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Title: Increasing verapamil Post by starlight on Dec 8th, 2010 at 8:00pm
Please don't get mad at me for asking this--I know it is stupid.
My doctor yesterday told me that I have had a 60% reduction in headaches but that he is not happy with that and wants me to double up on the verapamil at night b/c the headaches have not been eliminated (for example I had a breakthrough headache at 5:45 am today just as an example)--he thinks the dose I am taking right now is too low. (240 mg) (I take that with 12 mg melatonin and 4 benadryl per night) He is really nice, and I am really glad I am taking verapamil. But for some reason, I scare myself by googling every possible side effect of verapamil and imagining it will happen to me. I don't know why I am so scared of medicine--maybe because I have never really had to take medicine? Maybe some other verapamil user can reassure me? Sorry if this sounds completely neurotic! |
Title: Re: Increasing verapamil Post by Ginger S. on Dec 8th, 2010 at 8:06pm
Many here are on a higher dose of verapamil than you are and have been for years, myself included. To date the only occasional side affects I have had from it are mild ankle swelling and constipation. Both can be dealt with by lowering your salt intake and adding fiber (fruits and veggies) and more olive oil in your diet.
Take it slow but heed your Doc's advice, if you start getting any side affects discuss them with your doctor. If that happens there are other things you can try. Hang in there! |
Title: Re: Increasing verapamil Post by seaworthy on Dec 8th, 2010 at 8:37pm Quote:
Beats the hell out of the alternative. Listen to your Doc. Up the dose. |
Title: Re: Increasing verapamil Post by Kris_in_SJ on Dec 8th, 2010 at 8:46pm
During most of my cycles, I've done well on 240mg twice a day. During the last two, I've had to increase to 360mg twice a day. I still tend to shadow, but after a week at the higher dose, I've had no breakthrough clusters. My only side effect has been constipation, but I'm hypertensive so actually benefit from the added dose. Constipation is easy to deal with next to a kip 8-9.
As already said, follow your doc's advice. Best Wishes, Kris |
Title: Re: Increasing verapamil Post by jon019 on Dec 8th, 2010 at 9:15pm Layla328 wrote on Dec 8th, 2010 at 8:00pm:
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Title: Re: Increasing verapamil Post by starlight on Dec 8th, 2010 at 9:36pm
You all thank you so much for putting my mind at ease. (I don't why I am such a worry wart--that is how I always am and then being in cycle raises my anxiety level I guess--nice combo lol!) It is really good to hear from people who are on the medication and that it doesn't sound like you have had any bad side effects. Also, yes, I did need a reminder of what the alternative is--NOT good. The drug has really helped me a lot, and my doctor is the only one who has helped me so I will listen to his advice. I love sleep! I am getting too old for all of the wake up (or any) from the headaches. (Even at 30 it was easier to handle--had an easier time getting back to sleep.) Thanks you all for being there--all the information gained here has been priceless.
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Title: Re: Increasing verapamil Post by wimsey1 on Dec 9th, 2010 at 8:06am
In case one more testimony will help (can I get an AMEN?!) 240mg/day verapamil was having little or no effect on my cycle, and then when I was upped to 400mg/day, the cycle went into a much easier pattern of low KIP hits/shadows and nothing above a KIP 2. 9 months so far. Side effects as indicated above, and afternoon sleepy feelings. Beats the heck outta the alternative. Blessings. lance
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Title: Re: Increasing verapamil Post by starlight on Dec 9th, 2010 at 2:21pm
Lance, one more testimony does help, and I thank you for the encouragement. Bob, as always thanks for the sound advice and information. That is a good analogy with your mother and her friends and how you described it as being paralyzed by fear. That is very true--I will say of myself I can sometimes be a big scaredy cat lol. I did raise the dose last night with good results. Only side effect is some hand tremors in the morning. Which is nothing! I think sometimes with CH I act like a deer caught in the head lights and it has been enormously helpful both to have a good doctor and to have you all encouraging action. So thank you!
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Title: Re: Increasing verapamil Post by Peter B on Dec 16th, 2010 at 2:02pm
one more voice - I used to be wary of Verapamil but now am a fan. Can deal with constipation and hand tremors.
The only question I have for the group is what about rebounds when coming off Verapamil? Any experience there? |
Title: Re: Increasing verapamil Post by Bob Johnson on Dec 17th, 2010 at 8:07am
Peter, by definition "rebounds" arise from the use of pain meds and, perhaps, some abortives. Stopping Verap. might be followed by a shadow/headache if you stopped using it prematurely but it's not associated as a general response.
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Title: Re: Increasing verapamil Post by Peter B on Dec 17th, 2010 at 9:42am
thanks. I think I am going to lose it. Generally have cycles every few years, lasting 4 months at most. This cycle lasted for 5 months, and then when I finally tapered off Verapamil two weeks ago - I was hit with an inredibly stressful week. And the CH came back (it seems).
I do so hate this beast. |
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