New CH.com Forum
http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl
Cluster Headache Help and Support >> Medications,  Treatments,  Therapies >> propranolol, aka betachron aka inderal
http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1302260767

Message started by SeansWife on Apr 8th, 2011 at 7:06am

Title: propranolol, aka betachron aka inderal
Post by SeansWife on Apr 8th, 2011 at 7:06am
Hello,

My husband is a sufferer for over 10 yrs now. We really love all the info we've gotten from the site. We have a neuro appt and the GP gave him a blood pressure med to prevent the CH. Its called Propranolol. He started on Wed., had 3 CH's that night, took another dose last night and was PAIN FREE all night! Has anybody else used this med? Do we dare get our hopes up??
Thanks!
Carrie

Title: Re: propranolol, aka betachron aka inderal
Post by wimsey1 on Apr 8th, 2011 at 8:14am
Sure. Propanolol is a non-selective beta blocker used to treat a bunch of stuff, including hypertension and migraines. It's been largely replaced (I think) with verapamil, a calcium channel blocker and vasodilator. If you run a search using the "search" tab at the top of the main message board page you'll find all the references here to propanolol. So of course get your hopes up. Lord knows you'll have plenty of time to be other than hopeful as life goes on. And you may have hit on something that will tame the beast right off! Best of luck and keep us informed. Blessings. lance

Title: Re: propranolol, aka betachron aka inderal
Post by Bob P on Apr 8th, 2011 at 8:15am
Tried it one cycle.  Didn't do anything for my clusters but did lower my heart rate to 45 beats/min.
Inderal is a beta blocker.

Title: Re: propranolol, aka betachron aka inderal
Post by Bob Johnson on Apr 8th, 2011 at 8:15am
This med is about 30-yrs out of date for use with Cluster. It's an old carry over from migraine treatment. This is the kind of evidence which indicates the need to work with a headache specialist. (Before you see this neuro, ask him/office whether he has experience with complex headache disorders. It's shocking how few neuros have adequate training/experience with these complex issues.)
---
LOCATING HEADACHE SPECIALIST

1. Search the OUCH site (button on left) for a list of recommended M.D.s.

2. Yellow Pages phone book: look for "Headache Clinics" in the M.D. section and look under "neurologist" where some docs will list speciality areas of practice.

3.  Call your hospital/medical center. They often have an office to assist in finding a physician. You may have to ask for the social worker/patient advocate.

4. START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or RegisterEND PRINTPAGE On-line screen to find a physician.

5. START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or RegisterEND PRINTPAGE Look for "Physician Finder" search box. They will send a list of M.D.s for your state.I suggest using this source for several reasons: first, we have read several messages from people who, even seeing neurologists, are unhappy with the quality of care and ATTITUDES they have encountered; second, the clinical director of the Jefferson (Philadelphia) Headache Clinic said, in late 1999, that upwards of 40%+ of U.S. doctors have poor training in treating headache and/or hold attitudes about headache ("hysterical female disorder") which block them from sympathetic and effective work with the patient; third, it's necessary to find a doctor who has experience, skill, and a set of attitudes which give hope of success. This is the best method I know of to find such a physician.

6. START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or RegisterEND PRINTPAGE NEW certification program for "Headache Medicine" by the United Council for Neurologic Subspecialties, an independent, non-profit, professional medical organization.
        Since this is a new program, the initial listing is limited and so it should be checked each time you have an interest in locating a headache doctor.
====
Re. options: see the PDF file, below, for current theapies.
===
And read this excellent introduction:




Cluster headache.
From: START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or RegisterEND PRINTPAGE (Orphanet Journal of Rare Diseases)
[Easy to read; one of the better overview articles I've seen. Suggest printing the full length article--link, line above--if you are serious about keeping a good medical library on the subject.]

Leroux E, Ducros A.

ABSTRACT: Cluster headache (CH) is a primary headache disease characterized by recurrent short-lasting attacks (15 to 180 minutes) of excruciating unilateral periorbital pain accompanied by ipsilateral autonomic signs (lacrimation, nasal congestion, ptosis, miosis, lid edema, redness of the eye). It affects young adults, predominantly males. Prevalence is estimated at 0.5-1.0/1,000. CH has a circannual and circadian periodicity, attacks being clustered (hence the name) in bouts that can occur during specific months of the year. ALCOHOL IS THE ONLY DIETARY TRIGGER OF CH, STRONG ODORS (MAINLY SOLVENTS AND CIGARETTE SMOKE) AND NAPPING MAY ALSO TRIGGER CH ATTACKS. During bouts, attacks may happen at precise hours, especially during the night. During the attacks, patients tend to be restless. CH may be episodic or chronic, depending on the presence of remission periods. CH IS ASSOCIATED WITH TRIGEMINOVASCULAR ACTIVATION AND NEUROENDOCRINE AND VEGETATIVE DISTURBANCES, HOWEVER, THE PRECISE CAUSATIVE MECHANISMS REMAIN UNKNOWN. Involvement of the hypothalamus (a structure regulating endocrine function and sleep-wake rhythms) has been confirmed, explaining, at least in part, the cyclic aspects of CH. The disease is familial in about 10% of cases. Genetic factors play a role in CH susceptibility, and a causative role has been suggested for the hypocretin receptor gene. Diagnosis is clinical. Differential diagnoses include other primary headache diseases such as migraine, paroxysmal hemicrania and SUNCT syndrome. At present, there is no curative treatment. There are efficient treatments to shorten the painful attacks (acute treatments) and to reduce the number of daily attacks (prophylactic treatments). Acute treatment is based on subcutaneous administration of sumatriptan and high-flow oxygen. Verapamil, lithium, methysergide, prednisone, greater occipital nerve blocks and topiramate may be used for prophylaxis. In refractory cases, deep-brain stimulation of the hypothalamus and greater occipital nerve stimulators have been tried in experimental settings.THE DISEASE COURSE OVER A LIFETIME IS UNPREDICTABLE. Some patients have only one period of attacks, while in others the disease evolves from episodic to chronic form.

PMID: 18651939 [PubMed]





http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?action=downloadfile;file=Mgt_of_Cluster_Headache___Amer_Family_Physician.pdf (144 KB | 27 )

Title: Re: propranolol, aka betachron aka inderal
Post by dazza on Apr 8th, 2011 at 3:32pm
Took propranolol for 12months. still got my summer and winter cycles. If anything it may have tamed the kip scale a bit. When sleeping i found my arms would go dead eg:pins&needals, due to the lower blood pressure i guess. Now i take verapamil

Title: Re: propranolol, aka betachron aka inderal
Post by SeansWife on Apr 8th, 2011 at 5:33pm
Sean and I are staying hopeful. I found a Neurologist in our area from the list on this site. Love CH.com!!! Sean has an appt. in May, but we're pretty sure his cycle should be over by then. Definitely still going w/ the diary of headaches and treatments we've tried just to build the relationship for the next cycle. Thanks for the responses! I tried the search w/ no luck, but I am a blond! 

New CH.com Forum » Powered by YaBB 2.4!
YaBB © 2000-2009. All Rights Reserved.