may be. Does this mean that a message board feeding frenzy could happen at any moment? What causes them to get so crazed? And why can't they just show some compassion instead of immediately going for the jugular and inflicting more pain upon someone who cannot and should not be expected to tolerate any more?

Message Board Feeding Frenzy Causes

Some CHs have observed message board feeding frenzies occurring in many sections of the CH.com message board but mostly in the Getting to Know Ya, Meds and Treatments and sometimes in the General Posts section where the newbies tend to congregate. However, they don't appear to be a common natural occurrence. Rather, it's more likely that message board feeding frenzies are rare events caused by a "supernormal stimulus," such as a high amount of stress in the world, at home, with the spouse, kids or job, a cowardly personality, lack of sleep, doing something that makes the sniper feel good at the expense of another, trying to maintain control over another person, excessive alcohol consumption or a gang mentality.

Studies have shown that some snipers can sense distressed newbies;
they respond to scents emitted by injured newbies and they can read the words of a wounded newbie thrashing around on the board looking for help and guidance. Given the choice between healthy and injured newbies, the sniper will always pick the injured newbie because it will take less energy and will be more "fun" to hurt it. But things get crazy when more than one sniper shows up to take advantage of the newbie's misfortune.

It's important to note that many CHs retain a sense of order within a message board feeding frenzy. The I'll Sit Back And Wait To See What The First Sniper Posts Sniper, for example, still maintains a quasi newbie pecking order during a message board feeding frenzy. The I've Got Your Back also known as The Yellow Striped Brave While I Have A Keyboard Between Me And The Newbie But Would Be A Chicken Sh*t If I Met You In Person sniper also behaves in a (somewhat) orderly fashion during what looks to be a chaotic newbie bloodbath. If this buffet entices multiple snipers, sometimes they'll inadvertently snipe each other.

Many message board feeding frenzies start when a newbie appears threatening to some snipers.  The reasons could be because the sniper is threatened by the newbie's intelligence, charisma, talents or the amount of attention or compassion other caring CHs are offering to them. These newbies are thrashing against the world and pain desperately looking for help and perhaps have been injured in their CH capture, and the desperation that some of them give off attract the snipers. Snipers become aroused by the scent of blood and think they've happened upon an easy target, but when more than one sniper shows up, the scene gets competitive.

Newbies aren't normally on the CHs menu. Snipers attacks on newbies might actually just be an error ("supernormal stimulus," such as a high amount of stress in the world, at home, with the spouse, kids or job, a cowardly personality, lack of sleep, doing something that makes the sniper feel good at the expense of another, trying to maintain control over another person, excessive alcohol consumption or a gang mentality) or an experimental snipe to determine how the newbie would react.  But one practice that is increasingly causing message board feeding frenzies may lead snipers to associate newbies as targets for their displaced venom even more. Sniper Safaris, an activity in which a group of frustrated and bored snipers search the message board to get up close and personal with newbies, have become a huge draw in some snipers. To attract the newbies, snipers use chum, or a mixture of blood, taunts, verbal challenges, etc.

Many times, the webmaster, moderators and other caring CHs warned people not to feed snipers egos because giving support to this kind of damaging behavior only helps to give them an audience and defeats the reason CH.com was created. If snipers start to link newbies as an easy target for their desperate need of attention, they might seek out other CHs who have no time or attention to give them and they will become very disappointed, rejected and angry when no attention is eventually given to them. Several injuries have already occurred to snipers who were no longer interested in what snipers had to say.  In addition, many CHs feel that sniping defeats the hard work, blood, sweat, tears, money, time and heartfelt goodwill that was used to create and keep CH.com a safe and secure home and second family for many who suffer around the world.




Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by Linda_Howell on Feb 26th, 2009 at 2:07pm


Awesome analogy Cyn. and so very true.

Disclaimer to this would be if one of the pieces of meat that they're feeding on,  shows up and his name is Ali and he's selling migraine surgery.  LOL

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by DennisM1045 on Feb 26th, 2009 at 2:12pm
Fun read.  All too true.

