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Title: New to CH...but not to clusters! Post by Joni on Aug 16th, 2009 at 3:09am
Greetings-I have had episodic clusters since 1986. My family has been cursed with 10 people having clusters spanning 5 generations. Though it is extremely unfortunate for my family, we have always had each other for support, information, and understanding! I found it interesting on this site that it wasn't considered hereditary. We have always said that someone should study our family! Also, 7 of us are females! Go figure. Between us, we have had most all of the different treatment plans and we don't all use the same one. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. Half of us use Imitrex alone and the other half use a varied mix of prophylactic and sudden onset medications. For the 5 that use Imitrex injections, it is a miracle for them. My sister has been the hardest hit with clusters stating at age 16 until present and she is 60. She has a permanent droopy eye lid on her effected side. Though I have probably suffered more because for years I wouldn't take much of anything. I am Chicken Little in the family because medication affects me so strongly that I am very cautious about what I take. I have never used Imitrex, but I'm not saying I won't. I learned quickly that you never know what you will do until that first pain in the eye starts and you panic. Which brings me to why I am here on this site. I just started a new bout after 2 years. Isn't it funny how you forget just how devastating it is until you get that twinge in your eye or ear? Now, I take very small doses of Paxil, Amitriptyline (which currant news is that it is not indicated for clusters any longer), and Verapamil year round. When I know a bout is coming on, I double the Verapamil and start Nasonex Spray. If this doesn't do it, I do a round of prednizone, but I really don't like to because of the rebound headaches that it can cause if not very careful tapering. I am so glad I found this site! It will be refreshing to have new info! I have already gotten several good tips for when I see the doctor on Monday and fight the battle for the next 8 weeks. Thanks for your suggestions and support.
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Title: Re: New to CH...but not to clusters! Post by Guiseppi on Aug 16th, 2009 at 1:35pm
Welcome to the board! Someone posted the numbers and I'll get them wrong.....while One tenth of 1% of the population get CH...your odds are about 2X that if someone in your family has it. We have a few parent child sufferers here......but WOW!!!!!......seems like you guys REALLY caught the black marble. :'(
Glad you found us, take a minute and check out the oxygen info link on the left. With a few minor adjustments to how it's administered it's, enjoying a very high degree of success. Cheap, no side effects, FAST!!...6-8 minutes for me, many othere report similar abort times, certainly worth a shot! Wishing you a short cycle this go round. Joe |
Title: Re: New to CH...but not to clusters! Post by Joni on Aug 17th, 2009 at 5:48pm
Thanks Joe! I tried oxygen years ago with some success, but many rebounds as soon as I was off. Rebounds have been a big problem with me. I have learned to start out with tiny doses of anything I take until it works (if it does) and then it is easier to taper for a long time with less chance of rebounds. I have to be especially careful with steroids, though they have been a sure way to stop them if I just can't take it any longer. I'm so glad the O2 works for you!! My main drug is Verapamil, which I take at a VERY low dose (10mg daily) year round and 20mg when cycle starts. It has allowed me to enjoy up to 2 years headache free at one point. That had never happened before. I usually have 2 cycles per year for 8 weeks. If I mess up and rebound, then I have an extra cycle a few weeks after the original one. It takes so long in this detective mode to learn what to do and how to change with the headaches as they "grow" and develop over time...but you already know. I am extremely sensitive to medications in general, so it was a challenge until my doctor could see it for himself. My daughter is a Pharmacist and she didn't believe me until she discovered she is the same way. The good side is that my drugs cost very little since everything is broken in fourths and halves. The bad news is getting people to believe you and being scared of overdose. I also start Nasonex (instead of predizone) when cycles start. I am going to experiment with Melatonin this time, too. Oops, gotta go for now.
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Title: Re: New to CH...but not to clusters! Post by arcticspirals on Aug 18th, 2009 at 3:19am
Welcome, glad you found this site, I have joined, left then lurked for years. By and by this is a very informative, and supportive place to be!
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Title: Re: New to CH...but not to clusters! Post by BarbaraD on Aug 18th, 2009 at 7:18am
Joni,
There have been GREAT improvements in O2 in the last couple of years. We've found that on HIGH flow rates it works much BETTER. I've used it for years (about 10-12) at 8-10 liters and it worked up to a point (along with trex), but a year ago I found out that with a demand valve and using it at a really high flow rate (40-60 liters per minute) I didn't need the other aborts. A few minutes on the O2 and no headache - no shadow - no rebound. I was AMAZED (and I'm an old broad who doesn't get amazed easily). I'm an O2 pusher BIG TIME and if you haven't tried it in a couple of years would suggest you read up on it and make a stab at it again - using it properly. (High flow rate with the RIGHT mask) For about 70% of us it works and that's why we push it so strongly. It's cheap, won't hurt you and it's just our abort of choice around here. We have a couple of O2 gurus around here that can explain how to use it properly (Pete and Chuck) - they had to explain it to me, but thank goodness they did. It's made a BIG difference to me. Your family sounds like it got dealt a real hand of cards. I think you win the prize for the most chers in one family. Don't think we've ever had more than two in any one family since I've been here (and I've been here since they moved the first load of dirt in). My family handed down migraines, but I'm the only one who was "lucky" enough to get CH. Hope you get relief soon.... Hugs BD :-* |
Title: Re: New to CH...but not to clusters! Post by Joni on Aug 19th, 2009 at 12:26pm
Thank you for responding, Barbara! As I have navigated through the site, I have noticed the particular directions of O2 use and I certainly didn't use it properly years ago (my doctor didn't know). It is comforting to know that is still an option. This board is wonderful! I just had a 24 hour pain free time and it was like I was reborn! Then last night, our air conditioner went out and boy did the clusters disapprove of that! I am waiting on pins and needles for the repairman to get here today. I almost went into a panic when I realized it didn't work, but I have made it better than I thought I would. Teaser headaches all night and this morning, so no sleep. Woohoo, the repairman is here! Later...
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