all to hell.  Due to my white trash neighbors that live across the road from me, I can't even go outside anymore most evenings.  They are burning the trash out of that POS trailer that the POS people had been renting (the pile of trash that they got out of the trailer would be the size of a small trailer lot).  Burning trash, that cant' be bad can it? 

Of course, when you start throwing plastic, mattresses, and vinyl on the pile, you get a nice little mix of toxic smoke being given off.  If I go outside, it will automatically trigger a migraine (and if it's the right mix of chemicals burns, no matter what I do, the headache won't go away).  We've filed two complaints with DEQ and nobody is doing shit.

Guess it's time to start calling our Senator and Representative.

>:(

Damn....I'll stop whining about the neighbor with the howling dog.......... :-/

Joe

They finally made it illegal in New York State. The smoke is very toxic. If it is a large fire you can try calling the non-emergency number of you local Fire Department.

Paul

It was not that large of a fire.  Not only that, our fire dept. is volunteer and they don't even have the proper gear for fighting a fire that would create that type of toxic smoke.

I don't ever see them outlawing burning trash where I live.  We are much too rural and don't have any type of garbage pickup.

Take photo's or video to prove it too

Woops

Somehow that fire made it's way to the trailer itself. Gotta hate when that happens.

Mike

LMAO @ you Mike.

   Carolyn, is there anyway you can get a few of the neighbors together and go over to them and present your case in a respectful way so as not to make them angry?
If it's legal to have a fire like this to burn trash...maybe the EPA or some agency like it could be involved if they won't stop.

Last week my white trash neighbor caught his white trash house on fire.

I went outside to take a smoke and smelled that nasty plastic smell and I thought he had set fire to the furniture he had piled up to burn.  Then I took a closer look and saw the flames comming up through the ridge.

On my way back inside to call 911 and I heard the fire trucks on the way.

Now he has more furniture added to the pile. Can't wait for him to set that ablaze.

Found out that he started a fire in the fireplace when the upper part of the flue was cracked off and the fire went into the attic. He also suffered some minor burns when he went back into the house to get his motorcycle out.

Unfortunately he has already reproduced.

Root

LMAO @ Mike & Root!

Make a pest of yourself, Carolyn.  Keep calling everyone over and over and maybe they will get tired of the squeaky wheel and do something.  I feel for you about the migraines.  Mine have been acting up lately and it sucks.  Nasty smell triggers are the worst. 

Good Luck and let us know if anything gets done.  (we can hope)

Beth

That's disgusting!

Sounds like you live across the road from a bunch of hillbillies.....sure hope it's not some of my kin that have moved on down from northern Arkansas... ;)

Fire BAD!

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I'm surprised the cops won't do anything.  That's just crazy.

Langa

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Take photo's or video to prove it too

Can't go outside to take pics when they're burning.  Not
Linda_Howell wrote on Feb 25^th, 2010 at 11:27am:

LMAO @ you Mike.    Carolyn, is there anyway you can get a few of the neighbors together and go over to them and present your case in a respectful way so as not to make them angry? If it's legal to have a fire like this to burn trash...maybe the EPA or some agency like it could be involved if they won't stop.

I really don't give a damn about making them angry (besides, I promise you, I'm far better armed than they are).  Don't have enough neighbors to even get together to talk to them. 

NEWSFLASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  The guy with DEQ (Jimbo knows everybody) has been out sick.  He called JImbo today to let him know that he had been buy and taken pictures.  PLUS!  Since this *place* is classified as a trailer park, it is required by law to have a sewage system ( a suit was filed years ago and the DA ignored it).  She is actually running shit (literally) out on the ground where it drains into a natural watershed.  So, DEQ will be completing a full investigation!

Awwww. Let's not get too excited.......you need time to get to the next gun show.

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Aw, Charlie.  I just went to a gun/ammo show a few weeks ago.  Shucks, if you've been to one, it's wash, rinse, repeat  ;D.

And it gets even better.  What we thought were venetian blinds they were burning was in actuality, now, get this........ vinyl siding!  Oh joy, I've been breathing dioxins!

DEQ: Department of Environmental Quagmire?

In NY we have the DEC: Department of Environmental Conservation, is this the same thing?

Paul

DEQ=Department of Enviornmental Quality.  Opus, I looked at the website for NY state and it seems that your department is several rolled in to one. 

