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Message started by KingOfPain on Jun 3rd, 2011 at 1:31pm

Title: It's About Time!
Post by KingOfPain on Jun 3rd, 2011 at 1:31pm
I wish & hope EVERY city institutes this policy, riding the bus or otherwise!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Saggy Pants Banned on Fort Worth Buses
6-1-2011
FORT WORTH, Texas - There’s no law in Fort Worth against wearing saggy baggy pants. But a new code of conduct prohibits sagging on city buses.

Just like the requirement for a shirt and shoes, now those who want to ride The T actually have to wear their pants. It’s not a campaign. It’s The Fort Worth Transportation Authority’s new policy.

The T said if a person refuses to abide by the rule they will be asked leave the loading premises. Otherwise they are considered trespassing.

Many are happy about the change.

“We’re trying to get from point A to point B. We don’t want to see nobody’s drawers or buttocks hanging out,” said Tambala Finkley.

Edward Kotter said he would like to see enforcement expanded.

“I think they’re doing a really good job. Police officers should do more work giving people tickets about it,” he said.

But the two week old rule is catching some resistance.

“He just said if you can’t pull up your pants you can’t get on the bus, so I just got off. I mean, I’m not gonna pull up my pants,” said Jaquiasia Hall.

De’Shawn Miller doesn’t understand the problem with saggy pants.

“This is something we grew up into. That’s why they don’t tell us nothing about sagging. We gonna sag regardless. We ain’t disrespectful. That’s how we were raised,” he said.

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Saggy pants mean no ride on one Texas bus system
Fri Jun 3, 2011
SAN ANTONIO (Reuters) – Don't get on the bus in Ft. Worth, Texas, if you're not properly dressed.

The Ft. Worth Transportation Authority, known as "The T," has implemented a new policy that prohibits any passenger from boarding a bus with "saggy" pants that expose the person's underwear or buttocks.

"Riders don't want to see a person dressed like that on a public bus," Joan Hunter, communications manager for The T, told Reuters on Thursday. "Our customers think it's disrespectful."

The saggy pants look has been around for more than a decade, tracing its roots to prison attire because inmates are not issued belts. It spread to the rap and hip-hop music community, and from there became a popular symbol of freedom and cultural awareness for many young people.

Hunter said the new saggy pants policy is simply an extension of the dress code that The T has had for years, which has long required shirts and shoes.

"A lot of different people ride the bus," she said. "And many of them told us it's not a good idea to have your pants below your buttocks."

So up went signs in city buses, reading "Pull 'em up or find another ride."

Hunter said a Ft. Worth City Council member is looking for a donor to pay for billboards that carry the same message.

She said the decision on whether a potential rider's pants are inappropriate is up to the discretion of the bus driver.

The first day the policy was in place about 50 people were removed for improper pants, Hunter said.

Some passengers have complained that The T is trying to dictate what they can and can't wear, Hunter said, but overall reaction has been positive. She pointed out that many Ft. Worth-area schools have a similar policy.

"Following this rule is actually easier than following any other clothing policy we have," she said.

"All you need to do is pull your pants up before you get onto the bus. You don't have to go home and get a shirt or get a pair of shoes. Then, after you get off the bus, you can dress however you want."

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Title: Re: It's About Time!
Post by Callico on Jun 3rd, 2011 at 5:46pm
I like it!

As with having to undergo groping and other indecencies by the TSA in order to fly a plane it is the price of a privilege.  There is no incumbent right to ride a public bus, hence the dress code is appropriate.

Jerry

Title: Re: It's About Time!
Post by BarbaraD on Jun 4th, 2011 at 10:26am
"We ain't disrespectful. That's how we were raised." 

Well, kiddo - you waz raised WRONG in my opinion. Keep your REAR covered in public - It OFFENDS me.  That's HOW I was raised. A baby's butt is cute - you're's ain't.

I like the new rule... They should put it out for all PUBLIC places..

Oh heck, maybe I'm just getting old, but don't these kids KNOW how silly they look?  ::)

Title: Re: It's About Time!
Post by BobG on Jun 4th, 2011 at 12:50pm
De’Shawn Miller doesn’t understand the problem with saggy pants.

“That’s why they don’t tell us nothing about sagging. We gonna sag regardless. We ain’t disrespectful, ” he said.


Pull up your pants, Butthead! Then go back to sixth grade and learn to speak English.

