Has anyone here tried marijuana to see if it helps? I read that in California they prescribe marijuana for cluster headaches.

Pot is not good for CH.  It is a vasodilator.

Yep what she said.

                Potter

I tried it a couple of times during a cluster cycle in April of 2002, while I was fishing, I was a long ways away from town, had no rx's with me, and it sounded like a good idea. The only thing it helped was the throwing up cause I was in so much pain.  I don't recommend it for Cluster Headaches.

Angela

lcerbone wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2009 at 5:27pm:

Has anyone here tried marijuana to see if it helps? I read that in California they prescribe marijuana for cluster headaches.

Where did you read this? 

I, as the majority here, use oxygen at a high flow rate to abort a Clusterheadache. It is legal, reasonably priced and NO side effects.

Marijuana has been discussed on here many times, and nothing positive for treating CH's.
You will probably have a lot of responses on this subject.

  Barry

I have also heard that in CA you can get a script for MJ for athletes foot.  Just gotta find a MJ friendly Doc.

::)

lcerbone wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2009 at 5:27pm:

Has anyone here tried marijuana to see if it helps? I read that in California they prescribe marijuana for cluster headaches.

The way that deal works, they will probably prescribe it for a hangnail....lol...

Seriously though, there have been multiple year periods during my history of CH during which I used pot extensively and periods that I used none at all for multiple years and I didn't see any difference in the CH at all...

lcerbone wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2009 at 5:27pm:

Has anyone here tried marijuana to see if it helps?

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Seriously though, there have been multiple year periods during my history of CH during which I used pot extensively and periods that I used none at all for multiple years and I didn't see any difference in the CH at all...

You answered your own question.

I'll be honest, I moderately smoke pot out of cycle, but during cycle, it's like a detox for ganja and alcohol.  If you smoke pot or cigs during cycle, you're only pulling the trigger.  Don't smoke anything during cycle, period!!!!!!

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Don't smoke anything during cycle, period!!!!!!

Bwaaa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

That's pretty funny, my friend!

(You know you set yourself up for that from this crowd.)

As Brew said, that's awful funny.

Where pot has vasodilatory properties, nicotine is a vasoconstrictor. 

I wonder why cig smoke bothers me so much during a hit :-/?

Ya, know...there should really be a locked topic titled " Marijuana is BAD for CH." ;D

Jeannie

I can't smoke while I'm getting hit.

I can't NOT smoke after a hit.

Smoke pot during a ch and you may as well give the beast a sharp stick to stab you in the eye with. 

I can't stand to be around cig smoke or any other strong scents during a ch.  After a ch, I will light up a cig to celebrate surviving another round with the beast.

Beth

I don't know how anybody could smoke at all during cycle.  When I smoked cigs some 5 years ago, it was gauranteed that after that cig, a cluster was following.
I got smart and quit and as I have said a million times on other threads, the intensity, duration, frequency and cycle time as a whole was reduced.  When I smoked it was awful.  I'm not sure how anybody could smoke during a hit.  Makes me wonder, Mmmm....

midwestbeth wrote on Nov 24^th, 2009 at 12:43pm:

Smoke POT, CIGS OR CIGARS during a ch and you may as well give the beast a sharp stick to stab you in the eye with.  I can't stand to be around cig smoke or any other strong scents during a ch.  After a ch, I will light up a cig to celebrate surviving another round with the beast. Beth

There, fixed it for ya.

Chad wrote on Nov 24^th, 2009 at 12:58pm:

I don't know how anybody could smoke at all during cycle.  When I smoked cigs some 5 years ago, it was gauranteed that after that cig, a cluster was following. I got smart and quit and as I have said a million times on other threads, the intensity, duration, frequency and cycle time as a whole was reduced.  When I smoked it was awful.  I'm not sure how anybody could smoke during a hit.  Makes me wonder, Mmmm....

I guess you're just a wimp....

(I'm just kidding - I think all of us who do know that we'd be better off if we didn't)

Brew wrote on Nov 24^th, 2009 at 1:14pm:

I guess you're just a wimp.... (I'm just kidding - I think all of us who do know that we'd be better off if we didn't)

LOL! 

I couldn't believe how different the HA's were after quitting.

I grew up in a home where everyone smoked.  My parents and my older siblings.   I started smoking as a teen and young adult untill I moved into my own home.  I've seen no difference in my CH since quitting.

Jeannie

Chad wrote on Nov 24^th, 2009 at 2:17pm:

Brew wrote on Nov 24th, 2009 at 1:14pm: I guess you're just a wimp.... (I'm just kidding - I think all of us who do know that we'd be better off if we didn't) LOL!  I couldn't believe how different the HA's were after quitting.

No difference one way or the other here.

I started ch's in 1992, I started smoking in 1996, I stopped smoking during my cycle of 2005.  For some reason, the slightest hint of smoke or booze or anything was a trigger, also this was the first cycle I learned that I might have CH. I managed to be done smoking and drinking for 3 months after cycle.  (I don't like to use the word quit - quitting is for quitters).  Unfortunately, I picked both back up again.
I didn't notice a difference.

Well, everybody is different, right?  If I'm around by-stander smoke, CH will trigger.  Kind of like after having a glass of wine or a beer. 

One thing is for sure.  Quitting cigs certainly didn't cure it ;)

I smoke fairly regularly.  but that doesn't mean it helps clusters at all. actually, during a hit, there's no way I could imagine smoking.

sometimes after a hit I will, for releif of living through the ordeal or to help nap afterwards (or for fun)

Chad wrote on Nov 24^th, 2009 at 3:20pm:

Well, everybody is different, right?  If I'm around by-stander smoke, CH will trigger.  Kind of like after having a glass of wine or a beer.  One thing is for sure.  Quitting cigs certainly didn't cure it ;)

I'm glad that quitting helped some with your HA's, Chad! :)  I wish it would have cured it for you.


