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Message started by Gator Bill on Sep 18th, 2010 at 1:40pm

Title: caffiene/taurine
Post by Gator Bill on Sep 18th, 2010 at 1:40pm
are these used as inhibitors as well as abortives? is 8oz enuff or the more the better? are there issues with how many 8oz & how often? is one brand more effective than another?

Title: Re: caffiene/taurine
Post by Callico on Sep 18th, 2010 at 3:02pm
Welcome aboard Bill,

8oz is probably enough to at least knock back a hit to a lower level.  No, it is not used as a preventative.  You use it as an abortive at the first sign of an oncoming attack.  The sooner you get to it the more effective it will be. 

What you want to find is at least 1000mg of Taurene.  The brand doesn't matter.  That is just taste.  My preference is the 5hr Energy in the 2 oz bottles because they don't mess up my stomach as badly as the others, plus it is much easier to slam down 2 oz than 8 or 16.  It also doesn't seem to give the crash later that some of the others give. 

Your personal taste and choice is all there is to it.

Jerry

Title: Re: caffiene/taurine
Post by monty on Sep 20th, 2010 at 1:44am

Callico wrote on Sep 18th, 2010 at 3:02pm:
No, it is not used as a preventative. 


A few people do use it for prevention... one Aussie here kept pretty good headache diaries and records of what he took, and he felt pretty secure that it helped him (although it was not a controlled scientific study).

Tablets or powder are much cheaper than any of the beverages, although not as fact acting as having it dissolved ahead of time in a beverage.

Japanese studies on taurine involving humans (investigating blood pressure and overactive nervous systems) involved 3 to 6 grams per day for several months, with no observed side effects.


Title: Re: caffiene/taurine
Post by Callico on Sep 20th, 2010 at 1:36pm
Thanks Monty.  I had forgotten about that.  Haven't heard of anyone else having success with it though, but I may wll have missed it.  Primarily it is used as an abortive though.

Jerry

Title: Re: caffiene/taurine
Post by Barry_T_Coles on Sep 20th, 2010 at 8:58pm

monty wrote on Sep 20th, 2010 at 1:44am:

Callico wrote on Sep 18th, 2010 at 3:02pm:
No, it is not used as a preventative. 


A few people do use it for prevention... one Aussie here kept pretty good headache diaries and records of what he took, and he felt pretty secure that it helped him (although it was not a controlled scientific study).

Tablets or powder are much cheaper than any of the beverages, although not as fact acting as having it dissolved ahead of time in a beverage.

Japanese studies on Taurine involving humans (investigating blood pressure and overactive nervous systems) involved 3 to 6 grams per day for several months, with no observed side effects.

Hi that Aussie was me. ;)
This link will take you back to the old board in October 2006 when I was trialing Taurine as a prevent.
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Although I had some early success with Taurine it wasn't the silver bullet I was looking for, certainly not as a preventative.
What I did realise over time was that it worked very well as a promoter for other supplements such as Magnesium & Zink in that it makes those supplements more readily absorb-able by the body.
One thing that was really noticeable was the return of my short term memory, I no longer had to write things on sticky notes just to remember what I had to do in 5 min time.

There’s some other interesting things that I come across while I had been reading up on it; Taurine levels are higher in pregnant & lactating mothers & is important in the brain development of the unborn child, what is interesting about this is that some women report that they don’t go into CH cycles while pregnant.
Another interesting thing and this is my opinion only is that if you look at the chemical reaction of Taurine once it hits the bile acids it turns into H2O2 hydrogen peroxide, it appears that this happens very quickly & has a lasting effect.
Effectively as I see it you are getting an extra molecule of oxygen from the reaction & as H2O2 is self oxygen generating it therefore doesn’t scavenge oxygen from the rest of your system.
There was also a report I read where scientists where having some success with treating Alzheimer's patients with Taurine.

Cheers
Barry

Title: Re: caffiene/taurine
Post by wimsey1 on Sep 21st, 2010 at 8:06am
We've also kicked around whether or not the volume (large can, small can) and carbonation has an effect on absorbtion rate. I don't know scientifically, but I can say I have much better results chugging a 16oz-er than I do when I down the small bottle of Monster or a 5Hr Energy drink. Anything to this? Blessings. lance

Title: Re: caffiene/taurine
Post by LadyLuv on Sep 21st, 2010 at 10:37am
It has really helped me with my shadowing... or at least I feel that it has helped..

I prefer Rip-It.... it's cheap ($1.00 for 16oz)... and is sweeten with Splenda...

They now sell Splenda in the 2FL oz shot bottles.. I bought one, but realize that I could only use it for decoration. it only have 100mg or Taurine and a
100mg or caffeine..

Lady Luv 

Title: Re: caffiene/taurine
Post by Arde on Sep 21st, 2010 at 2:33pm
I also use Rip-It, definitely helps with the shadows. I keep it at room temp. and use the tried and true method of consumption, chug, chug,(belch)chug, chug.
Whenever I feel anything bad coming coming on, chugging a can is the first thing I do. I feel it definitely helps lower the intensity and duration of a HA to the extent that I don't even need O2.
 

Title: Re: caffiene/taurine
Post by Perediablo on Sep 21st, 2010 at 3:59pm
I have a friend with Krohn's disease. He is prescribed Taurine as a digestive aid. It helps him in the early digestion of foods because his intestinal system is wrecked, as well as the quick absorbing of his pain meds, which by the way are insane. He has the delaudid lollipops that he always has in his mouth. The levels of which would kill most of us. WOW!

Any way Taurine as a digestive aid. That may be the reason the caffeine gets into the blood so fast from one of those drinks.

BTW, I prefer the diet Monster, or the coffee flavored ones. They taste like a frapuccino.

Eric

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Title: Re: caffiene/taurine
Post by Barry_T_Coles on Sep 21st, 2010 at 7:10pm

DeStijl wrote on Sep 21st, 2010 at 3:59pm:
Any way Taurine as a digestive aid. That may be the reason the caffeine gets into the blood so fast from one of those drinks.



Eric

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That's exactly what I mean when I say that Taurine is like a Turbo, it accelerates the other meds or vitamins & is why you should talk these things over with your GP before adding to your medical diet.

Cheers
Barry

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