Three years ago, for those who remember, I went cold turkey on all my meds. The imitrex, verapamil and ergot.

The Clusterbusters guided me through the alternative therapies and kept in touch to address the different dosages.

My clusters increased on the alternative therapy, I had Kip 8 to 10's sometimes 6 to 12 times a day.  The thing is, these buddies stuck by me and then after I thought that there is no hope anymore, a BREAKTHROUGH!

A few weeks of hell and suddenly after the last scary LSD dosage and a trip to the other side of midnight, that felt like it would last for ever, the Demon left!

I was scared sh*tless because:
Did it work?
Did my cycle just end naturally?
When will it come back?
May I sleep?
Can I say anything about it yet?

So, I waited and waited and waited.  Two years passed, I came back to the site.  Cryptically I explained.

I have waited another year, just to confirm.  My clusters are gone, after all those years of no hope, of no life, of constant battles, fear and pain and tons of medication, I am alive!

I don't care anymore.  They can lock me up for all I care, actually admitting this on a public forum but alternative treatments should become legal.  Yes, under a doctors supervision.  This will prevent us from acting like criminals to get help and allow those who want to try it to go through the experience in a controlled environment.

The day we can get booked in hospital, get the bloody treatment and go home like with any other disease, would be a victory in my book.

There is hope. 

Cheers Jazz

Hi, Jasmyn - Welcome back. And congratulations. What a feeling.

Dr. Halpern is currently working on a compound called 2-Bromo LSD (or BOL). It is LSD with a bromine atom attached that renders it non-hallucinogenic but still does the same thing you describe. I hope and pray it (and he) will be our guiding light out of the woods. Since it is non-hallucinogenic, we're all hoping it will be on the fast track to FDA approval.

Jas,

Glad to hear your back to your life, And i dont think the MAN wants to mess with us. See then it would be up to them to flip the bill for all the meds (lol). And im not sure if they sell Imetrex at the prison commasary.

                  Here's to the other side...

                                               Coach Bill

Great news!  Thanx so much for passing it along.  It gives the rest of us hope.  Really hoping Dr Halpern is able to get things fast tracked and funded.

Jerry

Thanks Jasmyn.   I can relate to your story.  I am in month 5 of my cycle, and have never had more than 3 months cycle before....
   I am with seeds in hand, and have not dared to take the leap of faith, and wean myself off the meds.
   You give me some hope and strength. :)

Seeds even in number 100 taken at once, wouldn't create hallucinations, only you would feel nauseous.

MattyAA wrote on Dec 1^st, 2009 at 10:23am:

Seeds even in number 100 taken at once, wouldn't create hallucinations, only you would feel nauseous.

The point I was trying to make is that a non-hallucinogenic form would have a much higher chance of being approved by the FDA (Food and Drug Administration). That's how drugs become available via prescription over here - they have to be FDA-approved first.

MattyAA wrote on Dec 1^st, 2009 at 10:23am:

Seeds even in number 100 taken at once, wouldn't create hallucinations, only you would feel nauseous.

I tend to disagree......take enough of them and you'll feel something other than sick.

Racer1_NC wrote on Dec 1^st, 2009 at 1:39pm:

I tend to disagree......take enough of them and you'll feel something other than sick.

Everybody and every batch is different.  I've taken 30 and felt a slight body buzz and at another time took 80 and felt nothing, but nauseous.   I've never ever tripped from them.  Shrooms on the other hand, heck yeah, but that was recreationally years ago.

I am no specialist but what is average containing of LSA in each seed? And what part of one average shroom is it in potency scale? This way you can do average calculation, but probably seed potency has wide range of LSA, can be none, or can be really a lot average of normal 5 seeds.

Jasmyn, so happy you have been PF this long. I really hope it was the LSD that ended your pain. This is something I am interested in trying someday.
I did LSD back when I was, well, let's say much younger, and wonder now if it kept the CH's from nailing me at a younger age as I was in my early forties before I got CH's. :-?
Just a thought.
PF wishes forever Jasmyn!

With all the posts regarding LSD, shrooms, and RC seeds, I'm wondering about the lack of posts of peoples experience using baby wood rose seeds.  I can recall several trips using ground up and capped HBWR seeds in the early 70's that rivaled LSD so I assume they must contain a significant amount of LSA like RC seeds and I know that they are also offered on iamshaman.

Dallas Denny

Not to sidetrack Jazz's post any further, but.......

Denny - HBWR seeds were too much work for me. The LSA is in the seed pod inside and the stuff that makes you feel sick is the outer hull. I used to slice them open and pry out the center nut.

With RC Seeds, I just grind, soak and drink the sludge.

