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Message started by Anchor Yanker on Dec 21st, 2009 at 7:13am

Title: CH's connection to ear/balance problems?
Post by Anchor Yanker on Dec 21st, 2009 at 7:13am
Wanted to ask this question to the Clusterheads:

Do any of you, or an abnormal percentage of you, have hearing or balance problems?  Is this something that could be connected to clusters?

I've had the clusters since I was 18.  When I was about 28, my left ear blew up.  Horrible attack one night about kip 7-8.  When it was over, I'd lost about 40% of my hearing.  In the succeeding 10 years, I lost the rest of it, and gained a healthy dose of tinnitis.  Recently, I've had a couple of spells, possibly related to an inner ear virus exacerbated by snorkling and diving, where my balance has gone completely wacky and made me violently motion sick. 

I have no evidence that my ear problems are related to my headache problems, but I thought I'd ask the question- anybody here having similar problems?

Title: Re: CH's connection to ear/balance problems?
Post by Mac_Muz on Dec 21st, 2009 at 4:56pm
Not really in my case, but my hearing high notes is gone. To much rock m roll, too many hard walls working with impact tools as a mechanic, and I shoot guns.

Oddly in some, but no all CH seasons my hearing can get a bit better. My sence of smell can be enhanced too.

In Ch season I can be tippy on my feet which isn't my normal, so I feel a slight effect like you.

In this ch season my right ear seems to feel as if water is trapped, like what happens if you are swimming alot under water.

I have no idea if this is from the CH. So I am not saying it is, or it isn't, and relating a few observations only.

99% of the time my ch is on the right, and by the looks of your post your's are on the left.

Title: Re: CH's connection to ear/balance problems?
Post by Redd on Dec 21st, 2009 at 5:55pm
Have you checked into Ménière's disease?

It sounds more as though you have 2 seperate issues going on here.

Check it out.  You may get better results with your ear/balance issues.

Title: Re: CH's connection to ear/balance problems?
Post by Rivkid73 on Dec 21st, 2009 at 8:01pm

Mac_Muz wrote on Dec 21st, 2009 at 4:56pm:
In this ch season my right ear seems to feel as if water is trapped, like what happens if you are swimming alot under water.


I get that a lot when in cycle...but I also get it when not in cycle, just not as much. But when I was a kid I got swimmer's ear once-bleeding and all-which I put most of my ear problems on. But it seems as though the CH brings it out a bit more than usual.

Only times I've really had any balance problems was after an imitrex at first....just a little light headedness for a few seconds...

Title: Re: CH's connection to ear/balance problems?
Post by Anchor Yanker on Dec 21st, 2009 at 9:42pm
No, Mac, my clusters are on the right.  My ear problems are on the left.  I have checked into Meneire's, and was worried about that for awhile, after the horrible motion sickness episode.  But that was about 5 months ago and there have been no further attacks like that.  Am hoping it was a one time thing, maybe a virus or bacteria in my inner ear from swimming and diving in a river. 

Title: Re: CH's connection to ear/balance problems?
Post by Mac_Muz on Dec 22nd, 2009 at 6:19pm
Anchor Yanker , No doctor here, but i susp[ect the leftside ear thing, has nothing to do with the rightside CH thing..

That doesn't mean symptoms can't happen .. but it means I know nothing that can help you, other than o2 for the ch.

In NH it is way to cold in Fall /Winter to even think about swimming, but I don't think I would, when my season is on.. Not very deep anyway. 14 feet is about 1 atmosphere more pressure, and I don't think it would be a good idea to get even that deep.

I am guessing these 'swims' were in another time, but then there is pools sometimes that deep.

Title: Re: CH's connection to ear/balance problems?
Post by monty on Dec 22nd, 2009 at 8:49pm
Tinnitus seems to be rather common here, and some types of tinnitus are linked to the serotonin-2 receptors. Kudzu was traditionally used to treat it in China and Japan.  Also, lots of people tend to clench their jaws and grind their teeth when in cycle, which can cause problems with the muscles and blood vessels around the ear.

