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Title: What say you?
Post by deltadarlin on Jun 2^nd, 2009 at 10:24am

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I don't think the pharmacist should be charged with 1st degree murder, but he should be charged. I was always taught that once the perpetrator is down (this boy wasn't moving), get the hell out of dodge.

Title: Re: What say you?
Post by Charlie on Jun 2^nd, 2009 at 10:56am

I know the story. Maybe he'll settle for some sort of manslaughter and not too long a sentence. Murder for this? No way.

Charlie

Title: Re: What say you?
Post by Lobster on Jun 2^nd, 2009 at 11:16am

He is 57 years old. Even a manslaughter charge will see his best remaining years past him when he gets out of jail.

One of the bandits had a pistol. Once you choose to take part in that type of crime, your life is forfeit in my opinion.

I would fight it. It takes one sympathetic person to hang the jury. A 1 in 12 chance of going free. There is a strong likelihood I would hang such a jury.

Title: Re: What say you?
Post by deltadarlin on Jun 2^nd, 2009 at 11:52am

I don't have a problem with the fact that he shot the guy, not at all (would have done the same thing myself). HOWEVER, I do have a problem with the fact that he chased the other robbers out of the store, came back in, went and got the other pistol out of the drawer and dropped five rounds into the immobile person's chest. IMHO, that goes beyong the boundaries of self-defense.

Any LEO's opinion on this (or retired LEO's)?

Title: Re: What say you?
Post by Brew on Jun 2^nd, 2009 at 12:02pm

See? That's why God invented 12ga. 00 Buckshot shells.

If the first one is well-placed, there's little need for a second shot.

Seriously, maybe the guy went a little overboard, but who among us has been in his shoes? I've had some adrenaline pumping, but has it ever been half as much as this pharmacist?

Title: Re: What say you?
Post by deltadarlin on Jun 2^nd, 2009 at 12:09pm

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It appears there may be mitigating circumstances. The pharmacist had been robbed two times prior to this and the second time he was robbed, he was badly beaten.

After watching the video, what bothers me is the pharmacist turned his back on this young man lying in the floor after he shot him, not once, but twice. Common sense tells me that I should NEVER turn my back on a potential threat if I believe that threat is still viable (even in a highly charged emotional state).

Title: Re: What say you?
Post by E-Double on Jun 2^nd, 2009 at 1:31pm

Murder No
Self Defense surely

Dropping 5 additional bullets...disgusting...

HOWEVER

He will either get off on a PTSD or some similar diagnosis due to his history

or

He will hang because of the 5 additional shots and if he gets off will have a lovely civil suit against him.