Title: Re: It's About Time!
Post by Guiseppi on Jun 4th, 2011 at 2:12pm
so whatyou're saying........you're all okay with a government entity, passing a law, telling you how to dress......as long as it only penalizes a small group of  citizens and agrees with you........just saying......

Joe

Title: Re: It's About Time!
Post by Brew on Jun 4th, 2011 at 2:44pm
I think we already have indecency laws on the books.

Besides, I would think law enforcement officers kind of like it when thugs dress with their pants around their knees. They sure can't run as fast.

I'm just sayin'....

Title: Re: It's About Time!
Post by Racer1_NC on Jun 4th, 2011 at 2:51pm
Papers please......

Title: Re: It's About Time!
Post by KingOfPain on Jun 4th, 2011 at 6:10pm
June 13, 2007: Cajun Town Bans Saggy Pants in Bid to Cover Up 'Private Parts'
DELCAMBRE, La. —  Overly saggy britches are obscene, the Delcambre Town Council says. So does Mayor Carol Broussard, who said he will sign an anti-sag ordinance passed unanimously this week.

The new indecent exposure ordinance in this Cajun-country town of about 2,000 carries penalties of up to six months in jail and a $500 fine for being caught in pants that show undergarments or, in the mayor's phrase, "private parts."

"I don't know if it will do any good, but it won't hurt," said Delcambre Councilman Albert Roy, who introduced the ordinance. "It's obvious, and anybody with common sense can see your parts when you wear sagging pants."

The meeting Monday night packed the small trailer that has been Town Hall since Hurricane Rita swept in six feet of storm surge on Sept. 24, 2005.

Low-hanging, baggy pants have become a fashion fad, mostly for young men in the hip-hop culture. Several residents objected that the ordinance targeted blacks.

Broussard denied any racial motivation. "White people wear sagging pants, too. Anybody who wears these pants should be held responsible."

Although Roy, who is black, introduced the ordinance, he said a $500 fine is outrageous: "I think it should be something like $25."

The ordinance states, "It shall be unlawful for any person in any public place or in view of the public to be found in a state of nudity, or partial nudity, or in dress not becoming to his or her sex, or in any indecent exposure of his or her person or undergarments, or be guilty of any indecent or lewd behavior."

The law applies to women as well as men, the mayor said Wednesday. "If you expose some of your privates, the crack of your behind, if somebody feels insulted they should press charges. If you're offended by it, we want to straighten that out."

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August 14, 2007: Louisiana Town Bans Sagging Pants to Avoid Exposing Underwear
MANSFIELD, La. —  Effective Sept. 15, anyone in this northwest Louisiana town caught wearing sagging pants that expose his or her underwear will be subject to a fine up to $150 plus court costs, or face up to 15 days in jail.

Mansfield aldermen Monday voted unanimously and without discussion to enact the law. Mayor Curtis McCoy said he proposed it because he was concerned about the number of individuals who wear pants that expose their underwear. The citizens of Mansfield, he said, should not have to put up with it.

City attorney Richard Z. Johnson Jr. said he researched state statutes and borrowed from a similar law adopted in the south Louisiana town of Delcambre as a guideline in creating Mansfield's ordinance. Several municipalities and parish governments in Louisiana have enacted similar laws in recent months.

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September 4, 2007: Baggy Pants Ban Signed into Law in Louisiana
Communities from Louisiana to Connecticut are proposing legislation to ban sagging pants as part of their public indecency laws. Louisiana Councilman Lindel Toups talks about the ban on public display of undergarments that was passed into state law last month.

Lindel Toups, councilman in Lafourche Parish, Louisiana; legislation that he proposed to ban the public display of undergarments was enacted into law on August 10.

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October 15, 2007: Several U.S. cities snapping over baggy pants
"If we have kids going around wearing pants below their butts, it's not nice, not decent," says Timothy Holmes, a city commissioner in Opa-locka, Fla. "If you ask six of these kids, 'What are your grades?' four will tell you they're making C's, D's and F's. I see how senior citizens respond to these kids. They're afraid."

Opa-locka, a Miami suburb of 15,000 that has struggled to curb violent crime, is the latest municipality to take up sagging pants. Holmes has proposed an ordinance that would ban wearing them in city parks, the library and other municipal buildings. The proposal, which will be voted on Oct. 24, carries no fines or jail time, although violators would be evicted from city property. Holmes says he expects the measure to pass.