Title: Re: CH's connection to ear/balance problems?
Post by Emma_s on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 11:41am
I have had ringing in my ear on and off since my cycle started at various frequencies and I find this gets worse when I have bad shadows.

The ringing only lasts about 30 mins to a couple of hours and then goes. I don't know if this is because of my CH but then I have only had this since my cycle began in July.




Title: Re: CH's connection to ear/balance problems?
Post by Brew on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 12:20pm

Redd wrote on Dec 21st, 2009 at 5:55pm:
Have you checked into Ménière's disease?

Not to be confused with "Mein Ear's" disease. As in, "Ach! Mein Ear!" Which also hurts a great deal, I imagine.

Title: Re: CH's connection to ear/balance problems?
Post by Marc on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 12:39pm

Brew wrote on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 12:20pm:

Redd wrote on Dec 21st, 2009 at 5:55pm:
Have you checked into Ménière's disease?

Not to be confused with "Mein Ear's" disease. As in, "Ach! Mein Ear!" Which also hurts a great deal, I imagine.


;D

Title: Re: CH's connection to ear/balance problems?
Post by Redd on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 1:11pm

Marc wrote on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 12:39pm:

Brew wrote on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 12:20pm:

Redd wrote on Dec 21st, 2009 at 5:55pm:
Have you checked into Ménière's disease?

Not to be confused with "Mein Ear's" disease. As in, "Ach! Mein Ear!" Which also hurts a great deal, I imagine.


;D



:P :D

Title: Re: CH's connection to ear/balance problems?
Post by Anchor Yanker on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 9:10pm
Brew, that was the funniest joke ever about Meniere's Disease.   You should be on the stage!  There's one leaving in ten minutes.   ;D


Title: Re: CH's connection to ear/balance problems?
Post by Brew on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 9:18pm
Hey, I'll be here all week. Don't forget your waitresses and bartenders. And, hey, try the veal.

Title: Re: CH's connection to ear/balance problems?
Post by vietvet2tours on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 10:47pm

Anchor Yanker wrote on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 9:10pm:
Brew, that was the funniest joke ever about Meniere's Disease.   You should be on the stage!  There's one leaving in ten minutes.   ;D

   It's the second funniest joke I've ever heard about Meniere's Disease.

               Potter

Title: Re: CH's connection to ear/balance problems?
Post by Anchor Yanker on Dec 24th, 2009 at 7:43am
Well, it got un-funny again last night.  I had another spell.  Woke up at midnight and the world was spinning out of control.  I couldn't lift my head off the pillow without barfing for 3 hours.  I gotta get this figured out.  Looking up ear-nose-throat docs today.

As for the connection to headaches, I'm still between clusters, though I have had a few little shadows following me.  I think I'm dealing with two separate issues. 

Title: Re: CH's connection to ear/balance problems?
Post by Redd on Dec 24th, 2009 at 10:57am
The vertigo spells are intermittent to begin, and get worse as the disease progresses.

Yes, I'd say get thee to an ENT for a Ménière's workup.


Title: Re: CH's connection to ear/balance problems?
Post by monty on Dec 25th, 2009 at 5:36pm

Anchor Yanker wrote on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 9:10pm:
Brew, that was the funniest joke ever about Meniere's Disease.   You should be on the stage!  There's one leaving in ten minutes.   ;D


Yeah, but that's the only one I've ever heard about Meniere's disease.   ;)

Title: Re: CH's connection to ear/balance problems?
Post by Brew on Dec 25th, 2009 at 7:34pm

monty wrote on Dec 25th, 2009 at 5:36pm:

Anchor Yanker wrote on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 9:10pm:
Brew, that was the funniest joke ever about Meniere's Disease.   You should be on the stage!  There's one leaving in ten minutes.   ;D


Yeah, but that's the only one I've ever heard about Meniere's disease.   ;)

Then by default, it would be the worst one as well.

Title: Re: CH's connection to ear/balance problems?
Post by KJ on Dec 25th, 2009 at 10:38pm
Well, the worst one goes like this:

Say, do you know what a henweigh is?

Oh, usually about three and a half pounds, but Meniere's about four! ;D

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