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Message started by mickey on Sep 28th, 2009 at 3:10pm

Title: O2 and bloody nose
Post by mickey on Sep 28th, 2009 at 3:10pm
I'm in full blown cycle now having 5 or 6 a day. I am Doing everything I can to limit myself to 1 shot of Imitrex a day and 1 can of monster energy drink. Any more Monster tears the stomach up. All the rest I am using O2 with a humidifer and rebreather mask. I am starting to get nose bleeds from using the O2 so much. Is this common ?

Title: Re: O2 and bloody nose
Post by Brew on Sep 28th, 2009 at 3:22pm
No, not common from what I can tell.

Breathe through your mouth. I use a mouthpiece instead of a mask and I've never had a problem with a bloody nose (18+ years on the stuff).

Title: Re: O2 and bloody nose
Post by Marc on Sep 28th, 2009 at 3:48pm
How long are you using O2 for each hit?

Marc

Title: Re: O2 and bloody nose
Post by TO2TKA on Sep 28th, 2009 at 3:59pm
Some years ago Barry (from Australia) measured the O2 humidity with bubbler. 43.1% with normal tube, 50% with bubbler stone. Quite normal humidity.
Blood pressure OK?

Title: Re: O2 and bloody nose
Post by mickey on Sep 28th, 2009 at 4:15pm
using O2 for around 7 to 10 mins most of the time with good results. There have been a few that I've used it 20 mins, On those rare occasions if it does get rid of it it is quick to come back and I have to use somthing else or ride it out. I guess using my mouth would be a good idea. I guess in my head I think if I breath through my nose it is closer to the point of pain. Kind of like when I take a shot. Pain's on the left so give the shot on the left.

Title: Re: O2 and bloody nose
Post by ClusterChuck on Sep 28th, 2009 at 4:17pm
I have heard of people having some problems with the nasal cavity when using oxygen, but it is usually with the nose canula.  BUT, you are using the right type of mask, so go with the mouth breathing, as Brew suggested.

Also, the oxygen should be your FIRST line of defense against the beast, not after the energy drink and/or an Imitrex shot.  Used properly, with a high enough flow rate, most users find they rarely have to resort to the Imitrex shot.

What flow rate are you getting your oxygen? 

Are you using one of the rebreather masks that the oxygen supplier gave you?  If so, get the O2PTImaskTM from the CH.com store.  It is FAR superior to the one they give you and it is the best you can get, AND less than 30 bucks!  You can click on the link, on the left margin of your screen, or go here: START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or RegisterEND PRINTPAGE

You will be amazed at what a difference that mask makes, with a HIGH flow rate of oxygen. 

Some people get great results at 8 to 12 LPM, but most need a higher rate.  Many of us have discovered the joys of using 25 to 60 LPM!  We can knock out a hit, in sometimes 3 or 4 minutes!

Good luck!

Chuck

Title: Re: O2 and bloody nose
Post by luketd on Oct 9th, 2009 at 7:35am
I started getting nose bleeds, initial i though it was oxygen related but i now get them even before i start using the o2. its not uncommon for this to be one of the first symptoms.
I have broken my nose quite a few times so the poor thing is a bit fragile but i dont really understand why i would suddenly start getting nosebleeds with CH.
Obviously its a bit distressing and yet another thing to deal with!  :-/

Title: Re: O2 and bloody nose
Post by Guiseppi on Oct 10th, 2009 at 10:47am
My guess is you have some blood vessels prone to nose bleeds anyways, and when your pulse and BP sky rocket during an attack, (common), they burst. (I am not a doctor and haven't even played one on TV so take that opnion for what it's worth!) ;)

But yeah, jump on the oxygen FIRST. 31 years with the beast it's still my first line and most effectibe abortive.

Joe

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