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Daily Chat >> General Posts >> Airline Mechanics Can't Read English http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1246041652 Message started by KingOfPain on Jun 26th, 2009 at 2:40pm |
Title: Re: Airline Mechanics Can't Read English Post by Charlie on Jun 26th, 2009 at 4:04pm Quote:
There ya go. All I can say is that trying to save a buck stops here! It makes me wonder if there were some other causes of the Buffalo crash. The commuter airline there is really into cheap. It ain't right. >:( Charlie |
Title: Re: Airline Mechanics Can't Read English Post by Sandy_C on Jun 26th, 2009 at 5:44pm
First we've got to worry about untrained pilots, or those that fail repeated tests flying the secondary or commuter flights. Now, we gotta worry about the people who are supposed to make sure every plane in the air is in tip top shape, but they can't read English.
Shit. This really makes me want to reconsider my US Air flights to St. Thomas in September. NAH! Just cross your fingers for me. Sandy |
Title: Re: Airline Mechanics Can't Read English Post by Brew on Jun 26th, 2009 at 6:19pm Sandy_C wrote on Jun 26th, 2009 at 5:44pm:
Guess you're just gonna have to drive to St. Louis instead. |
Title: Re: Airline Mechanics Can't Read English Post by Linda_Howell on Jun 26th, 2009 at 6:54pm
What Brew said. Except it is in july not Sept.
Nah.....St Thomas under any circumstances is worth the risk. |
Title: Re: Airline Mechanics Can't Read English Post by Brew on Jun 26th, 2009 at 6:58pm
Okay, both.
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Title: Re: Airline Mechanics Can't Read English Post by AussieBrian on Jun 26th, 2009 at 8:17pm
(Attributed to other airlines as well but still worth the read, Brian.)
Here are some actual logged maintenance complaints and problems as submitted by Qantas pilots and the solution recorded by maintenance engineers. By the way, Qantas is the only major airline that has never had an accident. (P = The problem logged by the pilot.) (S = The solution and action taken by the engineers.) P: Left inside main tyre almost needs replacement. S: Almost replaced left inside main tyre. P: Test flight OK, except auto-land very rough. S: Auto-land not installed on this aircraft. P: Something loose in cockpit. S: Something tightened in cockpit. P: Dead bugs on windshield. S: Live bugs on back-order. P: Autopilot in altitude-hold mode produces a 200 feet per minute descent. S: Cannot reproduce problem on ground. P: Evidence of leak on right main landing gear. S: Evidence removed. P: DME volume unbelievably loud. S: DME volume set to more believable level. P: Friction locks cause throttle levers to stick. S: That's what they're there for. P: IFF inoperative. S: IFF always inoperative in OFF mode. P: Suspected crack in windshield. S: Suspect you're right. P: Number 3 engine missing. S: Engine found on right wing after brief search. P: Aircraft handles funny. S: Aircraft warned to straighten up, fly right, and be serious. P: Target radar hums. S: Reprogrammed target radar with lyrics. P: Mouse in cockpit. S: Cat installed. P: Noise coming from under instrument panel. Sounds like a midget pounding on something with a hammer. S: Took hammer away from midget |
Title: Re: Airline Mechanics Can't Read English Post by Batch on Jun 26th, 2009 at 10:54pm
Good people of Clusterville,
A few factoids and a different perspective on this topic you might want to consider. It's not the evil aircraft manufacturers... It's the idiot congress and unions that drove, and continue to drive, aircraft production and maintenance off shore... It's been happening since the late 60s when Congress and the unions started making commuter aircraft production and maintenance so expensive due to prohibitive Federal tax and strong arm union concessions. At that point, the law of supply and demand took effect, trumped congress, turned it's back on unions, and went off shore. Lotsa good folks lost their jobs working on aircraft production lines and aircraft maintenance when these companies were down-sized and driven out of business by the idiots in Congress and the same union mentality that has destroyed most of our auto industry. There is a bright side of this coin... During the mid-70's I kept 3 of my 15 assigned F-4 Phantom fighters in rework facilities on a rotating basis at Air-Asia/E-Systems in Taipei, Taiwan, the NIPPI Corporation at the Aircraft Rework facility, Atsugi Air Base, Japan, and Naval Air Repair Facility, NAS Cubi Pt, RP. I walked the production lines at each repair facility to watch my aircraft go through rework on several occasions and it was a very rare day I found anyone working on any of my aircraft that could speak English... And... when they came out of rework, the jets looked great and flew great too. As the Squadron Maintenance Officer, I flew all the Acceptance Check Flights and most of the ferry flights back aboard ship. In addition, you can rest assured that the majority of folks that built all the twin engine turboprop commuter bug smashers you ride from local airports to the mega hubs... don't speak a word of English either... Most of these aircraft are made in Brazil by Embraer a.k.a. Empresa Brasileira de Aeronáutica, S. A. (Brazilian aerospace conglomerate)... This is a great reminder to the social progressive liberals... You were the ones that wanted a global economy, big unions, and other peoples money to pay for your social agenda... The only problem is you forgot about unintended consequences... so don't come crying when you realize you finally got what you wanted... and it wasn't what you expected! Take care, V/R, Batch |
Title: Re: Airline Mechanics Can't Read English Post by Charlie on Jun 26th, 2009 at 11:01pm
Good stuff Batch.
