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Message started by rich72 on Dec 14th, 2009 at 12:34pm

Title: hello sorry to bother you all im very scared
Post by rich72 on Dec 14th, 2009 at 12:34pm
hi Rich here im very scared about seeing manjit matharu in london on wednesday he left me in pain last year turned me away for 8 weeks ended up i had to get a friend to go back with me to lay it on the line but i cant get anyone to go with me this time even though ive got money to pay for there travel wat should i do? :'(

Title: Re: hello sorry to bother you all im very scared
Post by Brew on Dec 14th, 2009 at 1:07pm
Pretty simple: find another doctor.

First and foremost, doctors are supposed to do no harm. It's part of their oath.

Title: Re: hello sorry to bother you all im very scared
Post by rich72 on Dec 14th, 2009 at 1:12pm
i see wat your saying but how do i get a gon block done that i so deperatly need ive been getting 6 attacks per day since october

Title: Re: hello sorry to bother you all im very scared
Post by Bob_Johnson on Dec 14th, 2009 at 1:42pm
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Headache group of some repute there.
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Message: "Dyno", Tenby, Wales, UK, Aug 9, '09:
[Bob-excludes Wales per Dyno]
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Why not ask to see the top man in the country - Dr. Manjit Matharu at UCL. Under Patient Choice - look at the link below - you have the right to choose who you see.

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and this - copied from the OUCH(UK) website

Quote:

You can ask your GP to refer you to one of our hospitals for treatment
Central to the government’s healthcare policy is that patients should be given the opportunity to be more involved in making decisions about their healthcare. If you and your GP agree that you need to be referred to see a specialist, then you have a choice of at least four local hospitals or clinics. Since May 2006, that choice has been extended. You can now also choose to go to any Foundation Trust in the country, including UCLH. Whether you’re from Cornwall or Camden, as a patient you now have the right to choose UCLH. You can ask your GP to refer you to one of our hospitals for treatment.

[Source: UCL website]
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City of London Migraine Clinic [and other types]  START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or RegisterEND PRINTPAGE

Title: Re: hello sorry to bother you all im very scared
Post by rich72 on Dec 14th, 2009 at 1:50pm
i am seeing dr manjit matharu on wednesday thats the problem!please look at my original post i dont have migraines i was diagonosed and under the the care or proff peter goadsby 4 4 years as chronic cluster headache

Title: Re: hello sorry to bother you all im very scared
Post by rich72 on Dec 14th, 2009 at 1:53pm
oh and as for ouch i dont have to money to become a member i get 50pounds uk sterling per week and of course i have to pay rent food e.c.t

Title: Re: hello sorry to bother you all im very scared
Post by Brew on Dec 14th, 2009 at 2:00pm
I got nothing else for you, brother. Either find a doctor that doesn't scare the living shit out of you or maybe ask him for some valium to take an hour or so before you go in.

Title: Re: hello sorry to bother you all im very scared
Post by Kevin_M on Dec 14th, 2009 at 5:22pm

rich72 wrote on Dec 14th, 2009 at 1:50pm:
i dont have migraines


Firstly to mention, I don't think there is any insinuation of you having migraines.  How would anyone know from your few posts this thread describing no symptoms.

The links posted by Bob have the word migraine attached to clinic, the first sentence from the site says: The City of London Migraine Clinic is a research centre and outpatient service for people with migraine and other headaches.

Personally, I was glad to find a hospital extension nearby called, Chronic Headache and Migraine Institute, where I received improved treatment for clusters, which was not a long-suit there but straight forward and knowledgeable about them.  I certainly wasn't their first cluster patient.  Helpful preventatives and abortives were prescribed without question.   


Clustered secondly,


rich72 wrote on Dec 14th, 2009 at 12:34pm:
wat should i do?


This is asked, but much seems without the depth to grasp.


rich72 wrote on Dec 14th, 2009 at 12:34pm:
hi Rich here im very scared about seeing manjit matharu


rich72 wrote on Dec 14th, 2009 at 12:34pm:
turned me away for 8 weeks


rich72 wrote on Dec 14th, 2009 at 1:12pm:
how do i get a gon block done that i so deperatly need


rich72 wrote on Dec 14th, 2009 at 12:34pm:
lay it on the line


rich72 wrote on Dec 14th, 2009 at 12:34pm:
i cant get anyone to go with me


Why scared about seeing him?  Why turned away?  What has entailed concluding a block? What does "lay it on the line" mean?  Why a friend to go with you. 


Explain nothing if you wish, but results in difficulty answering anything.

Title: Re: hello sorry to bother you all im very scared
Post by Mac_Muz on Dec 14th, 2009 at 8:15pm
To Americans you are speaking a different language... Mostly I have no idea what you mean.

Do you have 02? Since Oct I have been getting hits 3 times a day. I don't like it much, but then I am as stuck as you are.

We don't get socialized medicines, or anything a month as I assume you are some how disabled. Just sayin..