FWIW - I've tried up to 20 HBWR seeds and well over 100 RC's and never felt anything but a bit sleepy.

Marc

Thanks guys for the well wishes.

The thing is, as you remember and for those who don't know me, I lived in Mozambique, Africa at the time.

It is easier to experiment and get "stuff" in a third world country.

I was actually on LSD from the Netherlands(the purest stuff) and overdosed on the last trip (If you can ever overdose on LSD!?)

The thing is that I was not a responsible adult due to the extreme hits I got.  Actually I was quite out of my mind with pain and desperation that night.

btw.  I am mostly out of my mind but that is besides the point.  LOL

The contributing factor was that I had nearly a bottle of clean Vodka on top of that trip.

I do not condone my actions but I need to explain:

I cannot drink a drop of alcohol during a cycle.
I am not a drug addict as I love to be in control.
I hated the trips because I couldn't make them stop, they had to run their course.
This is scary if you are doing this alone.
You cannot get hooked on LSD, as I used it for a few weeks and have never done it again, and I have an addictive personality as I cannot stop smoking after many attempts.  But I never had a craving for it since.

The whole argument is, even if it is LSA or LSD, it should be legal and supervised.  I believe every person with clusters will need different dosages to alter the brain chemistry to halt this disease.


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Posted by: Brew      Posted on: Nov 30th, 2009 at 9:57am Hi, Jasmyn - Welcome back. And congratulations. What a feeling. Dr. Halpern is currently working on a compound called 2-Bromo LSD (or BOL). It is LSD with a bromine atom attached that renders it non-hallucinogenic but still does the same thing you describe. I hope and pray it (and he) will be our guiding light out of the woods. Since it is non-hallucinogenic, we're all hoping it will be on the fast track to FDA approval.

Thanks this might just be our answer.

Jazz ;)

I was late teens, early 20's when I was doing Mushrooms, LSD and pot for recreational use. It was fairly plentiful and of good quality and it was what our group of friends were into. I am 50 now.
I never had a headache in my life of any kind until I got into my 30's then I developed migraines, "the pulse till you puke headache" I called them.
Then when I got into my early 40's the migraines just left and then a new pain surfaced, which my neuro diagnosed them being CH's.
I am just wondering if the Mushrooms and LSD altered my CH cycle when I was younger? I was able to track down some s'rooms last summer and did 3 separate doses and although the shadows are daily and some entering low level hits I still am not in cycle and this is past my time, I should be getting labeled right now.
I really have faith that there is a drug of some kind that will stop the cycle, maybe for good and maybe the 2-Bromo LSD might just be the ticket.
Anybody else with a similar experience? Jasmyn's story on her success sure has my attention right now and wishing her and everyone PF wishes forever.
   Barry

Congrats, Jasmyn, a wonderful story you have there - one which in my opinion should help keep us all chanting BOL! BOL! BOL!

The CH killing benefits of LSD without the tripping? I'll take it.  8-)

Also in case you missed this, National Geographic did a show on LSD. Here is the link to the preview.

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Great Stuff, THANKS!

wahayyyy Jazz wtg!!!!!!!
luv ya loads
zany

What wonderful news, Jazz!  Thank you for sharing your story!  I am in the process of trying RC seeds for the first time.  My third dose will be tonight.  Your and others' stories of success continue to give me hope and courage.


May you continue to be PF!

Jeannie

Jeannie, I really pray the seeds work for you. PF wishes heading your way!

Jeannie wrote on Dec 4^th, 2009 at 10:04am:

What wonderful news, Jazz!  Thank you for sharing your story!  I am in the process of trying RC seeds for the first time.  My third dose will be tonight.  Your and others' stories of success continue to give me hope and courage. May you continue to be PF! Jeannie

Best of luck Jeannie!

Also, thanks for reminding me.  I haven't dosed in about 2 months and i'm due for a maintenance dose.
I guess i'll crush up my usual 25-30 when I get home and start soaking. 

Have a great weekend :)

Thanks Barry and Chad.    [smiley=hug.gif] [smiley=hug.gif]

Jeannie

Very cool Jazz.

Living life is wonderful. A clear mind free of CH just makes it even better.

Hey Jasmyn I am curious did you experienced no breakthrough hits or episodes after you treated yourself with LSD?