Taken from the LA DEQ website

"The mission of the Department was originally envisioned to manage all environmental concerns. The initial argument was whether areas such as wildlife and fisheries, parks and recreation, wetlands, scenic streams, litter control, drinking water, and agriculture and forestry were considered environmental management areas. With the exception of litter control, which moved to DEQ in 1993, all of these areas have, by definition, remained in other departments responsible for their particular management and control. While certain responsibilities have been transferred to DEQ over the years, environmental concerns of other departments necessitate interaction with DEQ. ".

Got a few pics today.  A few this morning and then a few this afternoon (was raining).

Behold, Trailerparke de Trash

This is the trailer that the people moved out of.  They have already burned piles twice.  When they first started cleaning it out, there was a pile on the porch almost to the roof.

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Mary, the owner of this lovely site, decided that she was going to *build* a *pool hall* for the children of her renters.

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Take special note of the *side* buildings that she was attaching.

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Ain't it just lurverly!

Looks like SCORE!!!!!  Re gift time.

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For some reason I can only see the first 2 pics, but oh wow, that would make me ill. :P

I don't care HOW those adults lived, but you would keep a BABY in that squalor?
brings tears to my eyes....and a burning desire to do major harm to the parents!

...not to mention, noone should ever have to live near that! Disgusting, and I am sorry you are subjected to it!

Cathi

OMG...that is totally disgusting....and I can only see ONE picture.

La DEQ has been called, came to look. Sheriff's Office has been called and came and put part of it out one night. Also there is NO septic system, tightlines run to a gulley out back. $hit runs on the ground. I wish they would start another meth lab there (already been one) that would be a good excuse for explosion and fire  ;D. Will see what DEQ can do, since the district attorney refused to follow up on all the Dept of Health and Hospitals could do.

damn politicians


Jimbo

Should be able to see them all now (had to fix the links).  Take a close look at the second pic~the one with the play pen on the porch.  If I'm not badly mistaken, that's a girlie magazine in there (yes it is).

The place has a wonderful reputation!  Call the sheriffs' dept. and all you have to tell them is " Mary * trailer park and all they do is ask which trailer.  You don't even have to give them an address. 

I truly dread this summer when all the kids are out of school.  Kids in the road, bicycles/toys/whatever left in the road (and that's now).

Just imagine what this did to the value of my custom built home.

Man, that's depressing............

Ok, now I see them, YUCK. :P

Carolyn - that's awful that you have to live anywhere near that.  Please tell me that children did not live in that bloody hovel!  Children's Aid need to be notified if there were little ones living there.  I can't even imagine anyone living like that!

There were kids in that trailer, don't now how many though.  And kids live in at least one of the other trailers.  I don't understand how humans can live like this.

Wow that is truly gross. It's one thing to live with very limited means, but jeez, that is no way to live, much less with children.   

I hope this gets resolved soon for your sake, real shame when people don't care.

Carolyn I don't know what to say.

I'm totally shocked.

How anyone can accept this level of slovenliness is beyond my capacity to understand.

Human Beings have throughout time shown the capacity to write poetry, create art of a profound level, make music, write and engineer beautiful things.

Scientists have determined that only 1% of our DNA is different from our nearest relative the chimp.

After seeing this and similar examples of the litter slim that some of our fellow Humans leave behind, I can only surmise that some of us have not the degree of difference determined by our scientific community. My God... How can someone live this way?

I don't care how poor one is..at least you can be clean.

I've got to stop.

More than likely we're all paying for this in some fashion.

Steve G

All I can say is, HOLY F!!!

These folks need help!

As much as I truly despise lawyers, perhaps a civil suit vs. Mary?

Looks like a fire hazard to me.

Mike

Unfortunately, a civil suit is out of the question.  There's nothing to sue for.  Creating an eyesore?  Polluting the atmosphere (cant' prove it).  Not only that, civil suits cost money and time, neither of which we have an abundance of.

Could you call the Children's Aid which might then do something about the deplorable conditions children are living in.

That might then start other investigations going.

The people who lived in that first trailer (one with all the garbage) have moved.  As to the others, I've actually seen worse when I worked for on a project for the NIH (national institute of health).  As long as the kids are being fed, have a roof over their heads and are being sent to school in proper clothing and not being beaten or abused, CPS won't intervene.  Living in filth is not against the law, unfortunately.