I think you have too much time on your hands  ;D

-Dennis-

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by Jimi on Feb 26th, 2009 at 2:19pm
All you said is true and not just here but on just about any message board that I frequent. I call them bullies. I have had to deal with the type all my life. >:(

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by cynjeep89 on Feb 26th, 2009 at 2:19pm
Unfortunately, I do have some time on my hands right now and also the need to try to express how disappointed I am in the way that some newbies and others have been treated.  It saddens me to see more pain intentionally inflicted on others who come here asking for help and guidance.  

Hugs to you, Dennis. :-*

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by DennisM1045 on Feb 26th, 2009 at 2:23pm

cynjeep89 wrote on Feb 26th, 2009 at 2:19pm:
Hugs to you, Dennis. :-*

Right back at ya  ;)

-Dennis-

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by LeLimey on Feb 26th, 2009 at 2:54pm
conniving little swipes that don't quite break "the rules" are every bit as much bullying as outward flounting of the rules - and ten times as contemptuous.

Well said Cyn.

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by BarbaraD on Feb 26th, 2009 at 3:10pm
Great post... and so true... Shark attack -- I love it... :)

Hugs BD

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by Kevin_M on Feb 26th, 2009 at 3:15pm

Jimi wrote on Feb 26th, 2009 at 2:19pm:
All you said is true and not just here but on just about any message board that I frequent. I call them bullies. I have had to deal with the type all my life. >:(


Step over this line, I dare you.  Knock this off my shoulder!





wrote on Feb 26th, 2009 at 2:54pm:
conniving little swipes that don't quite break "the rules" are every bit as much bullying as outward flounting of the rules - and ten times as contemptuous.

Well said Cyn.


You mean like mentioning you're missing a few straws in your broom?




;)

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by Brew on Feb 26th, 2009 at 3:22pm
With all due respect, Cyn, I have seen little to none of this here in the last couple of months. Used to be rampant - maybe it's the influence of the moderators.

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by Kevin_M on Feb 26th, 2009 at 3:30pm

Brew wrote on Feb 26th, 2009 at 3:22pm:
With all due respect, Cyn, I have seen little to none of this here in the last couple of months. Used to be rampant - maybe it's the influence of the moderators.


:)

I also place confidence in our moderators and Deej's ultimate call.


The many personalities sometimes offer a system of checks and balances.

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by ANNSIE on Feb 26th, 2009 at 3:45pm

Excellent post Cyn and pretty accurate  :)

Thank you  :-*

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by Jackie on Feb 26th, 2009 at 4:30pm
A well thought out and well written post.

Thank you, Cyn.

Much Love,
Jackie

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by Grandma_Sweet_Boy on Feb 26th, 2009 at 4:34pm
Very well put Cyn.  Thanks for getting the message out there.


Hugs
Carol

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by Jeannie on Feb 26th, 2009 at 5:14pm
 All of the posts I read are full of kindness and compassion.   For a while there were some issues but lately, I just see people here who want to help.  Maybe I'm not reading enough newbie posts....but that's how I see it.  

It was an interesting read though.   Thanks!

Jeannie

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by Artonio on Feb 26th, 2009 at 5:49pm
Cyndi!  [smiley=hug.gif]

with warm regards,
Tony

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by LeLimey on Feb 26th, 2009 at 8:27pm

Kevin_M wrote on Feb 26th, 2009 at 3:15pm:
You mean like mentioning you're missing a few straws in your broom?

;)



No silly, that's fun, banter and silliness between people who know each other. Goodness we've been posting together for so long I've lost count of the years!

The difference is, you can tease me about my broom and I can promise you the complete and utter discombobulation of your whojimmyflip without any fear of being misunderstood (well - sort of  ;D )

We KNOW each other - message board banter isn't the problem, it never has been. Fun and silliness makes life a lot easier.

When it's new posters though it's different. They have to find their feet and get used to us and us them - it's best behaviour with guests LOL - once they're family we can wrestle but only so long as we don't bite!

(I reserve the right to administer atomic wedgies though...)

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by Brew on Feb 26th, 2009 at 8:36pm
Atomic wedgies? Eee-gods!

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by Kevin_M on Feb 26th, 2009 at 8:46pm
Wheeew!!!   It's over.  I've been sweating that reply.  


I'm still alive!!!!!

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by LeLimey on Feb 26th, 2009 at 9:02pm
Yes but Kev - rember that famous line of Ronald Reagans' in "Kings Row"?








