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Daily Chat >> General Posts >> Fallen Icons and Time for Action http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1246048269 Message started by Batch on Jun 26th, 2009 at 4:31pm |
Title: Re: Fallen Icons and Time for Action Post by Charlie on Jun 26th, 2009 at 4:42pm
I'm skeptical about this bill myself. Wishful thinking perhaps.
Charlie |
Title: Re: Fallen Icons and Time for Action Post by Sandy_C on Jun 26th, 2009 at 5:07pm
Hey Batch,
Already did. Called my reps and senators at their local offices, e-mailed them, wrote them and called the DC numbers to ask them not to vote for this bill. Everybody - READ THIS BILL! I read that they might have voted on this today, so you may be too late. I hope not. Sandy |
Title: Re: Fallen Icons and Time for Action Post by Sandy_C on Jun 26th, 2009 at 5:08pm
Sorry for a second post.
This topic is buried in a post regarding the icons we've lost this week. Maybe it needs it's own thread, if not too late. Sandy |
Title: Re: Fallen Icons and Time for Action Post by Brew on Jun 26th, 2009 at 6:08pm Sandy_C wrote on Jun 26th, 2009 at 5:07pm:
John Boehner is currently reading the entire 310-page amendment to this on the House floor. They're gonna be there at least until midnight. |
Title: Re: Fallen Icons and Time for Action Post by Brew on Jun 26th, 2009 at 6:10pm
And right now, the tally is 210-210, with 14 "undecided."
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Title: Re: Fallen Icons and Time for Action Post by Brew on Jun 26th, 2009 at 7:52pm
I guess Boehner decided to skip a few parts.
211 democrats and 9 republicans voted for it. The nine republicans were: Bono, Mack, Castle, Kirk, Lance, LoBiondo, McHugh, Reichert, and Smith (NJ). |
Title: Re: Fallen Icons and Time for Action Post by Brew on Jun 26th, 2009 at 8:13pm
You're right, Batch. It was 8. Bono-Mack is one person.
Remember, the system has to be crashed before it can be rebooted with a new operating system. |
Title: Re: Fallen Icons and Time for Action Post by Linda_Howell on Jun 26th, 2009 at 10:00pm Quote:
Hmmm....Glad I'm not the only one who didn't see any logical connection with celebrities who have died in the last week and..... congress bills that have passed idiots in the house of representatives carbon tax The American clean energy act. HUH???? ::) |
Title: Re: Fallen Icons and Time for Action Post by Kevin_M on Jun 27th, 2009 at 6:49am
Cool tally.
science 1 carnival barkers 0 |
Title: Re: Fallen Icons and Time for Action Post by Batch on Jun 27th, 2009 at 8:58am
I hear you Monty and Kevin... There are striking similarities between the social-progressive liberal leaders in the 111th Politburo and Jacko. Both are addicted and both spend more than they make (for Congress... They spend more than WE make).
The idiots in Congress are addicted to power so they can relieve you of your freedoms and your money to push their liberal agenda, and for MJ it was opiates. Both are very addictive... For MJ it's too late... However, the idiots in the 111th Politburo are in need of detox... And you have the power to vote them into detox... Here are the GOP Turncoats. If they represent your district, you have the opportunity to vote them out of office and into detox: Bono Mack Castle Kirk Lance LoBiondo McHugh Reichert Smith (NJ) If you would like to contact them to express your displeasure, here’s how… Here is the breakdown of who voted, and how… Bono Mack (CA) 202-225-5330 Castle (DE) 202-225-4165 Kirk (IL) 202-225-4835 Lance (NJ) 202-225-5361 Lobiondo (NJ) 202-225-6572 McHugh (NY) 202-225-4611 Reichart (WA) 202-225-7761 Chris Smith (NJ) 202-225-3765 You can find the full roll call vote for H.R. 2454 at the following link: START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to ![]() ![]() Advise the idiots that really don't care about you and your family or our great Nation to seek employment elsewhere come election time Take care, V/R, Batch |
Title: Re: Fallen Icons and Time for Action Post by Charlie on Jun 27th, 2009 at 12:29pm
I confess that the big part of my ambivalence toward the bill is money. The are supposed to build one of these bizarre "carbon capture' power plants here in Jamestown. The mayor has a real hardon for it. Everybody knows that it would significantly raise our electric rates. Jamestown has about the cheapest power around. My bills average between 25 and 30 dollars thanks to Niagara Falls and our own system that we use very little most of the time.