Is there any ill of any kind that isn't the direct result of all those liberal traitors in Congress? We want to know. Charlie |
Title: Re: Airline Mechanics Can't Read English Post by monty on Jun 26th, 2009 at 11:29pm Charlie wrote on Jun 26th, 2009 at 11:01pm:
Just saw where Rush is blaming Sanford's adultery on Obama. Seems that Obama has spread so much liberalism over America that he destroyed hope among Republicans ... a natural response to this despair is for conservatives to jet around the world having affairs at the taxpayers' expense. |
Title: Re: Airline Mechanics Can't Read English Post by Batch on Jun 26th, 2009 at 11:37pm
Charlie,
For the record... There was a time when I voted for true Americans that just happened to be Democrats... Senators Henry M. "Scoop" Jackson, and Warren G. Magnuson... Both were strong on Defense and foreign affairs including support to Israel. The were also strong in their support of sound domestic policies that created more jobs than they ever lost. They held taxes down and didn't hug trees or push for union control of the aircraft industry at Boeing... They were common sense people who never forgot they worked for the voters in the State of Washington... Take care, V/R, Batch |
Title: Re: Airline Mechanics Can't Read English Post by Shawn on Jun 27th, 2009 at 12:16am Charlie wrote on Jun 26th, 2009 at 11:01pm:
Good stuff Is there any ill of any kind that isn't the direct result of ;) |
Title: Re: Airline Mechanics Can't Read English Post by midwestbeth on Jun 27th, 2009 at 9:04am
My daughter is boarding a plane in Dallas right now. I don't feel reassured.
But, I still would be more concerned about her if she were driving instead. |
Title: Re: Airline Mechanics Can't Read English Post by [joHnny]w_ an_h on Jun 27th, 2009 at 10:23am monty wrote on Jun 26th, 2009 at 11:29pm:
rush blames every fuckin thing on obama. where sanford sticks his dohicky has nothing to do with liberalism and everything to do with the fact that hes a creep. until rush can agnolage that republicans can blame no one else to blame but themselves maybe rush would gain some credibility but he never will cuz hes an a$$hole. |
Title: Re: Airline Mechanics Can't Read English Post by [joHnny]w_ an_h on Jun 27th, 2009 at 10:39am Batch wrote on Jun 26th, 2009 at 11:37pm:
unions aren't unions anymore, they are clubs. the soul purpose of a union is to assure that the workers have rights. these so called unions seek out companies who have workers that already have a good wage and benefits. for instance the teamsters union. the teamsters seeked out overnight. overnight driver already made union scale and had comparable benefits. if overnight drivers went union they would actually make less factoring in the union dues. why would these drivers need any kind of representation from the teamsters. also the teamsters union is not interested in these companies who's drivers stay out for weeks at a time and clear $600 a week and have no benefits what so ever. these are the people that desperately need to be unionized and the teamsters union doesn't give 2 shits about them. i just got hired on at con way a non union carrier. most of the ltl trucking companies around columbus have closed there doors that have been around for 80 or so years however conway pays their drivers more than scale and they are hiring by the 100s. union carriers have allot of bullshit rules and allot of politics. not to mention allot of severely damaged freight. unions tell you what to do, when your going to do it, and how to vote. i'll vote for someone because i believe in what they stand for not because i'm told to. in wich case you could blame this on the "Democrats" |
Title: Re: Airline Mechanics Can't Read English Post by Brew on Jun 27th, 2009 at 11:15am Quote:
To keep the union reps and all the vendors that supply benefits to the union members (i.e., insurance salesmen) in a job. These union bosses sold out a long time ago. They care as much about the rank and file as our congresscritters do. |
Title: Re: Airline Mechanics Can't Read English Post by Charlie on Jun 27th, 2009 at 12:14pm
I'm usually not a fan of unions until I realize that before them, workers were treated as not much more than slaves by most of our wonderful industrial giants. My thinking is that all in all, they've done more good than harm.