After looking closely at the trash in the 1st. picture, I'd say there were 3 kids living there.   A playpen for an infant,  a boys bike for a kid around 8 or 9 and some plastic kids furniture for a small girl. 

I've actually seen houses a lot worse than this in my time.  Both in California and Kentucky.  I will never understand why people are content to live in filth and squallor.  Especially when they have children.  This had nothing what-so-ever to do with poverty in my opinion.  It's how THEY were raised or  how much drugs they're using, and plain laziness. 

I hope the parents screw up and dosomething  illegal so some agency can take those kids away from there.   

There is noone living in that first trailer any more (the one with all the garbage).

Maybe you're going about this the wrong way. See if the CDC can help. The raw sewage has got to be a health hazard, plus they're federal and the DA has nothing to say about it.

Nancy,
Do you even know what CDC does and how they do it?  I'm sorry, CDC would not even think about this.  This is a local problem and DEQ will either handle it or I will go to my Senator/Reps about it.

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Go get 'em..........wouldn't it be nice. Damn.

Charlie

Carolyn
If you can't deal with it yourselves, a hitman may only cost a few quid for a triffling dollar or two for a bit of heavy threatening
The authorites never come down quick enough on these louts and are never strong enough when they do.

Actually I do know what the CDC does. We had them here locally when the water in a small subdivision here was contaminated by sewage water. The local government would do nothing so a friend of mine reported to the CDC. Raw sewage in the water supply is asking for dysentary and a host of other very bad things- just ask the folks in Haiti and New Orleans.

Look I'm not trying to cause an argument here. What I'm trying to say, is as awful as it is to look at and breathe, the sewage is probably what you're going to get action on. That is not a local problem. If your on a well system you need to get you're water tested to make sure it hasn't been contaminated. Everyone down stream from you is at risk of getting sick, from kids just playing in a puddle to someones well water. Wishing you well and hope you get some action soon!

Sorry, but the sewage is not the main issue, that is a local issue and would have to be handled by the local/state authorities.  To be quite honest, the open sewage does not directly affect me.  We are on a community well system and it is not possible for the sewage to contaminate the water.

The toxins released by them burning crap is much more of a concern to me.  Some of the toxins released by the crap they are burning include, dioxin, phosgene (used in chemical weapons in WW II), furans, and benzopyrenes to name a few.

As to the CDC.  They cannot and will not become involved in anything to do at the local or state level unless their assistance is requested by an agency.  They have no regulatory or enforcement powers (advisory only).  CDC's main involvement after Katrina was with the SNS(strategic national stockpile) and after the state took control, they were no longer invovled.  My husband, has almost 30 years with the public health agency in Louisiana and emergency services (he spent months in Baton Rouge after Katrina).  He has contacts with the CDC and we already know they can't/won't become inolved.

I went outside to take pictures of the Wolf Moon and had to come back in because of the acrid smoke (actually burned my nose and made my head hurt).  Later, the smoke was thicker and you could see it in a about 5 feet off the ground.

Adding insult to injury, these are some of the pics that Jimbo took last night on his way home.

Wonder when they will start burning the tires?  And look at al that lovely stuff, just waiting to be thrown on the burn pile!

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Carolyn - are there no laws against burning stuff like that?  It would require a burn permit in most areas here.

It's horrible that they can do all of this and your hands are so tied.

Did you mention they have kids?  Maybe CPS would help...

Langa

Unfortunately, there are no restrictions, per se.  The biggest thing is that they are burning what would be considered *non-household* items.  Burning garbage is a bit of a health hazard as it is, but when you throw all the other crap on top of it, you have a bigger problem.

I'm hoping that everything adds up enough to get somebody to do something.  If we haven't heard anything in a few weeks, I'll be on the phone to my senator/representatives.

Sometimes the wheels of justice are slow, sometimes they come to a grinding halt and then, there are those times, when you look in the mirror and realize the wheels of justice left skid marks on your face  :P.

That is totally disgusting!!!

I'm betting you and Jimbo get something figured out to get this slum cleaned up.