Low-slung pants, which droop below the hips and expose underwear and more, are the latest in generations of adolescent fashion statements to rankle adults. Just as miniskirts in the 1960s prompted unsuccessful civic efforts to cover up exposed legs, civil libertarians warn that banning sagging pants will be exceedingly difficult to defend in court.

"Wearing of clothing is absolutely free expression" protected by the First Amendment, says Marjorie Esman, executive director of the Louisiana chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union.

That prospect hasn't deterred officials from Texas to Connecticut from trying to pass new indecency statutes. Among their efforts:

•New bans have been adopted in Hawkinsville, Ga., and six Louisiana cities and parishes, including Shreveport and Alexandria.

•Proposed bans are under consideration in Trenton and Pleasantville, N.J.; Charlotte; Dallas; Baltimore; Atlanta and three other Georgia towns including Rome, Brunswick and Plains; Duncan, Okla.; and Yonkers, N.Y.


•Bans have been rejected in Natchitoches, La.; Stratford, Conn.; and Pine Bluff, Ark.

Penalties range from fines or jail time to warnings. Several towns in Louisiana, including Mansfield, near Shreveport, passed measures in June that include fines of $150 or 15 days in jail. The Dallas city council is considering a non-binding resolution against sagging pants.

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Title: Re: It's About Time!
Post by deltadarlin on Jun 4th, 2011 at 8:32pm
While I don't like sagging pants, they are tacky.  Does that mean we are going to outlaw those whose ass cracks show (even though they aren't sagging?)?  What I would like to see is more employers stepping up to the plate and enforcing their dress codes.   What about cleavage?

I see this all day every day, and the temptation to *pants* someone gets overwhelming some days.  However, I don't care to be charged with sexual harrassment.

Brew,
You are right, police like *pants down low*.  It's damned difficult to run when your pants are halfway down your thighs.  Try to jump a fence with a sagging crotch, ain't gonna happen.

Title: Re: It's About Time!
Post by Racer1_NC on Jun 4th, 2011 at 11:44pm

deltadarlin wrote on Jun 4th, 2011 at 8:32pm:
Try to jump a fence with a sagging crotch, ain't gonna happen.

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Title: Re: It's About Time!
Post by BarbaraD on Jun 5th, 2011 at 8:09am
This is REALLY nothing new... Back in the "old" days (ya know when I was in school) we actually had a dress code too.. "no jeans on 'girls'" - ratted hair was a no-no - they actually used a "ruler" to measure the height of your hairdo; the length of skirts below the KNEE - had to be two INCHES below or ya got sent home to let the hem out...) Yep, and ya know what -- our PARENTS made SURE we FOLLOWED the damn rules... Oh we bitched and moaned and we said they weren't fair, and we tried them, but we followed them (or we got sent home to our parents and learned what punishment really was).

When Buddy was in school they were "trying" to enforce some dress code rules but the parents were raising a stink about it... "My child is an individual and wants to be different". They let the rules slide until there weren't any to enfoce and look where it's led.

No, I don't like the government getting into my business, but I do think we must be a society with RULES and they have to be enforced. Dress codes should be in place in schools and in public. If parents won't do it then maybe the only way to get it done is FOR the government to do it. Maybe this is where WE'VE fallen down on OUR responsiblity.

Sorry, ya'll can condone the buttcracks - I just can't.

Title: Re: It's About Time!
Post by KingOfPain on Jun 5th, 2011 at 3:03pm
Thief Foiled By His Baggy Pants
May 4, 2011

He's the would-be thief who got away with nothing - not even his dignity.

This CCTV footage shows one of the worst escapes ever after a robbery at an E-Z Food Store in Lake Wales, Florida.

The suspect was racing towards his getaway car with a case of beer in his arms when his baggy pants proved his undoing.

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Title: Re: It's About Time!
Post by Charlie on Jun 5th, 2011 at 4:58pm
There's a 1941 local video in my town showing a big segment of the adult and child population just going about their business. It's a good example people showing that self respect and respect for others is a good idea. Everybody did their best, not their worst.

It was a nice thing to see.

Charlie

Title: Re: It's About Time!
Post by Kevin_M on Jun 6th, 2011 at 6:44am
I was in sixth grade class once and looked down and... Oh my God, I forgot to get dressed, I'm in my underwear.  How am I going to get out of here and walk all the way home. 

Oh wait, that was a dream.


Live yer dreams, dudes.

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