Batch: These indeed were good guys....old fashioned politicians. I miss them. I almost always voted Republican until 1984. By that time the GOP lost its grip on common sense and did its best to support only candidates that pretended to support far right social causes. They found a way to stick around when they cornered the Christian conservative vote. Being the party of the Jerry Falwells and Pat Robertson types is more dangerous to our democracy than liberal ideas. In order to keep these people happy in their zeal to twist or deny science and traditional American belief in critical thinking, the GOP lost me. Using these people only to get votes made me look elsewhere and I found people that didn't deny our history and treated rivals as just that rather than evil. These people made the GOP a party of intolerance and a party incapable of civil debate. What a shame. I doubt that they would welcome the Everett Dirksens, Barry Goldwaters or Howard Bakers back into the party. Charlie |
Title: Re: Airline Mechanics Can't Read English Post by Brew on Jun 27th, 2009 at 12:27pm Charlie wrote on Jun 27th, 2009 at 12:14pm:
I don't give them a pass for what they've become. At one time unions were a good thing. But like I said above, their leaders have sold out. |
Title: Re: Airline Mechanics Can't Read English Post by Batch on Jun 27th, 2009 at 12:37pm
Charlie,
You knew Hoffa... What would he say? JoHnny's right. The time for unions passed a long time ago... There are so many public laws now governing trucking and interstate transportation of goods the idiots in congress wrote to help the unions, but they had the unintended consequence of defeating their original intent. All unions do now is buy politicians that will re-write existing legislation so it will favor unions and make it nearly impossible for non-union small business. Ask Dingy Harry about the Service Employees International Union SEIU... They've lined his election campaign pockets with millions every year... Take care, V/R, Batch |
Title: Re: Airline Mechanics Can't Read English Post by Sandy_C on Jun 27th, 2009 at 1:14pm Linda_Howell wrote on Jun 26th, 2009 at 6:54pm:
St. Thomas it is in Sept - we fly from Charlotte NC nonstop to St Thomas on 9/12. Our 40th anniversary is 9/13 and we are spending it in St. Thomas no matter what. Except....hurricane ??? As to the mechanics of our US Air flight, I'll leave that one to the power above and pray. Ill also be praying - no hurricanes and would appreciate as much help from all of you should you have any "ins" to the power above. Sandy |
Title: Re: Airline Mechanics Can't Read English Post by Brew on Jun 27th, 2009 at 1:33pm
I noticed you artfully dodged the suggestion of coming to St. Louis in July.
Tell you what - we'll pray for talented mechanics and high pressure systems in September if you'll come and hug my neck in July. Deal? |
Title: Re: Airline Mechanics Can't Read English Post by Sandy_C on Jun 27th, 2009 at 2:03pm
Brew, Bill, my brother.