Hello everyone.  CH's for 25 years, I seem to be having good luck with the psilocybin therapy I have been on for over a year now.  Only one headache and it was my inattention that caused it.  But, my real point is the last place I would want to be is in a hospital under scientific observation during LSD or Mushroom therapy.  I never did drugs as a teenager and only started in my forties as a response to my CH's.  Come to find out all of my friends have done some pretty heavy trippin' 'back in the day' at various jam band concerts or the beach or whatever.  It has been my recent experience, after reading every website and book I could find on the subject, that mushrooms can be a great experience, way beyond just medicine.  Initially all I cared about was the medicine and that is still my primary concern, but as long as you are experiencing the world with a different perspective, why not enjoy the ride.  Find a nice place to do it, be careful with the dose and have a babysitter or watcher to make sure you are safe for the hours of experience. 

Like I said, I would never have tried them if I didn't have CH's. and I have not done LSD and don't intend to unless needed which I don't think I will.  There are many books on the medicinal and shamanic uses of phsycoactive plants in indigenous cultures which are very interesting too.  I am super careful and my guess is that there are people you may know that could help you safely experiment with these plants to see if they could work. 

I am definitely NOT recommending this to the general public.  But for the people (us) who spend their nights in cold showers, squeezing their heads, sucking oxygen, taking prescription meds.... pshycoactive plants/fungi seem easier, if they work for you.  Good luck!

--shaggy

p.s. in my anecdotal research i seem to be the only one i know who didn't take mushrooms in high school :( .

I tried the Morning glory seeds first and felt nothing at all, then I ordered the wood rose seeds and I am not sure if I did it wrong or what but I have never been sicker and at one point actually thought I might die but then got very sick and finally started to feel better, I will never do that again for sure not saying you shouldn’t but be careful and be sure to know what you are doing and do it right. I did try shrooms and it seemed to help but I was only able to find enough for one dose and have yet to be able to find more but would try it again. I think if you can find LSD it would probably be the best way to go but again no idea how to find it, wish I did because I would try it in a heartbeat.

BigMatt wrote on Jan 15^th, 2010 at 12:07pm:

I tried the Morning glory seeds first and felt nothing at all, then I ordered the wood rose seeds and I am not sure if I did it wrong or what but I have never been sicker and at one point actually thought I might die but then got very sick and finally started to feel better, I will never do that again for sure not saying you shouldn’t but be careful and be sure to know what you are doing and do it right. I did try shrooms and it seemed to help but I was only able to find enough for one dose and have yet to be able to find more but would try it again. I think if you can find LSD it would probably be the best way to go but again no idea how to find it, wish I did because I would try it in a heartbeat.

The tusk on HWR is nasty and makes everybody feel sick.  You're suppose to open and use the pulp inside.  I only use rc seeds.  You feel nothing and they work.  That's the point.  Why feel an acid trip unless you want to feel that?  Those Morning Glories probably are fine.  The goal for me is to get the effect of how LSA works against the CH.  Without having that acid buzz, it's great.  I can't handle trips anymore like I did in college.  Someday the Bromo-LSD will be available.

barry_sword wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2009 at 6:51am:

I was late teens, early 20's when I was doing Mushrooms, LSD and pot for recreational use. It was fairly plentiful and of good quality and it was what our group of friends were into. I am 50 now. I never had a headache in my life of any kind until I got into my 30's then I developed migraines, "the pulse till you puke headache" I called them. Then when I got into my early 40's the migraines just left and then a new pain surfaced, which my neuro diagnosed them being CH's. I am just wondering if the Mushrooms and LSD altered my CH cycle when I was younger? I was able to track down some s'rooms last summer and did 3 separate doses and although the shadows are daily and some entering low level hits I still am not in cycle and this is past my time, I should be getting labeled right now. I really have faith that there is a drug of some kind that will stop the cycle, maybe for good and maybe the 2-Bromo LSD might just be the ticket. Anybody else with a similar experience? Jasmyn's story on her success sure has my attention right now and wishing her and everyone PF wishes forever.    Barry

Hey Barry, I had some similar experiences.  I used to get migraines every now and then starting when I was a young kid.  When I was in my teens I did quite a bit of LSD (among other things).  I do remember once getting a "migraine" while on an acid trip, but if I did get them back then they were always one-offs.  I stopped doing all drugs and drinking when I was 17 and got my first CH cycle about a year later.  Been getting hit with a cycle every 24 month or so since then.

Right now I manage my cycles with a combination of prednisone, verapamil, O2, and Trex.  Interestingly, when I was first officially diagnosed while in college the Dr prescribed Sansert (which I used as my preventative for about 15 years) and I would always notice the feeling of a mild "trip" during the first day or so of taking it.  I'm not especially anxious to dose or use seeds, but have to admit that the success stories are quite compelling. 

Anyway, just wanted to offer some more anecdotal evidence that LSD might have altered or delayed my cycles starting when I was a teenager.