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Message started by wishbone on Dec 22nd, 2009 at 9:02pm

Title: Kudzu, skull etc.
Post by wishbone on Dec 22nd, 2009 at 9:02pm
I am back in cycle big time getting hit 6-8 times a time so I am running through O2 like crazy.  I thought about trying the kudzu, skullcap, St John's wart to see if it may possibly stop or slow down my hits but I remember that I need to be off some or all of my meds.  I saw the thread but honestly not up on medical terminology to identify which meds fall into category.  I am now taking verapamil, lithium and topamax. Which of these (or all) do I need to stop taking to begin the kudzu etc. and how long do I have to be off before taking.  Thanks Wishbone :'(

Title: Re: Kudzu, skull etc.
Post by Ernie Moss aka Wishbone on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 10:21am
Not to confuse anyone, but long story lost my CH id and password so had to re-re register so the original thread is me, not that this really matters.  I believe Kilowatt may have started the old thread on Kudzu, skullcap, St John's Wart and others replied saying you had to be off medicine with some acronym but I just don't know what that acronym means, so I am trying to fin out if I need to detox from lithium, verapamil or topamax or all of them.  Thanks  :'(

Title: Re: Kudzu, skull etc.
Post by Chad on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 11:15am
Kilowatt had a nice link explaining his cocktail.  If I find it, i'll post it.

Title: Re: Kudzu, skull etc.
Post by Chad on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 11:31am
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Here's the cocktail:

Kudzu - 1000 mg, 2x per day (morning & night)
Magnesium - 250 mg, 2x per day (morning & night)
St. John's Wort - 300 mg, 2x per day (morning & night)
Skullcap - 425 mg at bedtime
Melatonin - 10 mg at bedtime

Title: Re: Kudzu, skull etc.
Post by Ernie Moss aka Wishbone on Dec 24th, 2009 at 7:32am
Thanks Chad, I actually had found the thread etc. but did not find or overlooked which medicines I needed to detox from before trying the herbs.  Since then i have done more research and it honestly seems I need to detox from all.  I just hope my O2 holds out I am getting hit now about 10 times a day a running through 6 E Tanks and 1 M Tank a week. Supplier closes today at noon until Monday so I am nervous although I am stocked for now. Thanks again and hope others have PF days. Ernie
:'(

Title: Re: Kudzu, skull etc.
Post by Kilowatt3 on Dec 25th, 2009 at 11:42pm
Hi Ernie,

I am not aware of a need to "detox" from anything before trying the mix.  I think the need for "detoxing" generally applies to clusterbusting with indole alkaloids (e.g. LSD, LSA, or psilocybin).  My mix contains none of those compounds.

Give it a try, and expect a miracle  ;)  Please post your results!

Best regards,
Jim

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