Finding places underground to pump CO2 seems a bit strange too. Charlie |
Title: Re: Fallen Icons and Time for Action Post by Batch on Jun 27th, 2009 at 12:57pm
Charlie,
I share your concerns... So far I've not seen the cost estimates of compressing and cooling the CO2 in order to pump it underground... My guess is the cost per kiloton is going to be prohibitive... I hope you like carbonated water... i.e. Mit Gas... Once the CO2 gets into the aquifer, you'll have all the Schweppe's you need and then some... When you think about it, the whole idea of trading carbon credits for something you pump underground and forget just so the government can tax the transaction proceeds, is kind of like fooling around with frozen flatulence... One slip up so it thaws out and we've got a smelly mess. This has got to be one of the biggest and most idiotic Ponzi schemes yet... And all because Al Gore has an inconvenient thought... YGBSM> Take care... And BOHICA... You ain't seen nothing yet... V/R, Batch |
Title: Re: Fallen Icons and Time for Action Post by Charlie on Jun 27th, 2009 at 2:12pm
There's supposed to be one of these things in Norway, I think. No doubt that it's Svenn's fault.. 8-)
Charlie |
Title: Re: Fallen Icons and Time for Action Post by monty on Jun 27th, 2009 at 6:19pm Batch wrote on Jun 27th, 2009 at 8:58am:
I say we put the atmosphere into detox ... start weaning ourselves off our addiction to foreign oil and dirty coal and lower emissions of mercury, cadmium and carbon dioxide. One way to do that is to roll some of the external costs of dirty fuels into the price ... when an industry or utility becomes more efficient, they create credits that they can trade for a profit. Win-Win. |
Title: Re: Fallen Icons and Time for Action Post by Kevin_M on Jun 27th, 2009 at 6:44pm Batch wrote on Jun 27th, 2009 at 8:58am:
Connecting the two provides the enviable highlight missed from reading outside the thread's assisting links from the John Birch Society, friends at Heritage and such, handy-dandy if there's a circus in town or a job opening at Neverland. Quote:
After Black's mephitic air discovery 1755, Priestly's Pyrmont Water didn't quite live up to the claim when taken on Cook's Resolution and Adventure 1772, but a taste developed, patented by Johannes in 1783. Life living close to fermenting beer has all kinds of possibilities. Even the backyard malt dad made during a life of young Sam Adams had its contributing potential. That damn rebel. ;) Somehow though, there's been more learned about CO2. |
Title: Re: Fallen Icons and Time for Action Post by MJ on Jun 28th, 2009 at 1:13pm
We all blame the power plants etc.. for CO2 emmissions lets not forget soda pop.
START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to ![]() ![]() There are 2.5 grams of CO2 dissolved in each 16oz. bottle of soft drink. The average American drinks 43 gallons of soda pop a year. Therefore, every American releases over 400 grams of CO2 annually! Multiply that by 250 million Americans and we are talking a Hurricane Katrina of CO2 being released by Americans every year by flatus and belched gas! Al Gore has invented the carbon offset CO2 capture kit. Basically, each plastic bottle will come with a one way enema tip. When one empties one’s soda pop, he or she will immediately place the tip on the empty container. When one feels the need to belch one simply expels this burst of CO2 safely into the bottle by mouth through the tip. Then later, as the harmful gas is to be passed in private as flatus, one inserts the tip in one’s rectum and catches the remainder of the CO2, then tosses the bottle—with tip intact--in the garbage where it will be safely taken to a landfill and buried. For each CO2 capture bottle used in this manner, one earns one carbon credit good for using up to twenty times the electricity used by the average American. This might seem to be messy and a little inconvenient; but, is it too much to do to save a polar bear from drowning? (I know, :-X) More CO2 capture potential to create thought. START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to ![]() ![]() |
Title: Re: Fallen Icons and Time for Action Post by MJ on Jun 28th, 2009 at 2:08pm
Thought I would add this link as the bill really is a tax on much more than the carbom emmissions generated by power generators and your home heating systems.
Its a tax on soda pop, dry ice, cleaners, steel, wine and beer, refrigerated foods et al, cryogenics, ripening of bananas and other fruits, and just about anything eaten, made and consumed today. An alternate solution to sequestering underground and money maker would be to capitalize on the trade aspect of the bill by injecting CO2 into large greenhouses for plant growth, (vegetables, fruits, flowers) with a significant increase in yields, then harvest the oxygen generated by the plants. Hmmmmm. While we are attemting to curb carbon emmissions we are now ramping up to use more CO2 as an alternate refrigerant gas in grocery stores, wharehouses and the buildings we work and live in. An average fast food place may use upwards of 200 lbs of liquified co2 per day in your drinks, over a years time with just one large chain, that quite possibly could equal the carbon outputs of many small power plants One might think this bill is better thought out as an income generator than its portrayed I have credits to sell any takers. START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to ![]() ![]() |
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