Look down....





;D

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by Kevin_M on Feb 26th, 2009 at 9:18pm
Damn.  



another Reagan:  "I forgot to duck."

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by Jonny on Feb 26th, 2009 at 9:34pm
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The bastards!

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by Charlie on Feb 27th, 2009 at 12:38am
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Good posts kids.

Charlie

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by ANNSIE on Feb 27th, 2009 at 1:16am

If I ever get chased by sharks again I would hope that at least they look as cute as Charlie's grey one ...  :)

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by Lobster on Feb 27th, 2009 at 2:13am
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Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by Kirk on Feb 27th, 2009 at 3:20am

Brew wrote on Feb 26th, 2009 at 3:22pm:
With all due respect, Cyn, I have seen little to none of this here in the last couple of months. Used to be rampant - maybe it's the influence of the moderators.

  That and the people who foment that kind of behavior tend to get locked out.
[smiley=smokin.gif]

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by Callico on Feb 27th, 2009 at 5:04pm
Cyndi,

Well said.  I had to think about this a bit before replying, and decided I couldn't add anything to it.  

I am glad to see the civility has returned in good measure lately, but do think we must be careful to keep it that way.

Jerry

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by seasonalboomer on Feb 27th, 2009 at 5:35pm
By virtue of disagreeing does that brand me as a "sniper"?
Since the "new rules" have been put in place and seemingly been understood, it is a pretty tame place and I haven't seen this kind of behavior at all. As for before everyone went all "soft" there actually are some people who arrive on the boards who deserved a little scrutiny.

I would agree with the post that you've got too much time on your hands to have come up with such an elaborate explanation of behavior that is no where near as rampant as you seem to describe.

I've never seriously considered leaving the community or "going guest" and have yet to break the rules and get "locked", but this kind of discourse makes me feel about the same way I feel about our country right now.  Not too good.... time to step away from the board again for awhile.

Scott    :-/

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by BlueMeanie on Feb 27th, 2009 at 6:02pm
DJ recruited lifegaurds to ward off the so called sharks. They have wet suits on and are available 24/7.  ;)

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by lashultzwfe on Feb 27th, 2009 at 8:05pm
Cyn,

Nice job on this post...

on a side note, we missed you at Davcon and Loucon!!

Diane

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by Linda_Howell on Feb 27th, 2009 at 9:39pm

Quote:
DJ recruited lifegaurds to ward off the so called sharks. They have wet suits on and are available 24/7.  


Have any of us told you lately that we love you Bob?  Well honey, I'm telling you now.  :-* :-*

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by Jonny on Feb 27th, 2009 at 10:06pm

seasonalboomer wrote on Feb 27th, 2009 at 5:35pm:
By virtue of disagreeing does that brand me as a "sniper"?
Since the "new rules" have been put in place and seemingly been understood, it is a pretty tame place and I haven't seen this kind of behavior at all. As for before everyone went all "soft" there actually are some people who arrive on the boards who deserved a little scrutiny.

I would agree with the post that you've got too much time on your hands to have come up with such an elaborate explanation of behavior that is no where near as rampant as you seem to describe.

I've never seriously considered leaving the community or "going guest" and have yet to break the rules and get "locked", but this kind of discourse makes me feel about the same way I feel about our country right now.  Not too good.... time to step away from the board again for awhile.

Scott    :-/


Well said, Sir! :-X

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by Jonny on Feb 27th, 2009 at 10:20pm

Linda_Howell wrote on Feb 26th, 2009 at 2:07pm:
Awesome analogy Cyn. and so very true.

Disclaimer to this would be if one of the pieces of meat that they're feeding on,  shows up and his name is Ali and he's selling migraine surgery.  LOL


It would be nice to know if this is selective Enforcement.

I mean...is it all right to pick on Ali?

Thats the vibe im getting.

Do the moderators tell us who we can pick on?

It seems that way.

Just say'in.... ;)

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by Linda_Howell on Feb 27th, 2009 at 10:25pm

Jonny, you cannot be serious about Ali.   Well maybe you can.   :o Ali is a troll set by DJ as a troll.  Anytime his many personas come up he is eliminated here by DJ.   Not the same thing at ALL!