Yes, I did artfully dodge July in St. Louis, and believe me, I would give anything to hug y ur neck. Here is my July schedule: Weekend - 7/10 - 7/12 - granddaughter's first birthday - not allowed to miss under any circumstances. Hope all understand. Weekend 7/17 - 7/19 - Wedding of best friend - I am matron of honor. Can't "not be there. Weekend 7/24 - 7/26 - Wedding, son of closest friend for 20+ years. They came to both my daughters wedding, can't not show to theirs. Weekend - 7/30 (Thurs) - 8/4 - Babysitting granddaughter while daughter and son-in law celebrate 10th anniversary. July????? What's that? Never heard of it. Sigh - Dauum, I'm tired just reading my own itinerary. Sandy |
Title: Re: Airline Mechanics Can't Read English Post by Brew on Jun 27th, 2009 at 2:11pm
Well, sheeeuut, Sandy. I sure am gonna miss you.
Like I already do. |
Title: Re: Airline Mechanics Can't Read English Post by Sandy_C on Jun 27th, 2009 at 2:26pm
Me too, Bill.
SMOOCH! Sandy |
Title: Re: Airline Mechanics Can't Read English Post by monty on Jun 27th, 2009 at 6:47pm Batch wrote on Jun 26th, 2009 at 10:54pm:
Actually, it is much simpler than that. When a company gets a contract to provide qualified mechanics, or has a airline schedule to carry passengers, they have to hire qualified mechanics. If they don't, they create a problem - no need to blame society. Likewise, when you see a kid at a burger stand picking his zits and then handling food, don't blame schools or gay marriage or the recent Earth Day celebration ... this is a problem that comes from a lack of training and supervision from the fast food chain. Period. The fact that we have FAA oversight or a local food inspector does not relieve businesses of their responsibility to consider safety in all they do.... although these government overseers sometimes could use more oversight themselves. |
Title: Re: Airline Mechanics Can't Read English Post by Batch on Jun 29th, 2009 at 12:12pm Quote:
Monty, I couldn't agree more... Here are some additional examples... DHS is now enforcing illegal immigration laws by closing down businesses with punitive fines for hiring illegal aliens, but not deporting the illegal aliens. At the same time, idiots in Congress turn around and write a public law and amend others that allow illegal aliens to be hired on "shovel ready" Federal stimulus projects with tax dollars we don't have so the idiots in Congress must borrow them. Why that is??? We have over 7 million American taxpayers that are unemployed now and the unemployment rate continues to rise from 6.4% in 4Q 2008 to 8.1% in 1Q 2009 and presently stands at 9.4% as of May 2009 yet many idiots in Congress want to increase the number of alien guest workers allowed to enter the U.S. and still refuse to call for the enforcement of existing laws directing the deportation of illegal aliens... Why that is? As if that weren't bad enough, instead of bringing pressure on Federal, State, and Local law enforcement agencies to enforce existing immigration laws and deport people found guilty of entering the US illegally, Congress makes sure illegal aliens are provided with free medical care in every emergency room and leaves provisions open so they qualify for Medicaid. Why that is??? While we are a humane society, and giving medical aid is the right thing to do for anyone needing it, we are also a Nation of laws, yet even after people are clearly identified as illegal aliens (Federal laws prohibit asking suspected illegal aliens receiving aid in the ER about their immigration status), deportation is rare. Why that is??? Congress also provides an estimated 3 million anchor babies of illegal aliens with free medical insurance up to the age of 19 under a law they passed and amended called the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP). CHIP is paid for primarily by a Federal tax that was increased to $105.69 on every 1000 cigarettes ($21.14 a carton, $2.12 a pack) per the ‘‘Children’s Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2009’’. I'll tell you why that is... The reason why the idiots in Congress pushed the legislation above and fails to call for the enforcement of existing laws governing illegal immigration is very clear... These idiots are pandering to the illegal alien parents of the anchor babies so that once they are given amnesty and allowed to vote, or be registered fraudulently by ACORN so they can vote to keep these idiots in power. In addition, the idiots in Congress hope they'll have a generation of anchor babies that will vote the same when they come of age. I could go into the Barney Frank and Chris Dodd subprime loan gig, or the Chris Dodd "Friends of Angelo" loans to show were congressional oversight is little more that the foxes running the hen house, but I'll save that for another time as all this is a matter of record (like the Congressional Record) with plenty of incriminating evidence in their own words on You Tube. Take care... and BOHICA. V/R, Batch |
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