Hey Racer, why is that cat beatin' up that chicken?

Thanks Jeannie!

I do remember when I did smoke, like others said, it was a victory smoke after making it through a round with the beast.

Redd wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2009 at 6:38pm:

I have also heard that in CA you can get a script for MJ for athletes foot.  Just gotta find a MJ friendly Doc. ::)

Now I like a good foot massage like anyone else but I wont do athletes foot feet no matter how friendly the doc

MJ                        8-)

MJ wrote on Nov 25^th, 2009 at 12:47am:

Redd wrote on Nov 23rd, 2009 at 6:38pm: I have also heard that in CA you can get a script for MJ for athletes foot.  Just gotta find a MJ friendly Doc. ::) Now I like a good foot massage like anyone else but I wont do athletes foot feet no matter how friendly the doc MJ                        8-)

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Nicely done!

Jeannie wrote on Nov 24^th, 2009 at 3:36pm:

Hey Racer, why is that cat beatin' up that chicken?

Actually the chicken is charging the cat....hard to see in avatar size. I thought it funny that cat appeared to be scared of the chicken.

Here is it in full size.....
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I don't recommend smoking as a treatment, of course, but during attacks, I walk back and forth, smoke and, if there are no foreigners around, swear like a madman. This is the only thing that helps me maintain some level of sanity until it's over.

Hey Racer, have you seen my moose?  I think he might have learned some new tricks from your goat....

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I was going to try pot, but I'm afraid of needles.

Chris

angela.lambert wrote on Nov 25^th, 2009 at 3:23pm:

Hey Racer, have you seen my moose?  I think he might have learned some new tricks from your goat.... http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/poormoose.asp PS: haven't figured how to post a pic yet...

Ya mean this one?
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Seems to be going around these days...... 

Chris - I see that someone returned your red Swingline stapler.

Brew wrote on Nov 26^th, 2009 at 9:29am:

Chris - I see that someone returned your red Swingline stapler.

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I've already had a headache induced by smoking that stuff. Definitely not recommended.

Seriously guys, my cheeks hurt from laughin so hard. What a group of people on here! Who needs pot? Just come here if you wanna giggle like a school girl. Seriously though, I have been puffin the ganja for 13 years now. Not much of a drinker, so it's just my thing. The only reason I so freely admit my love for it is to say it is my WORST enemy during a cycle.  Further, for the first time as of this cycle, I can't even be in the same room when it's lit up. I also smoke cigarettes though. No effect good or bad on that end.  I'll be back for you when I can my friend. Until then, stay the hell away from me and my o2.

Chad wrote on Nov 24^th, 2009 at 12:58pm:

I don't know how anybody could smoke at all during cycle.  When I smoked cigs some 5 years ago, it was gauranteed that after that cig, a cluster was following. I got smart and quit and as I have said a million times on other threads, the intensity, duration, frequency and cycle time as a whole was reduced.  When I smoked it was awful.  I'm not sure how anybody could smoke during a hit.  Makes me wonder, Mmmm....

I'm with Chad.  2nd hand smoke will trigger me.  I can't be around it at all. 

Never tried pot..cant stand it outta cycle..makes me sick. i dont even like to think of puking while getting hit.  i do smoke ciggys though, and yep i smoke like a chimney during a hit, because im convinced it does help me (no im not on O2 yet)

Lacey wrote on Dec 16^th, 2009 at 1:59pm:

Never tried pot..cant stand it outta cycle..makes me sick. i dont even like to think of puking while getting hit.  i do smoke ciggys though, and yep i smoke like a chimney during a hit, because im convinced it does help me (no im not on O2 yet)

Try reducing your smoking while in cycle.  Maybe you'll get some relief.

Redd wrote on Nov 24^th, 2009 at 11:42am:

As Brew said, that's awful funny. Where pot has vasodilatory properties, nicotine is a vasoconstrictor.

If pot is vasodilatory like the verapamil that I'm currently using very effectively, then I can see it possibly helping. Altough I agree smoking is out of the question, but pot is much more effective if you eat it as apposed to smoking anyway.

Has anyone tried pot brownies as a solution? If not I'll volunteer for the experiment.  :D

Cluster Attacks Responsive to Recreational Cannabis and Dronabinol

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3-foot wrote on Dec 17^th, 2009 at 12:09pm:

If pot is vasodilatory like the verapamil that I'm currently using very effectively, then I can see it possibly helping.

That's the big problem with all the vasolidation / vasoconstriction talk.
Nobody so far has proved that the vasoconstriction / vasolidation effects of meds / triggers / ... are really the cause.
There are even papers out there that suggest that the whole vaso thing has nothing to do with CH (some of them available at Dr. Sewell's blog).

3-foot wrote on Dec 17^th, 2009 at 12:09pm:

Redd wrote on Nov 24th, 2009 at 11:42am: As Brew said, that's awful funny. Where pot has vasodilatory properties, nicotine is a vasoconstrictor.  If pot is vasodilatory like the verapamil that I'm currently using very effectively, then I can see it possibly helping. Altough I agree smoking is out of the question, but pot is much more effective if you eat it as apposed to smoking anyway. Has anyone tried pot brownies as a solution? If not I'll volunteer for the experiment.  :D

be our guest, and don't let us stop you. This way you can report back...... if you live....  ;D