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Cluster Headache Help and Support >> Cluster Headache Specific >> Depakote-Imitrex-O2 http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1289776486 Message started by Kevin on Nov 14th, 2010 at 6:14pm |
Title: Depakote-Imitrex-O2 Post by Kevin on Nov 14th, 2010 at 6:14pm
I haven't been on here for a while. I am working non-stop and have been in remission for a while. My current cycle started 7 days ago, but feels like a year. I have a Dr appointment on Wednesday and wanted to see what you all recommend, since you are the experts! I used to get mine at night, now they are at night, then almost every 2-4 hours during the day with constant shadows in between. Last 2 times I was on Depakote 250mg and O2. I use the Imitrex trick but try not to over due it. I am getting slammed this time and aren't really sure what to do. Dep doesn't feel like it is doing anything, and I am going through O2 like water.. Any suggestions would be greatly apprciated.
God bless, Kevin |
Title: Re: Depakote-Imitrex-O2 Post by Guiseppi on Nov 14th, 2010 at 10:58pm
Ask your doc about Verapamil. It's a very common first line prevent that has proven succesful for many on the board. We use it at a dose higher then most docs are used to, some go as high as 960 mg a day to get relief.
I drink an energy drink, sugar free red bull, while I abort with oxygen. Seems to really push back the come backer attacks. Might be worth a shot to see if you can cut down on the attacks until you can ask your doc about verapamil. I use lithium, at 1200 mg a day for my prevent. It blocks about 60-70% of my attacks. If the verapamil doesn't work that might be worth a try too. Good luck! ;) Joe |
Title: Re: Depakote-Imitrex-O2 Post by Kevin_M on Nov 15th, 2010 at 7:24am Kevin wrote on Nov 14th, 2010 at 6:14pm:
It seems the depakote as a preventive med is not. Hang in, as Guiseppi mentions, verap could work, but at this point maybe a prednisone taper to get the verap to an effective level for you, and to give you a break. Welcome back. |
Title: Re: Depakote-Imitrex-O2 Post by Guiseppi on Nov 15th, 2010 at 9:53am
What Bob said, I was hoping he'd pipe in with that article! :)
Joe |
Title: Re: Depakote-Imitrex-O2 Post by Kevin on Nov 15th, 2010 at 12:19pm
Thanks all for your advice. I think the verap I was on before was too low a dosage based on what you are all saying. One last one. Imitrex. How much is too much? If I give myself a have injection in the late evening then a half in the am (trying to balance sleep and work), is that too much? What if it is daily? Too much?? THANKS!!
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Title: Re: Depakote-Imitrex-O2 Post by mikstudie on Nov 15th, 2010 at 12:50pm Kevin wrote on Nov 15th, 2010 at 12:19pm:
Ask your doctor on that,Imitrex is nothing to mess with. |
Title: Re: Depakote-Imitrex-O2 Post by Bob_Johnson on Nov 15th, 2010 at 2:15pm
Neurology. 2006 Oct 10;67(7):1128-34. [Publisher's note: information correct as of 1/27/09.]
Risk of ischemic complications related to the intensity of triptan and ergotamine use. Wammes-van der Heijden EA, Rahimtoola H, Leufkens HG, Tijssen CC, Egberts AC. Division of Pharmacoepidemiology and Pharmacotherapy, Utrecht Institute for Pharmaceutical Sciences, Faculty of Science, Utrecht University, The Netherlands. OBJECTIVE: To investigate whether the intensity of triptan and ergotamine use, in specific overuse, is associated with the risk of ischemic complications. METHODS: We conducted a retrospective nested case-control study using data from the PHARMO Record Linkage System. All patients with more than one prescription for either a triptan or ergotamine were initially identified. Cases were all patients who were admitted to the hospital for an ischemic complication. Matched controls were assigned the same index date as the cases. The determinant was the intensity of use of triptans and ergotamine during 1 year preceding the index date. OVERUSE WAS DEFINED AS USE OF > OR =90 DEFINED DAILY DOSES DURING THAT YEAR. Conditional logistic regression was used to estimate odds ratios (ORs), adjusting for confounders. Stratified analysis was used to estimate the risk for both patients using and those not using cardiovascular drugs. RESULTS: A total of 17,439 patients received more than one prescription. A total of 188 cases and 689 controls were identified. Triptan overuse was not associated with an increased risk of ischemic complications (OR 0.96; 95% CI: 0.49 to 1.90). Overuse of triptans in patients concomitantly using cardiovascular drugs did not increase this risk. Overuse of ergotamine turned out to be a risk factor for ischemic complications (OR 2.55; 95% CI: 1.22 to 5.36). Patients overusing ergotamine and concomitantly using cardiovascular drugs were at highest risk (OR 8.52; 95% CI 2.57 to 28.2). CONCLUSIONS: IN GENERAL PRACTICE, TRIPTAN OVERUSE DOES NOT INCREASE THE RISK OF ISCHEMIC COMPLICATIONS. OVERUSE OF ERGOTAMINE MAY INCREASE THE RISK OF THESE COMPLICATIONS, ESPECIALLY IN THOSE SIMULTANEOUSLY USING CARDIOVASCULAR DRUGS. PMID: 17030745 [PubMed ] |
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