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Title: Episodic turning chronic? Post by Tamagotch on Dec 21st, 2010 at 10:59am
Hi,
I have been episodic for 12-13 years, and usually get 1-2 episodes a year lasting 4-6 weeks. I've had clusters for over ten weeks now and o2 isn't touching them. Been using 2 imitrex injections every 24 hours. What I wondered was a) is it possible that the current extreme weather in the uk has extended my clusters or b) is it likely I'm turning chronic? I would appreciate any advice. Thank you very much. |
Title: Re: Episodic turning chronic? Post by Guiseppi on Dec 21st, 2010 at 11:54am
Don't sweat going chronic.....it will happen, or it won't. Worrying just adds to the CH aggravation! ;)
From personal experience, for over 20 years, I had 2 cycles a year, 2-3 months, fall and spring. Then in my 40's they went all over the board. 2 year remissions, 8 month cycles, no longer any kind of discernable pattern. As of yet, I still don't qualify as chronic, a full year of CH without a break, although there is talk of changing that definition! There is anectodal evidence triptans extend cycles. No hard and fast evidence, but a growing feeling among members here from their personal experiences. Do you have an effective prevent med you take? Verapamil, Lithium Topomax? Have you read the oxygen info tab on the left side of this screen? Many have found that when 02 failed them, a minor adjustment in HOW they used it dramatically affected it's ability to halt an attack. Welcome to the board, hoping we can help you out a bit. Joe |
Title: Re: Episodic turning chronic? Post by Tamagotch on Dec 21st, 2010 at 12:31pm
Thanks very much for your advice Joe. I am on no preventative medication, am waiting for a referral to a neurologist.
Thanks again, take care. |
Title: Re: Episodic turning chronic? Post by wimsey1 on Dec 21st, 2010 at 1:46pm
Please do as Joe suggests and read the O2 tab. We have found many who are using O2 at too low a level (7-10lpm or even less) or who are not taking full advantage of hyperventilation to abort the hit. Also, have you tried energy drinks? Like Red Bull, or anything that has a minimum of 1000mg taurine + caffeine? Many of us have found they aid in aborting a hit particularly if chugged rapidly at first onset. Let us know how you are getting on. Blessings. lance
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Title: Re: Episodic turning chronic? Post by Mike NZ on Dec 21st, 2010 at 1:54pm
I'll echo Joe's suggestion about reading up on the oxygen. With a high flow rate (15lpm or higher) and using a non-rebreather mask I'm killing off my CHs in 5-8 minutes.
I'd not worry about if you're chronic or not, after all it's just a label. Those who are chronic often post on here saying that they'd prefer to be chronic over episodic as they find that easier to deal with, just as those who are episodic say the same. I think it's all down to people getting a good understanding of their own CHs and not wanting things to change around on them (although CHs seem to morph over time). As to the weather, it's possible that being mid-winter and with the extreme cold you're not likely to be outside too much, you may be a bit low on vitamin D. Someone who posts here (Batch) has been posting how by taking vitamin D supplements (plus fish oil) he is decreasing the number of CHs he is getting. Others have posted how low pressure systems can appear to impact their CHs, although people living near sea level (like me) and others at higher altitude (e.g. Colarado) still get CHs. |
Title: Re: Episodic turning chronic? Post by Tamagotch on Dec 22nd, 2010 at 10:38am
Thank you lance and mike. Yes I drink red bull and o2 is 15l. O2 was aborting clusters for the first month but then seemed to just stop working.
Thank you all for your advice. |
Title: Re: Episodic turning chronic? Post by Tamagotch on Dec 30th, 2010 at 2:37pm
Thank you for the advice Marc. Unfortunately my o2 provider (BOC uk) will only provide 15lpm.
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Title: Re: Episodic turning chronic? Post by Mike NZ on Dec 30th, 2010 at 3:04pm
There is nothing stopping you sourcing your own regulator that does more than 15lpm.
I've got two regulators, one a 15lpm one provided by the hospital and one 25lpm I purchased. With the 25lpm I abort in half time it takes with the 15lpm one. |
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