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Cluster Headache Help and Support >> Medications, Treatments, Therapies >> Herbs as abortive treatment http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1287059675 Message started by Stiltz812002 on Oct 14th, 2010 at 8:34am |
Title: Re: Herbs as abortive treatment Post by monty on Oct 19th, 2010 at 10:22am
The tetrahydropalmatine in corydalis is listed as a calcium channel blocker (like verapamil) and a dopamine blocker (like olanzapine). Also evidence that it blocks the serotonin-2 receptors and stimulates the serotonin-1 receptors (partial overlap with kudzu, olanzapine, triptans, clusterbusters, etc). All in all, a very interesting molecule for clusterheads.
START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to ![]() ![]() Wouldn't want to combine it with verapamil, as it could have additive or synergistic effects on the heart rhythm or speed - it might slow things down too much or induce a funky, dangerous beat. And the groggyness that corydalis can produce suggests it would not be good to mix it with Neurontin (Gabapentin) or Topomax (Topiramate). |
Title: Re: Herbs as abortive treatment Post by wimsey1 on Oct 20th, 2010 at 8:05am
Monty, you anticipated my questions, thanks for the answers! It does sound as if this has some validity, though, as another alternative should my verapamil/amitriptyline/melatonin regimen break down. Any downsides-assuming one gets off the verapamil-that you can think of? Blessings. lance
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Title: Re: Herbs as abortive treatment Post by monty on Oct 21st, 2010 at 10:38am
Not sure, Lance - I have used Angelica before (both as an herb and a spice). But corydalis is rather new to me - read a few things over the years, but not really that familiar with it. Will do some digging over the next days to find out more.
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Title: Re: Herbs as abortive treatment Post by Stiltz812002 on Oct 26th, 2010 at 8:41am
Great information Monty! Thank you for the followup.
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Title: Re: Herbs as abortive treatment Post by wimsey1 on Oct 27th, 2010 at 12:06pm
Thanks, Monty. I look forward to whatever you find. Blessings! lance
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