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Title: Unusual HA, any advice? Post by tumbler on Jul 11th, 2011 at 7:30am
Hi all,
I've been suffering from headaches for the past 7 years. At first, they presented as typical migraines (pain radiating down the right side of face), but have remained standard for the past 5 years as clusters (or cluster-like, as I'll explain below.) My neuro diagnosed me with CH, as I go through 2-week cycles once or twice a year with classic "alarm clock" wakeups, white-hot localized pain behind my right eye, ptosis (never during major attacks, usually during shadow-headaches in the afternoon. Hubs noticed it and next time I was at the neuro, she noted I exhibited signs of classic Horner's as well as some weakness in my smile on my right side) , and shadows throughout the cycle. I however have never experienced the type of suicidal pain so many of you describe-- I am lucid during attacks, can carry on a conversation, despite intense pain, and prefer to sit calmly rather than pace. The worst is usually the nausea, which also makes me think it is not classic CH. I believe I have some sort of migraine-cluster hybrid, which I guess is not too unusual with the hundreds of types of headaches out there. In the past, a combination of triptans (Treximet, Frova, Relpax) usually worked to successfully abort an attack, and a week of steroids to break my cycle. O2 helps with my nausea but has never aborted an attack. I'm now on week 9 of near-daily attacks, and nothing is working. In fact, I've given up on triptans but for the worst pain to avoid rebounds and am using super strong coffee to abort. I'm starting acupuncture this week to try something completely different, but am wondering if anyone has another suggestion. At this point, 5 weeks over my usual cycle, I am going a bit crazy thinking this is my new normal, and that I will just wake up everyday with searing pain and the knowledge that it will return. Strange how my 2-week cycles, while painful, were almost dependable in way; this new breed is throwing me for a complete loop. Any advice you can offer (especially if you've gone through a shift in your typical cycle) would be incredibly helpful, as I feel pretty lost right now, and my neuro is out of ideas. |
Title: Re: Unusual HA, any advice? Post by wimsey1 on Jul 11th, 2011 at 7:54am
Hey Tumbler, you're going through the wringer, aren't you? I know, just what you wanted to hear. I'm afraid I have more questions and no answers for you at this point. The questions have to do with your descriptions of the pain, your disclaimers, and what you may have used and in what doses. For starters, you said you don't experience the kind of pain we experience but you describe it as white-hot and searing. That sounds pretty intense to me. Have you seen the KIP scale? Just wondering where you fall, typically?
Second, so many tell us they have "tried" O2, or even imitrex, when what they mean is they have used an ineffective delivery of O2 or form of trex. So what are the details of your use of these abortives? Third, what preventatives have you been prescribed, in what doses? Effective treatment of CHs often will not follow with prescriptions given for migraines or other cluster-like symptoms. And lastly, is your neuro a headache specialist? Many neuros are only vaguely familiar with CHs, although they may not have the personal integrity to tell you so. If not, you really need to seek one out. Looking forward to more posts. Blessings. lance |
Title: Re: Unusual HA, any advice? Post by Andy T on Jul 11th, 2011 at 8:03am
Hi Tumbler
Sounds to me like time to get out there and contact a headache specialist. I'm sure many have suffered pattern changes. I had fairly mild bouts twice a year, for several years. Normally one or two kip7/8 attacks per day, for four to six weeks, so I knew what was coming and could still get on with my life. Late last year, it went bolistic. seven or eight attacks per day, invariably at the top of the kip scale. That's when I found these guys and girls, who've been a great help. They helped me towards O2, which has made a big difference to my current episode. I note you say you got no relief through it, but are you using all the right kit and really getting puffing on it? Finally, the triptans, I get that you have rebounds, I've had them myself at times, but if they do a job for you, they are worth sticking with. I'm sure there'll be no end ov much more helpful advice coming your way, so I'll just say all the best for getting PF!! All the very best Andrew |
Title: Re: Unusual HA, any advice? Post by tumbler on Jul 11th, 2011 at 8:19am
Thanks for answering, Andy and Wimsey. Headaches are almost always a 7 on the KIP scale (occasionally an 8.) Which I have learned to just deal with until an abortive kicks in- as I mentioned, the worst is actually the severe nausea that can accompany an attack.
Abortives: I've always taken oral triptans, which are effective within 20 minutes. Since I can pretty much deal with the pain until they start working, I've never felt the need to use injectables. As for O2- I've used an H tank with nonrebreather mask, but reading through the oxygen info I'm seeing that I've definitely been using it on too low an LPM (10 l/m.) Will crank it up tomorrow morning and see if that makes a difference. Preventatives: Usual suspects for migraines haven't worked. Including anti-depressants, migrelief and beta blockers. What preventatives should I be on for CH? As for my neuro, I've never felt the need to seek out another, since my regimen was working. She is not a CH specialist, and if this cycle continues, I may just seek one out. Again, it isn't so much the pain that is getting to me, as it is the seemingly endless length of the cycle, which I would just LOVE to break. |
Title: Re: Unusual HA, any advice? Post by Skyhawk5 on Jul 11th, 2011 at 10:04pm |
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