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Message started by R33_Ian on Oct 1st, 2010 at 8:34am

Title: Not sure whats happening!
Post by R33_Ian on Oct 1st, 2010 at 8:34am
I have been on 80mg propanalol twice a day for two weeks and I haven't had a hit for 11 days but the shadows seem to be stepping up in the last few days. They are regular, 3 times a day at the same time and feel exactly like I'm about to have an attack in about 5 minutes but it doesn't come.

This is all great as I've only had half of the pain and not for that long but is it the end of my cluster period or the medication halving/decreasing the hit?

If theres one thing I've learnt from this great forum its that everyone seems to suffer differently but I thought I'd ask what you all thought as I'm constantly wondering when the pain will come back and this is my first CH experience.

My headaches started just over 5 weeks ago and my GP won't medicate me further till I see a neurologist which I'm waiting for.

Sorry for waffling and thanks again.

Ian

Title: Re: Not sure whats happening!
Post by Bob_Johnson on Oct 1st, 2010 at 9:09am
Ian, your experience is very common, especially in someone who is just starting to develop CH.

It's not uncommon for us to experience a changing symptom picture (duration, intensity of pain, site of major pain, etc.) for a good many months, even years, before a stable pattern emerges. It's premature to make any statements about what is happening to you.

The med you are using is about 30-yrs out of date (in the U.S.) for the treatment of CH so I'm reluctant to ascribe any changes in your condition to it.

While you are waiting for your neuro appt, start some deep learning about CH. (Many of us know more than our docs and we have often had to teach them about how to treat us! I hope you end up with an open ego who will receive!)

First, start to cultivate patience. It's a prime survival skill for CH Folks.

Second, explore your excellent support group:
START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or RegisterEND PRINTPAGE. They are both a support and an aid if you have problems with your health care system.

Third, read the PDF file, below. It will give a current outline of treatment of CH and you can use it as a guide to how you are being treated by your new doc.

Fourth, read the complete version of this artricle:

Cluster headache.
From: START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or RegisterEND PRINTPAGE (Orphanet Journal of Rare Diseases)
[Easy to read; one of the better overview articles I've seen. Suggest printing the full length article--link, line above--if you are serious about keeping a good medical library on the subject.]

Leroux E, Ducros A.

ABSTRACT: Cluster headache (CH) is a primary headache disease characterized by recurrent short-lasting attacks (15 to 180 minutes) of excruciating unilateral periorbital pain accompanied by ipsilateral autonomic signs (lacrimation, nasal congestion, ptosis, miosis, lid edema, redness of the eye). It affects young adults, predominantly males. Prevalence is estimated at 0.5-1.0/1,000. CH has a circannual and circadian periodicity, attacks being clustered (hence the name) in bouts that can occur during specific months of the year. ALCOHOL IS THE ONLY DIETARY TRIGGER OF CH, STRONG ODORS (MAINLY SOLVENTS AND CIGARETTE SMOKE) AND NAPPING MAY ALSO TRIGGER CH ATTACKS. During bouts, attacks may happen at precise hours, especially during the night. During the attacks, patients tend to be restless. CH may be episodic or chronic, depending on the presence of remission periods. CH IS ASSOCIATED WITH TRIGEMINOVASCULAR ACTIVATION AND NEUROENDOCRINE AND VEGETATIVE DISTURBANCES, HOWEVER, THE PRECISE CAUSATIVE MECHANISMS REMAIN UNKNOWN. Involvement of the hypothalamus (a structure regulating endocrine function and sleep-wake rhythms) has been confirmed, explaining, at least in part, the cyclic aspects of CH. The disease is familial in about 10% of cases. Genetic factors play a role in CH susceptibility, and a causative role has been suggested for the hypocretin receptor gene. Diagnosis is clinical. Differential diagnoses include other primary headache diseases such as migraine, paroxysmal hemicrania and SUNCT syndrome. At present, there is no curative treatment. There are efficient treatments to shorten the painful attacks (acute treatments) and to reduce the number of daily attacks (prophylactic treatments). Acute treatment is based on subcutaneous administration of sumatriptan and high-flow oxygen. Verapamil, lithium, methysergide, prednisone, greater occipital nerve blocks and topiramate may be used for prophylaxis. In refractory cases, deep-brain stimulation of the hypothalamus and greater occipital nerve stimulators have been tried in experimental settings.THE DISEASE COURSE OVER A LIFETIME IS UNPREDICTABLE. Some patients have only one period of attacks, while in others the disease evolves from episodic to chronic form.

PMID: 18651939 [PubMed]

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Title: Re: Not sure whats happening!
Post by R33_Ian on Oct 1st, 2010 at 9:33am
I am very thankful that I haven't had a full blown hit for a while so I can afford to be patient.

I think my meds were a long shot by my GP as it is normally for migraines and it kept me quiet while I was waiting for my neuro appt. It is also pretty much the strongest thing he is willing to prescribe. I showed him a list of primary meds for CH from here and I think it scared him off. I was referred in no time!  :)

I already know more than my GP from just a short time on here with you guys so I will keep pushing till I find someone who helps and fully understands. Thanks Bob

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