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by George on Feb 27th, 2009 at 10:33pm
Folks won't see much of Ali.  Just sayin'.

Best,

George

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by stevegeebe on Feb 27th, 2009 at 10:35pm
Your concern seems to focus on the Getting to know and Meds boards. Understandably. when a Cluster Head finally finds this place it is like an epiphany and they should be welcomed as if a long lost brother or sister has finally found home. That's sacred ground. Know what I mean?  I believe that's what DJ ultimately had in mind.

Do I miss the rancor of the days before mods and stricter limits? A little bit.

Yes..but not as much as I miss the people who might have left because things were getting rough.

Steve G


Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by Jonny on Feb 27th, 2009 at 10:39pm
So now, "conniving little swipes that don't quite break "the rules" are every bit as much bullying as outward flounting of the rules"

Is that applied to asking a question?

All I did was ask a question!


seasonalboomer wrote on Feb 27th, 2009 at 5:35pm:
By virtue of disagreeing does that brand me as a "sniper"?

Scott    :-/






Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by Linda_Howell on Feb 27th, 2009 at 11:07pm
You mean this one?


   
Quote:
is it all right to pick on Ali?



Ali and his Migraine surgery has ALWAYS been fair game.  But you already knew that.   ;D

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by Jonny on Feb 27th, 2009 at 11:22pm

Linda_Howell wrote on Feb 27th, 2009 at 11:07pm:
You mean this one?


   
Quote:
is it all right to pick on Ali?



Ali and his Migraine surgery has ALWAYS been fair game.  But you already knew that.   ;D


You say that Ali is fair game?

Why should anyone be fair game under the new rules?

I know what you mean, but why break the new rules and let everyone have a shot at Ali.......Aint that breaking the rules?

Rules are rules....No?

I guess not when they are selective!

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by Linda_Howell on Feb 27th, 2009 at 11:32pm

Quote:
I know what you mean, but why break the new rules and let everyone have a shot at Ali.......Aint that breaking the rules?


Ya know what Jonny?  You already know the answer to this, you've klnown it for years now and  you're just mudding the waters here.  if you have a problem with the rules...take it to PM with DJ...he'll set ya straight.  

   [smiley=hug.gif]

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by George on Feb 27th, 2009 at 11:34pm

Quote:
I know what you mean, but why break the new rules and let everyone have a shot at Ali.......Aint that breaking the rules?


Moot.

There won't be much of an opportunity for anyone to take a shot at Ali.  Last time he showed up a couple of weeks ago, he was visible for all of five minutes.

Again--folks won't be seeing much of him.

Best,

George

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by Jonny on Feb 27th, 2009 at 11:38pm

Linda_Howell wrote on Feb 27th, 2009 at 11:32pm:

Quote:
I know what you mean, but why break the new rules and let everyone have a shot at Ali.......Aint that breaking the rules?


Ya know what Jonny?  You already know the answer to this, you've klnown it for years now and  you're just mudding the waters here.  if you have a problem with the rules...take it to PM with DJ...he'll set ya straight.  

   [smiley=hug.gif]


Nope, I aint mudding shit.

If I call Ali a dumbass will I get locked up?

See, this is where I have a problem with selective enforcment.

You say we can pick on Ali, but we cant on anyone else.

WTF?


Linda_Howell wrote on Feb 26th, 2009 at 2:07pm:
Disclaimer to this would be if one of the pieces of meat that they're feeding on,  shows up and his name is Ali and he's selling migraine surgery.  LOL





Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by Guiseppi on Feb 28th, 2009 at 2:29am
Nope, I aint mudding shit.

If I call Ali a dumbass will I get locked up?

See, this is where I have a problem with selective enforcment.

You say we can pick on Ali, but we cant on anyone else.

WTF?


wow :-/

Title: Re: Shark Feeding Frenzy Akin To Message Board Sniping
Post by andrewjb on Feb 28th, 2009 at 5:38am

wrote on Feb 27th, 2009 at 6:02pm:
DJ recruited lifegaurds to ward off the so called sharks. They have wet suits on and are available 24/7.  ;)


:), And such a good idea it was.
However i still feel the donning of ''Borats'', Light Blue Mankini would assist in recognising the authority's.
You know the idea, Something distinctive.
8-), Andrew.

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