I am curious too about the other questions.. Why fear a doctor?

Title: Re: hello sorry to bother you all im very scared
Post by Marc on Dec 14th, 2009 at 8:40pm
Rich,

As I see the situation:

- Matharu is well known/regarded as a CH advocate. (I'm in the USA but I have spoken with him)
- You seem to be fixated on the block.
- If he doesn't feel that you should have it right now, you have no choice. Work with him to find another plan
- Don't accept 8 weeks for a follow up if you need it sooner
- The man knows what he is doing - why the extreme fear?

Marc

Title: Re: hello sorry to bother you all im very scared
Post by Happywoman on Dec 15th, 2009 at 3:44pm
You can't necessarily provide a justification for fear.  If the guy is scared, he's scared - there doesn't have to be a reason for it that anyone else can understand. Bad enough to be scared without being asked to explain it.
Maybe the doctor concerned has an unfortunate manner. Maybe he's high-handed and dismissive.  Maybe this, maybe that.   The point is, there's obviously a personality clash between doctor and patient, and where there's fear there can't be trust.
So I think the thing to do is find a different doctor. The migraine clinic sounds like a sensible option, specially if you print up a few info sheets from this site and take them along when you go.
Good luck.
HW

Title: Re: hello sorry to bother you all im very scared
Post by MJ on Dec 15th, 2009 at 11:29pm
Why a block as there are many other potentially usefull and less invasive medications.
Perhaps the good doctor has something more promising for you Rich.
One kiss dont make a marriage.

There are many other docs in this world and to get good care you must care for the doctor as well.
Your comfort should be first and if this doc no matter how technically able doesnt provide it, find another.


Title: Re: hello sorry to bother you all im very scared
Post by LeLimey on Dec 16th, 2009 at 1:19pm

rich72 wrote on Dec 14th, 2009 at 12:34pm:
hi Rich here im very scared about seeing manjit matharu in london on wednesday he left me in pain last year turned me away for 8 weeks ended up i had to get a friend to go back with me to lay it on the line but i cant get anyone to go with me this time even though ive got money to pay for there travel wat should i do? :'(



rich72 wrote on Dec 14th, 2009 at 1:53pm:
oh and as for ouch i dont have to money to become a member i get 50pounds uk sterling per week and of course i have to pay rent food e.c.t



I know Manjit Matharu.
I have seen him work through lunch hours and until 8pm at night and later to help ch'ers.
I KNOW OUCH UK will still help you even if you can't afford to pay the membership fee.

I have watched you make post after post disparaging Dr Matharu and it's unfair and uncalled for.

I am quite certain, if there is anything in your allegations at all, that there is a HELL of a lot more than you are telling us.

You've moved out of the area to another health authority half way across the country and yet they have moved heaven and earth to find an appointment for you.
An appointment that I will add is taking time from someone who DOES live in that catchment area.

They've fitted you in, with less than a weeks notice, at the busiest hospital for neurology in the country with the now leading man in the UK for headache.

Tell me again where you're so hard done by??

Title: Re: hello sorry to bother you all im very scared
Post by rich72 on Dec 28th, 2009 at 11:50am
i do live in manjits catchment area anyone in the country regardless of where they live uk odviously are in his area did you not know that?

Title: Re: hello sorry to bother you all im very scared
Post by vietvet2tours on Dec 28th, 2009 at 12:14pm
Bit pissy today?

         Potter

Title: Re: hello sorry to bother you all im very scared
Post by deltadarlin on Dec 28th, 2009 at 12:33pm
Aren't Professor Goadsby and Dr. Manjit Matharu workding associates?  Don't they both work for the Institute of Neurology?

I find it difficult to believe that one physician would not follow another physicians proscribed treatment if it actually works.

Title: Re: hello sorry to bother you all im very scared
Post by rich72 on Dec 28th, 2009 at 12:39pm
exactly so do!esspeccialli as peter j goadsby is the leading neuro

Title: Re: hello sorry to bother you all im very scared
Post by deltadarlin on Dec 28th, 2009 at 12:52pm
Then, what you're saying doesn't make a bit of sense.

Title: Re: hello sorry to bother you all im very scared
Post by vietvet2tours on Dec 28th, 2009 at 12:54pm

rich72 wrote on Dec 28th, 2009 at 12:39pm:
exactly so do!esspeccialli as peter j goadsby is the leading neuro

WTF is that?  That ain't the Queens English.

             Potter

Title: Re: hello sorry to bother you all im very scared
Post by Kevin_M on Dec 28th, 2009 at 1:07pm

rich72 wrote on Dec 14th, 2009 at 1:50pm:
i am seeing dr manjit matharu on wednesday ...


And so, that was December 16th.  Anything concerning clusters or is this a suspenseful drama?   

Title: Re: hello sorry to bother you all im very scared
Post by seaworthy on Dec 28th, 2009 at 7:52pm
theres something veewwwy veeewwyyy scwewy about this thread.

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