Jimbo went back up there last night because they had a huge fire burning.  He tried to talk to the wife and her husband (renters, not owners) and explain to them the toxins that they are polluting the air with.  Don't think he made much progress.  Both of them seem to be completely clueless.  The wife said that Mary (the owner) told her to get what she might find useful and then burn the paper.  Unfortunately, they are burning everything.  It looks like they burned a damned computer moniter.

IF they test the soil around that trailer, the are probably going to find dioxins in the soil (and it stays around for years).

Geez, this sucks!

Again, the trailer with all the garbage has no *humans* living in it.  Some of the other trailers do (and that is a whole 'nuther post).

Than think like a ch'er- your not the only one. Two voices don't mean squat to your representatives. Find all the other people that have the same problem and work together.

NancyB wrote on Mar 1^st, 2010 at 9:04am:

Than think like a ch'er- your not the only one. Two voices don't mean squat to your representatives. Find all the other people that have the same problem and work together.

Can't think like a ch'er, cos' I'm not one  ;).  The problem is that when they are burning crap, it really only affects 2 other houses.  All the others are far enough apart that it doesn' affect them.  I'm guessing that the toxic smoke is not really affecting those two houses either.  I have migraines and this frickin' smoke tends to trigger them. 

I live in a really rural area and sad to say, most of my neighbors now are not people that I'd choose to live next too.  We've been here for almost 30 years and it used to not be like this.

No - that's not what I mean. Your house isn't the only house that has someone burning toxic waste next to them. If someone is doing that next to you, you can bet that somone else is doing it too, and there are other people just as frustrated as you are. There are, more than likely, people in your county, area, whatever that are having the same problem. Search them out and band together. The more people you can find the better.

Although I understand what you are trying to say, it's just  not possible.  This parish is huge and the population is spread out to say the least.  It's just not possible to do what you're talking about.  Hell they won't even do anything about illegal dumping.

How will you know untill you try?

NancyB wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2010 at 8:39am:

How will you know untill you try?

Tell you what, you find me the time and find a way for me to pay for the amount of gas that I will need and I'll be glad to do it.  I work full time and travel to boot.  This parish encompasses 877 square miles and has a population of about 30,000.  There are 3 towns and 4 villages, with the largest town having about 4,000 people.

What you're suggesting is neither practical nor feasible.

Use the internet like your doing now- I'm in Wyoming, the least populated state in the country. People still find each other. It all depends on how bad you want to get rid of your problem. If you think it's not worth it that's your decision.

Okay, please tell me how I'm supposed to locate these people on the internet. 

You don't seem to grasp what I've said in previous posts, burning trash is not illegal in this parish and since we don't have garbage pickup, that ain't gonna happen anytime soon. 

I don't really care what happens 5 miles away from me, I just want this crap stopped down the road from me.

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NancyB wrote on Mar 2nd, 2010 at 8:39am: How will you know untill you try? Tell you what, you find me the time and find a way for me to pay for the amount of gas that I will need and I'll be glad to do it.  I work full time and travel to boot.  This parish encompasses 877 square miles and has a population of about 30,000.  There are 3 towns and 4 villages, with the largest town having about 4,000 people. What you're suggesting is neither practical nor feasible.

And a Barney Fife look a like contest winner is the sheriff.

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I feel the need to apologize here. I don't mean to get anyone mad at me. I do tend to be a bit stubborn. You put a problem like this in front of me and it's like a scab I just can't keep picking at untill it's gone, so if I've offended anyone I apoplogize. Having said that- 'cause I can't just leave stuff alone ( and I promise after this I'll shut up ) just looked at the Lousiana Department of Enviromental Control Newsletter, and infact open burning is illegal as of the October newsletter. Hope this helps, maybe you can download and take it to the police and get some help. The website addy is START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to or END PRINTPAGE. Ther is a nice long list of stuff never to be burned too!

NancyB wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2010 at 12:30pm:

Ther is a nice long list of stuff never to be burned too!

Why the need for a list if it's all illegal? Wouldn't it save bandwidth and space if the list of acceptable items were published, like NOTHING? The Null Set. Nada. Nichts.

What a mess!!  I will never understand how people can live in and surrounded by filth. 

I hope someone does something to get this mess cleaned up!!  How frustrating!

Beth

Do you know how many unenforceable laws are on the book?

On a brighter note, they are trying to locate the woman who owns the trailer park.  Then it will go from there.

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Good luck! Hope they find them!